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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:21 pm

After looking through a lot of the update problems, the different timezones and how many of them don't like the update time, and the general awkwardness of the update period, I propose that we have a 24/7 Continuous Update. In other words, this would be an update that takes exactly 24 hours and starts over again after it has undergone 24 hours.

This would solve the following problems:
  • Update Period: Players from all timezones would be able to participate in R/D Gameplay conveniently, albeit with a smaller range of regions to invade at their most convenient times. This would vastly increase the accessibility of R/D as it would put all timezones at an equal footing, thus increasing audiences from timezones whose players may like R/D but are deterred from it due to the Update period.
  • Update Length: The length of the update wouldn't matter anymore, as it would go around the clock. Sure, there will always be those regions that wouldn't be convenient for reach timezone, but in making the update 24/7, every timezone would have the same costs and benefits - there are always hundreds of regions to R/D on.
  • Level Playing Field: Because the update time for every region would be lengthened vastly, defenders would be more able to anticipate the region that a group of invaders/raiders would most likely to strike and be able to attack more easily, which would probably even out the playing field for a 50/50 possibility of victory for both sides.
  • Conveniency: Simply put, R/D could happen all day and it would be the closest possible thing to a war feature, as one could R/D their choice of regions that are updating while they're on the site any time they want.

Problems:
  • Mild Inconveniency: Most obviously, some regions would update at the most inconvenient times, such as very early morning. However, the range of regions updating during those inconvenient times is most likely to be very low, and additionally, there are a vast number of regions that could be attacked at other more convenient times for that player.
  • Coding: This could take some time to code.
  • Start of 24/7 Update: If this was started, the Update would start at 12:00 AM EST and end on the same day, 11:59 PM EST, starting over again the next day. This may be a problem, as changing directly from a short update period to a 24/7 Continuous Update may be problematic.

What do you think?

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:26 pm

No as you said coding something like this would be a pain and the mods, and violet really got their hands full and writing something like this would take their time away from actually moderating.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:34 pm

I'm not actually sure how feasible that is, not from a coding standpoint, but from a "how much abuse can the server hamsters take?" standpoint. Update to my understanding does put a decent amount of additional load on the servers, and spreading update out across 24 hours doesn't necessarily mean "less load over a longer period," but rather "higher load than normal over a much longer period." Maybe if we had a database system for nation data, but we don't. (Something [violet] undoubtedly curses 2002 Max for to this day.)

Keep in mind I'm not a techie though; someone with more technical how-servers-function savvy can probably elaborate far better.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:40 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:(Something [violet] undoubtedly curses 2002 Max for to this day.)


[V] is not max confirmed.

In seriousness, I can't imagine many on either side of R/D wanting this for their purposes.
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Postby Socio Polor » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:55 pm

I'm gonna gonna go straight ahead and give this a no. Not only would this be a pain in the butt for the admins to manage and straighten out, they're also a lot of non-technical problems this may cause, especially for the R/D players of the site.

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Postby Traditionalist Union » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:01 pm

Don't forget about update raiders who would have a field day with this imagine "some men don't want to live or play, they just want to watch the world burn"

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:12 pm

Socio Polor wrote:I'm gonna gonna go straight ahead and give this a no.

You are not a moderator, nor are you one of the site admins with the technical know-how to be issuing an authoritative statement like this anywhere in Technical or Moderation. Do not presume to speak in a manner that could be confused as an official-sounding statement. You are not and will not be in a position to know the behind-the-scenes information necessary to make such commentary.

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Postby Socio Polor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:28 am

Reploid Productions wrote:
Socio Polor wrote:I'm gonna gonna go straight ahead and give this a no.

You are not a moderator, nor are you one of the site admins with the technical know-how to be issuing an authoritative statement like this anywhere in Technical or Moderation. Do not presume to speak in a manner that could be confused as an official-sounding statement. You are not and will not be in a position to know the behind-the-scenes information necessary to make such commentary.

Apologies if the wording and tone of the response to this idea appears authoritative to you. But, I must inform you Reppy that I did not in any way attended my post to be an authoritative statement. It wasn't a "No this feature will never be implemented because I say so!" it was more a "No, this isn't a good idea" type of response. Again, apologies if my post came out that way.

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Postby New Dukaine » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:10 am

Hell no. This would ruin R/D. I would rather have just that set period.
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