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Luxemburglandia
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Stuck with religious worship prohibited policy

Postby Luxemburglandia » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:43 pm

So I appear to be stuck with the atheism (religious practice prohibited) policy due to my high secularism, even though I have never prohibited religious worship and would never do so in my country. I even tried picking a pro-religion option in an issue recently, hoping that would get rid of the atheism policy, but no such luck. Can the devs fix this, so that those of us with low rates of religiousness but without prohibited worship aren't stuck looking like we've implemented state atheism?
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Postby Kenmoria » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:49 am

It is a stat-based policy so answering several issues in a pro-religious way will eventually result in the policy being cancelled. It may require a while if the issues fall the wrong way though.
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Postby Luxemburglandia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:09 pm

But that's the thing - I don't want to choose pro-religious options for the most part. I'm very much a secularist - I just don't think religion should be prohibited. This seems a little like the issue where people were getting the "No drugs legal" policy when they actually did have drugs legal. There needs to be a change so those of us with high levels of secularism who still believe in freedom of religion don't look like state atheists.

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Postby Ransium » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:37 pm

You have that policy because at some point you pick a policy that advocated the government promoting atheism in some way. Look for issues that advocate getting the government out of religion entirely.
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Postby Luxemburglandia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:08 pm

The only thing of that nature I can think of is that I selected agnosticism (that our government doesn't have any official stance on religion) in response to the question of my national religion. Could it be a problem with the national religion issue? Because state atheism should not be a result of choosing that option - there's a different option for that, if memory serves me correctly.

Additionally, I did in fact pick a pro-religion option recently in hopes of getting rid of state atheism. In the drought issue I chose to have my people do rain dances or pray or something like that (which I hated doing because I'm a secularist, but w/e), but it still didn't get rid of the "Atheism" policy.
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Postby Jabberwocky » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:47 pm

Lux, however you decide to resolve an issue, your citizens tend to go to extremes when enacting legislation and putting those laws I to effect. The results are often unpredictable, sometimes hilarious, sometimes frustrating because it's sure not what you intended. However, the issue will likely turn up again at some point, maybe in a modified form.
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Postby Ransium » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:09 am

If your asking about an option like this one in 70:

“Put to death? Is this really the type of person you want to listen to?” says Ming Keating. “Every day I thank God that I’m an agnostic and don’t need to believe this nonsense. Religion shouldn’t have anything to do with our government.”


That is exactly the sort of option you should be selecting to get the result you want.

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Postby New Collatis » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:02 pm

I’ve experienced the exact same problem as the OP. I suddenly have the “Atheism: Religious worship is prohibited” policy, despite never having banned religion. In fact, I don’t believe I’ve ever received an issue in which an option could result in the “Atheism” policy on this nation. In looking at this page, which goes back 100 days (this nation was founded 117 days ago), there is no record whatsoever of me ever receiving a notification (a notification is always received when a new policy is triggered) saying “You installed a new national policy: Atheism”, and I’m quite certain that this policy was not present when I last logged on before today, which was about 30 days ago.

This appears to be the result of a glitch in the game. Is there any way of rectifying it?

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Postby Luxemburglandia » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:30 am

No, I'm referring to the national religion special edition issue. I chose the option that my government has no official stance on religion, which shouldn't result in the atheism policy.

I think I'm in a similar situation to you, as I don't ever remember getting a notification saying that I had adopted atheism. It just appeared, but AFAIK I still have it.

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Postby Luxemburglandia » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:07 pm

Is there any way I could make a bug report to the developers, or otherwise contact them so that they can fix this bug?

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Postby He Qixin 2 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:09 pm

Just put a "Bug:" in front of the title of this thread.
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Postby Biancavilla » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:11 pm

I have the same issue with two of my puppets. They were decently religious before (above world average for sure) and the issue choices I picked that gave me the atheism policy did not even ban religion outright so I shouldn't even have that policy (I double-checked) and now they both seem to be stuck with it.
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Postby Ransium » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:25 pm

It’s not a bug. We changed the stats criteria needed for the ‘religious worship prohibited’ policy. I agree we probably should change it again. In the mean time, pick options that make there be absolute religious freedom if you really want to get rid of it.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:28 pm

He Qixin 2 wrote:Just put a "Bug:" in front of the title of this thread.

Please don't ever give this advice again. If it's legitimately a bug, mods and admins read this forum daily and will see it. If it's not a bug (and it hardly ever is), you're just making more pointless work for us.

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Postby He Qixin 2 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:38 pm

ok, i didnt know this was not a bug
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Postby Ransium » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:03 pm

Pro tip: if the issue mod has posted twice in a thread already trying to explain what’s going on it’s not a bug.

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Postby Ransium » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:23 pm

The stats criteria for religious worship prohibited has been changed again.

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Postby Luxemburglandia » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:16 pm

Thanks Ransium. My problem is solved.


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