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USS Monitor
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:10 am

I prefer leaving it alone if it already ends in "s."
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:16 am

[violet] wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Has it been tested on 'goldilocks' yet?

Yes, in the post two above yours.

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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:47 pm

In general, I'm seeing the new one as an improvement.

I think any parser is going to struggle with loan words. I wouldn't expect to see octopodes, colossi and haiku as plurals unless they supplied a pretty huge list of exceptions. Does either of them get sheep and geese right?

I know that plurals crop up in other contexts, but for the currency would it be possible to allow players to select both forms, similar to the demonyms?
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Postby [violet] » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:12 pm

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:I think any parser is going to struggle with loan words. I wouldn't expect to see octopodes, colossi and haiku as plurals unless they supplied a pretty huge list of exceptions. Does either of them get sheep and geese right?

Both of them do have a long list of exceptions. They're good for practically all English words, including all the ones you mention. The issue is made-up words that we think should be pluralized differently, like "lats" from the OP, which the current parser pluralizes as "latss."

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:I know that plurals crop up in other contexts, but for the currency would it be possible to allow players to select both forms, similar to the demonyms?

I'm not looking to add that as this time, no.
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Postby Trotterdam » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:43 pm

USS Monitor wrote:I prefer leaving it alone if it already ends in "s."
Annnd I guess that was inevitable.

I doubt we're going to be able to make everyone happy without having a custom currency plural field like we have for demonyms.

My opinion is on the record, as are several other people's. (Though I don't recall Bears Armed actually saying what the plural of "goldilocks" is supposed to be...)

I can at least say that pluralizing "xxxs" as "xxxs", while not my preferred approach, is at least arguably correct, whereas pluralizing "xxxs" as "xxxss" is unambiguously wrong.

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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:23 am

Trotterdam wrote:(Though I don't recall Bears Armed actually saying what the plural of "goldilocks" is supposed to be...)

To be honest, apart from being sure that it isn't "goldilockss", I haven't completely made up my mind on that point. I suspect that different regional dialects of Urso-English might disagree with each other on the matter... "goldilocks", with just the one 's' that the singular form already has, will do well enough.
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Postby [violet] » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:59 pm

I decided to stick with the current parser because it presents less of a maintenance hassle, and try to work around its failings. As a result, words like "lats" and "waltz" should now be pluralized less strangely.

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