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Postby Spainish country » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:16 am

I want to know how the list of ranking is created
I have economy 100 yet i am ranked 9650

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Postby Ransium » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:58 pm

Moved to technical.

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Postby Merconitonitopia » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:52 pm

then 9,632 are above you
the underlying numbers for economy increase indefinitely, but this is not expressed past 100.

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Postby Alanis Star » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:17 pm

Merconitonitopia wrote:then 9,632 are above you
the underlying numbers for economy increase indefinitely, but this is not expressed past 100.


Wait, so Economy can go beyond 100? I'm genuinely curious at this point.

My thought for now is that Economy is capped at 100, and at this point, your Economic Output will grow at a constant rate. I am aware that Civil Rights and Political Freedom can only go up to 100, so... maybe there's an A-Z order or something else when there are multiple nations with the same value?
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Postby Merconitonitopia » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:44 am

Well, now that you put it like that, I am not too certain.

I am fairly certain that is how it worked in the past. This was why all of the very economy-heavy nations such as the Grendels a few years ago consistently topped the rankings for econ. Although today it seems only possible that some readjustment has been done, as this is not the case when you search for the top in economy.

That said, I do know economic output does not increase linearly once 100 is hit. Example: Undivulged Principles. This is because economic output is obviously income*population (dictated both by common sense, and because on a nation's trend, economic output and average income are identical in trend.)

This is because, less-than-dictated by common sense, income and economy do not seem directly related whatsoever! -- or at least, not as one would imagine they would be. Consider Kindjal: an economy of only 16 (exceptionally low these days! bottom 6%) and, yet, an average income in an excess of 200k -- top 3%.

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Postby Alanis Star » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:16 am

Merconitonitopia wrote:Well, now that you put it like that, I am not too certain.

I am fairly certain that is how it worked in the past. This was why all of the very economy-heavy nations such as the Grendels a few years ago consistently topped the rankings for econ. Although today it seems only possible that some readjustment has been done, as this is not the case when you search for the top in economy.

That said, I do know economic output does not increase linearly once 100 is hit. Example: Undivulged Principles. This is because economic output is obviously income*population (dictated both by common sense, and because on a nation's trend, economic output and average income are identical in trend.)

This is because, less-than-dictated by common sense, income and economy do not seem directly related whatsoever! -- or at least, not as one would imagine they would be. Consider Kindjal: an economy of only 16 (exceptionally low these days! bottom 6%) and, yet, an average income in an excess of 200k -- top 3%.


Ahh, I see, I see. For me, I find Kindjal's economic output to be rather interesting. It fluctuates quite a lot, so... I guess that's attributed to the weak economy? A weak economy that can shift its output anywhere anytime.

But this doesn't seem to explain mine that well. You can check it out here! Seems to be population, plus a couple of factors. A large drop in Economy, only affects Economic Output to a small degree.
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Postby Merconitonitopia » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:11 pm

That is because net GDP increases regardless as does population at a steady rate. A change in income (GDP/cap) will always result in an exactly proportional change in net output, although will obviously appear less dramatic.
Although when income fluctuates a lot then output will fluctuate much also.

Using Kindjal as an example again because they have a very clear fluctuation in income trend
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=kin ... ensusid=72
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=kin ... ensusid=76

output is always income*pop


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