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Postby Unibot » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:32 pm

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Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Unibot wrote:Yeah I'm still a little sore about that, 'cause the scales make no sense.. the General Assembly doesn't have an international court (they voted it down).

Not to sound ungrateful or anything, but I really have to agree here. The books made a lot more sense (and if you read Res. #1, had a lot more meaning), if they could be made to work.

If the sword thing is final, would crossed swords work better, or would that be a little too "Gatevillian" for some? ;)


Again, not to sound ungrateful or anything, because the split floor looks amazing ...

I find the swords kind of odd as well, we don't have an army. I kind of think that would be awesome if we did, and the SC regulated it, but we don't. Our duty, "Spreading interregional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary", implies compliance as the force that is necessary, not war.


I think I would be the perfect choice to be given complete command over a Security Council army, nothing could possibly go wrong.


I would hope it would be democratic, but obviously someone would need to commend me for founding it. :p

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Postby Dysian » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:40 pm

Unibot wrote:I find the swords kind of odd as well, we don't have an army.

clearly, this is the refference
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I do see however, why the scales were chosen for the GA, and not the SC. The SC doesn't level the playing field - it is, in fact, a sword put by the game code in the hand of one of the sides, since that side can't find it's own weapon to fight with.
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Postby Unibot » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:42 pm

Dysian wrote:
Unibot wrote:I find the swords kind of odd as well, we don't have an army.

clearly, this is the refference
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I do see however, why the scales were chosen for the GA, and not the SC. The SC doesn't level the playing field - it is, in fact, a sword put by the game code in the hand of one of the sides, since that side can't find it's own weapon to fight with.


I see...

An eye for an eye would leave the whole world blind. Luckily, Justice is blind.

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Postby Cobdenia » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:48 pm

I think the sword is just a reference to "Security". Whilst not wishing to decry the fantastic effort put in by the admin team, I think a cheesegrater would have been better.
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Postby Unibot » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:53 pm

Cobdenia wrote:I think the sword is just a reference to "Security". Whilst not wishing to decry the fantastic effort put in by the admin team, I think a cheesegrater would have been better.


>:(

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Postby Euroslavia » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:54 pm

Looks very awesome. :)
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Postby Inchland » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:59 pm

Very well done, Looks bloody brilliant, great job :lol:
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Postby Cobdenia » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:08 pm

Unibot wrote:
Cobdenia wrote:I think the sword is just a reference to "Security". Whilst not wishing to decry the fantastic effort put in by the admin team, I think a cheesegrater would have been better.


>:(


What do you have against cheesegraters? :p
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Postby Unibot » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:10 pm

Cobdenia wrote:
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Cobdenia wrote:I think the sword is just a reference to "Security". Whilst not wishing to decry the fantastic effort put in by the admin team, I think a cheesegrater would have been better.


>:(


What do you have against cheesegraters? :p


I hurt my hand with one, when I was five. It was a Thursday. :p

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:24 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Not to sound ungrateful or anything, but I really have to agree here. The books made a lot more sense (and if you read Res. #1, had a lot more meaning), if they could be made to work.

I'm assuming [violet] chose the scales because they're more crisp than the books (they're kind of blurry :( ). Also, you see that blind justice lady on more emblems than a set of books. :\

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:27 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Not to sound ungrateful or anything, but I really have to agree here. The books made a lot more sense (and if you read Res. #1, had a lot more meaning), if they could be made to work.

I'm assuming [violet] chose the scales because they're more crisp than the books (they're kind of blurry :( ). Also, you see that blind justice lady on more emblems than a set of books. :\

France's Marianne comes into my mind, and in my opinion having some interpretation of a justice lady may be better. Any thoughts?

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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:16 pm

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Not to sound ungrateful or anything, but I really have to agree here. The books made a lot more sense (and if you read Res. #1, had a lot more meaning), if they could be made to work.

I'm assuming [violet] chose the scales because they're more crisp than the books (they're kind of blurry :( ). Also, you see that blind justice lady on more emblems than a set of books. :\

France's Marianne comes into my mind, and in my opinion having some interpretation of a justice lady may be better. Any thoughts?


I was just thinking about a wireform globe, with stars arrange around it would do the General Assembly justice, more so than a set of scales... its not the most original idea, but its just, the General Assembly has little to do with justice. As its motto says, its about "improving the world one resolution at a time".

That being said, I think I can get use to it, and I'm so excited the floors are split (and it looks great!) that the flags, however non-representative of their assemblies, are not crucial at this point.

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Postby [violet] » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:24 pm

Unibot wrote:Yeah I'm still a little sore about that, 'cause the scales make no sense.

Sorry about that! As I mentioned (somewhere), I'm happy for people to propose replacements. We could even drag out the old Bookkeeping resolution and put it to a WA vote. But start with a completed image and some support on the relevant forum.

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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:29 pm

[violet] wrote:
Unibot wrote:Yeah I'm still a little sore about that, 'cause the scales make no sense.

We could even drag out the old Bookkeeping resolution


And leave it for good..... ? :)

Thanks for all the work, by the way, I don't want you to think I don't appreciate all of it, its incredible!! I can't wait for a SC resolution to get up to vote, and test this baby out!

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Postby [violet] » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:30 pm

Mousebumples wrote:Is a News Item regarding this change forthcoming?

Yes, it's just that sometimes it's good to make absolutely sure everything's working before you announce it. :)

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Postby Topid » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:37 pm

YAY! Before my GA res came up to vote, that makes it even better!!!

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Postby Cobdenia » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:42 pm

I have a few ideas (serious ones, I mean, no cheesegraters, nor Bernard Manning putting a halibut in a tumble dryer or anything like that) for things that might work well, though I lack any skill whatsoever in any programme other then MSPaint. I don't think we can use the wireform globe due to the ol' UN problem, and the weird way the NS World is.
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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:48 pm

Cobdenia wrote:I have a few ideas (serious ones, I mean, no cheesegraters, nor Bernard Manning putting a halibut in a tumble dryer or anything like that) for things that might work well, though I lack any skill whatsoever in any programme other then MSPaint. I don't think we can use the wireform globe due to the ol' UN problem, and the weird way the NS World is.


Dah. If you'd spell it out, I could give it a try if you like.

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Postby Cobdenia » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:56 pm

Keeping the current backings, which I think work well, and replacing the scales with a dove of peace perhaps would work quite well. Or a ring of people of various hues holding hands (none of the hues actually bearing any resemblence to human skin pigmentation, otherwise we'll miss out one groups and someone will get angry - so orange, purple, chartreuse, khaki type colours), though that might be rather pukeworthy.

For SC, a broken sword (a symbol of commendation and degredation) and a sprig of laurel (is that the word - you know what I mean...not a reef, but sort of half of one) crossed

Alternatively, stylised initials work be safe. Perhaps overlayed in the manner of the old SNCF logo
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:14 pm

[violet] wrote:We could even drag out the old Bookkeeping resolution and put it to a WA vote.

Vote on just a flag design, or on the entire reformatting of the WA?

Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:And leave it for good..... ? :)

Please no. Introducing new categories without any rules or guidelines for their use is exactly what created this mess.
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Postby Unibot » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:30 pm

Cobdenia wrote:Keeping the current backings, which I think work well, and replacing the scales with a dove of peace perhaps would work quite well. Or a ring of people of various hues holding hands (none of the hues actually bearing any resemblence to human skin pigmentation, otherwise we'll miss out one groups and someone will get angry - so orange, purple, chartreuse, khaki type colours), though that might be rather pukeworthy.

For SC, a broken sword (a symbol of commendation and degredation) and a sprig of laurel (is that the word - you know what I mean...not a reef, but sort of half of one) crossed

Alternatively, stylised initials work be safe. Perhaps overlayed in the manner of the old SNCF logo


The ring of people sounds pukeworthy, and the dove sounds a little Christian but...

While just playing around with my SC background (violet's copy is much purdier with those vivid colors), I had an artist's epiphany when I realized that two stylized doves beside each other looks like the WA symbol...

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And using a clearer image of a dove...

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Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:And leave it for good..... ? :)

Please no. Introducing new categories without any rules or guidelines for their use is exactly what created this mess.


*smiles innocently*

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Postby Cobdenia » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:35 pm

I get what you mean about the Christian thing - the two doves looks okay, but I think it needs to be worked on to be more obviously doves.

Incidentally, I did do a google search for "symbol of co-operation" and the first results claimed that Turbines were the symbol of co-operation. I think, on balance, we should ignore that

The other option is to look into the GA's history and beginnings. And have a really quite large hippo
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Postby Unibot » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:49 pm

Cobdenia wrote:I get what you mean about the Christian thing - the two doves looks okay, but I think it needs to be worked on to be more obviously doves.


Hhm.. I kind of liked the abstractness of the doves, it takes a bit for the eye to decipher the intertwined doves in the symbol. I'm interested in adding a metallic texture to them.

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Postby Cobdenia » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:54 pm

Unibot wrote:
Cobdenia wrote:I get what you mean about the Christian thing - the two doves looks okay, but I think it needs to be worked on to be more obviously doves.


Hhm.. I kind of liked the abstractness of the doves, it takes a bit for the eye to decipher the intertwined doves in the symbol. I'm interested in adding a metallic texture to them.


Perhaps; metalicisation would also work. As long as the outlines remain clear it should work
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:14 pm

To be honest, I would prefer the wireframe globe idea. The UN has no rights over the shape. Of course, we shouldn't put any continents on it; maybe use this shape.

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