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The Process of Refounding

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Fit battion
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Postby Fit battion » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:15 am

Oh my Days wrote:For a start, founderless regions are good! If we get rid of yet more of them, the remaining ones will be invaded much more often, which isn't good for them and isn't good for military gameplay either.

However, if you really did want to help n00bs refound, wouldn't it be a lot easier just to post a link to a guide in the FAQ? This would require absolutely no coding. If an automatic way was brought about, almost every middle and large region would refound and that really would kill raiding. Unless you have enough people to invade a feeder, you would be forced to stick to dead regions that no-one cares about.


So you think think it's better that these large & medium regions can have their regions turned upside down by raiders coming in, passwording the region and ejecting nations, than be able to solve a problem? I suppose I should have expected that more raiders would show up in this thread.
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Kalibarr
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Postby Kalibarr » Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:04 pm

Fit battion wrote:
Oh my Days wrote:For a start, founderless regions are good! If we get rid of yet more of them, the remaining ones will be invaded much more often, which isn't good for them and isn't good for military gameplay either.

However, if you really did want to help n00bs refound, wouldn't it be a lot easier just to post a link to a guide in the FAQ? This would require absolutely no coding. If an automatic way was brought about, almost every middle and large region would refound and that really would kill raiding. Unless you have enough people to invade a feeder, you would be forced to stick to dead regions that no-one cares about.


So you think think it's better that these large & medium regions can have their regions turned upside down by raiders coming in, passwording the region and ejecting nations, than be able to solve a problem? I suppose I should have expected that more raiders would show up in this thread.


I see liberations aren't enough for you folks...

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Fit battion
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Postby Fit battion » Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:32 pm

Kalibarr wrote:
Fit battion wrote:
Oh my Days wrote:For a start, founderless regions are good! If we get rid of yet more of them, the remaining ones will be invaded much more often, which isn't good for them and isn't good for military gameplay either.

However, if you really did want to help n00bs refound, wouldn't it be a lot easier just to post a link to a guide in the FAQ? This would require absolutely no coding. If an automatic way was brought about, almost every middle and large region would refound and that really would kill raiding. Unless you have enough people to invade a feeder, you would be forced to stick to dead regions that no-one cares about.


So you think think it's better that these large & medium regions can have their regions turned upside down by raiders coming in, passwording the region and ejecting nations, than be able to solve a problem? I suppose I should have expected that more raiders would show up in this thread.


I see liberations aren't enough for you folks...


I just believe that if regions are active enough to organise refoundings then they should be able to do it without the risk of their region being overrun.
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Oh my Days
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Postby Oh my Days » Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:33 am

Fit battion wrote:
Oh my Days wrote:For a start, founderless regions are good! If we get rid of yet more of them, the remaining ones will be invaded much more often, which isn't good for them and isn't good for military gameplay either.

However, if you really did want to help n00bs refound, wouldn't it be a lot easier just to post a link to a guide in the FAQ? This would require absolutely no coding. If an automatic way was brought about, almost every middle and large region would refound and that really would kill raiding. Unless you have enough people to invade a feeder, you would be forced to stick to dead regions that no-one cares about.


So you think think it's better that these large & medium regions can have their regions turned upside down by raiders coming in, passwording the region and ejecting nations, than be able to solve a problem? I suppose I should have expected that more raiders would show up in this thread.


Yes. As a matter of fact, I do. You have the small risk as a large region that someone might invade you, but they would never, ever be able to destroy the region, influence and Liberations have ensured that. The alternative is getting rid of the whole gameplay side of the game.

Those regions still can refound, but only if they put the effort in. That is fair as well, regions can secure themselves if they really want to.
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Topid
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Postby Topid » Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:55 pm

All of the proposals I've seen, I think would remove almost all founderless regions from the game, and that doesn't sound like a good idea to me. I think it should be made harder to do than currently proposed, or require a certain amount of time as a founderless region before it can be 'refounded' by this method (as opposed to the current method which could be done at any time).
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Naivetry
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Postby Naivetry » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:36 am

I'm not such a fan of the idea of changes to the current refounding system, to start out with, since Founders have the option of passing on their nation if they're intending to leave the game, and because I think there ought to be an initial risk involved in securing complete safety for your region. :P

If there were an automated system of the sort Uni proposed, I would say it should be self-nominating for the Delegate only. And forgetting all of the other requirements, just make the "Refound" button a button that would start a timer barring Delegate access to Regional Controls... say, for 28 days (or a shorter period of time like 2 weeks). You could cancel the Refound at any time and regain access to Regional Controls, but you'd have to have it selected for X days continuously in order for the Refound to take.

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JURISDICTIONS
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Postby JURISDICTIONS » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:09 pm

The current refounding system is fine...

There is not enough absolutely here to show that the administrators must code this into the game.

Like it was noted above... If regions really want to secure a region...they must do it themselves... there should never be a point of this game where every single action of a player or region must have some super humongous shortcut!

The raiding aspect part of this game is like "Life" nothing about it is going to change.

Just because there might be terrorists in my nation....I don't get a button that says "Behold. All terrorists are gone."
You can call me "Juris" for short. Also, you don't have to type my nation name in all caps either.
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