[idea] WA Secretary General

[Thomas Branson III]

What if there was a WA secretary General? Proposals could still be approved via the current process, but the SG could be an elected official with the ability to approve WA proposals without having to meet the required delegate approvals. This not only would fix the downtime between WA votes, it would add game play due to the need for regular SG elections. I know It would require extra codding but I'm sure that many players would chip in to pay for the codding cost.

[Reploid Productions]

No. Such an idea puts too much power in a single player. Such an election would be easily manipulated by puppets, and turn invariably into a popularity contest, shutting out everyone but a few big-name players from being able to get that power. Such changes unbalance the system and require extensive coding that would benefit one player (or a small group of them) at the expense of everyone else.

The techies' time is better spent on things that will benefit as many people as possible without unbalancing the entire thing.

Captain Buzzkill, AWAAAAAAAAAAY! *runs off*

[Ovybia]

So this idea was actually thought up by a player. Interesting...

Although I am not voting for you, you still deserve credit for this Thomas.

[Kaboomlandia]

So this idea was actually thought up by a player. Interesting...

Although I am not voting for you, you still deserve credit for this Thomas.

It's an April Fools' joke.

[Bitely]

Seems like Max could at least credit him.

[Lockdownn]

Seems like Max could at least credit him.

For what? A basic idea that was most likely well known?

[Luna Amore]

Seems like Max could at least credit him.

You mean credit you. You are the OP of this thread, correct? Or do I need to whack him for impersonation with his signature?

As I already pointed out this idea has been brought up before and is not a unique title.

[Thomas Branson III]

I'm not saying NS can't use my idea, in fact, I'm glad they did. Hopefully, they keep the position even though it's an April fools joke and give the WASG some powers such as I stated in this thread.

[Kaboomlandia]

I'm not saying NS can't use my idea, in fact, I'm glad they did. Hopefully, they keep the position even though it's an April fools joke and give the WASG some powers such as I stated in this thread.

Go back and read Reppy's post in this thread.

[United States of Natan]

We should have one. Perhaps a new one could be elected every week. They wouldn't get much power, of course.

[Thomas Branson III]

We should have one. Perhaps a new one could be elected every week. They wouldn't get much power, of course.

Agree. Like I stated in the OP:"the ability to approve WA proposals without having to meet the required delegate approvals."

[United States of Natan]

We should have one. Perhaps a new one could be elected every week. They wouldn't get much power, of course.

Agree. Like I stated in the OP:"the ability to approve WA proposals without having to meet the required delegate approvals."

No, I disagree with that. That's too much power.

[Thomas Branson III]

Agree. Like I stated in the OP:"the ability to approve WA proposals without having to meet the required delegate approvals."

No, I disagree with that. That's too much power.

I'm talking about approving proposals to go to the floor. Currently, you need over 100 delegates to approve a proposal before it becomes a resolution and goes to the floor for a the WA to vote FOR or AGAINST.
What I'm suggesting is that the WASG have the power to send proposals to quorum.

[United States of Natan]

No, I disagree with that. That's too much power.

I'm talking about approving proposals to go to the floor. Currently, you need over 100 delegates to approve a proposal before it becomes a resolution and goes to the floor for a the WA to vote FOR or AGAINST.
What I'm suggesting is that the WASG have the power to send proposals to quorum.

I understood what you said.

[Raxion]

More Reasons/Possible Solutions:

No. Such an idea puts too much power in a single player.

There's already a lot of power in delegates with a bunch of endorsements. Presumably this is like a delegate with many?

EDIT: Or it could be a purely honorary role, like a badge on the winner Nation's page (such as those condemned and commended) all while giving a voice to the WA depending on how they ran their campaign and what issues they focused on.

Such an election would be easily manipulated by puppets,

Make it WA members only.

and turn invariably into a popularity contest, shutting out everyone but a few big-name players from being able to get that power.

All elections are already popularity contests, and moreover, the influential of NS change very quickly as time goes on, being a site on the internet instead of RL politics.

Such changes unbalance the system and require extensive coding

It's been coded for April Fool's day today, now, so this point isn't relevant anymore.

that would benefit one player (or a small group of them) at the expense of everyone else.

The OP has already pointed out how this would benefit everyone, plus since they're democratically elected the Secretary represents all the people who voted them and so it means it's not at the EXPENSE of everyone else but at their MANDATE.

I would say "let's give an election a try at least" but that's already happening.

[Thomas Branson III]

More Reasons/Possible Solutions:

No. Such an idea puts too much power in a single player.

There's already a lot of power in delegates with a bunch of endorsements. Presumably this is like a delegate with many?

EDIT: Or it could be a purely honorary role, like a badge on the winner Nation's page (such as those condemned and commended) all while giving a voice to the WA depending on how they ran their campaign and what issues they focused on.

Such an election would be easily manipulated by puppets,

Make it WA members only.

and turn invariably into a popularity contest, shutting out everyone but a few big-name players from being able to get that power.

All elections are already popularity contests, and moreover, the influential of NS change very quickly as time goes on, being a site on the internet instead of RL politics.

Such changes unbalance the system and require extensive coding

It's been coded for April Fool's day today, now, so this point isn't relevant anymore.

that would benefit one player (or a small group of them) at the expense of everyone else.

The OP has already pointed out how this would benefit everyone, plus since they're democratically elected the Secretary represents all the people who voted them and so it means it's not at the EXPENSE of everyone else but at their MANDATE.

I would say "let's give an election a try at least" but that's already happening.

Totally agree with your post.

[Phydios]

Such changes unbalance the system and require extensive coding

It's been coded for April Fool's day today, now, so this point isn't relevant anymore.

Not true. What we have is a mock election for S-G, not a fully functioning position as you suggest. For all we know, the whole project disappears into thin air at the end of the election, perhaps with some archival data remaining. That would certainly be easier than adding an S-G position to the game.

[Bitely]

It's been coded for April Fool's day today, now, so this point isn't relevant anymore.

Not true. What we have is a mock election for S-G, not a fully functioning position as you suggest. For all we know, the whole project disappears into thin air at the end of the election, perhaps with some archival data remaining. That would certainly be easier than adding an S-G position to the game.

If they were able to code all this just for a temporary April fools joke; then I don't see how adding it to the actual gameplay would be that much more work.

[Reploid Productions]

If they were able to code all this just for a temporary April fools joke; then I don't see how adding it to the actual gameplay would be that much more work.

That's because, as has been pointed out to you multiple times in the past, you have no actual understanding or grasp of how the game is coded.

What we have with the April Fools' election is nothing remotely close to a completed, nevermind functional office. We have a glorified poll. This is not a functional, debugged, and game-balanced player office with set powers. It is a simple (and as evidenced by earlier today, still buggy as hell) system that lists candidates and records votes. You are trying to claim a slapdash polling tool is somehow equivalent to a fully functional player office like a WA delegate. It is not, and your ongoing attempts to somehow claim some great influence over and deep understanding of the site has grown more than tiresome.


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