New World Census Rankings (and other big update things)

[Trotterdam]

So... it used to be that, in the census listings, your own nation is listed in bold, making it easy to pick out. Why was this changed?

It wasn't. What are you seeing?

I had another look. The problem is specific to the Antiquity theme.

Apparently, the other themes (Century, Conservative/Liberal, etc.) are layered on top of a shared "base" stylesheet, with the theme's own stylesheet only describing the theme's differences from this base, but Antiquity does not use this base stylesheet and defines everything from scratch. The tr.thisisme rule was moved to the base stylesheet rather than the sheets for individual themes, so Antiquity is missing out.

[[violet]]

^ Thanks, added to Antiquity.

[Minoa]

When I visit another nation's page in Antiquity theme, I get a error message above the trophies, such as "System Error (eval) at Wed Mar 16 06:50:48 2016."

[Trotterdam]

When I visit another nation's page in Antiquity theme, I get a error message above the trophies, such as "System Error (eval) at Wed Mar 16 06:50:48 2016."

I've been using Antiquity all along and have never seen this problem. Are you sure it wasn't a temporary error?

[Leppikania]

Can the link to the analysis page be readded? That's actually a really useful page.

[[violet]]

When I visit another nation's page in Antiquity theme, I get a error message above the trophies, such as "System Error (eval) at Wed Mar 16 06:50:48 2016."

I see it in the logs. Which nation were you viewing?

[Minoa]

When I visit another nation's page in Antiquity theme, I get a error message above the trophies, such as "System Error (eval) at Wed Mar 16 06:50:48 2016."

I see it in the logs. Which nation were you viewing?

Virtually all nations in my region, Minoa.

[[violet]]

Fixed now?

[Menta Lee-IL]

Just chose the add more police option for the graffiti artist issue, and the resulting stats showed a decrease in law enforcement spending and defense? Seems illogical to me? Apologies if this is the wrong thread.

Further to my post above, i received the issue "Where have all the flowers gone?" and chose the option which results in dissidents being executed. The result? Increased civil rights. There have been quite a few issues which result in contradictory effects, such as this and the one mentioned above. I have no clue how killing off dissidents could possibly lead to better civil rights.

[The Lonesome Pine]

Why does boosting the army's budget (147.1) increase Inclusiveness?

[Floor 448]

Just chose the add more police option for the graffiti artist issue, and the resulting stats showed a decrease in law enforcement spending and defense? Seems illogical to me? Apologies if this is the wrong thread.

Further to my post above, i received the issue "Where have all the flowers gone?" and chose the option which results in dissidents being executed. The result? Increased civil rights. There have been quite a few issues which result in contradictory effects, such as this and the one mentioned above. I have no clue how killing off dissidents could possibly lead to better civil rights.

Why does boosting the army's budget (147.1) increase Inclusiveness?

[MEGATHREAD] Unusual Issue Effects Since Update

[Bears Armed]

Why does boosting the army's budget (147.1) increase Inclusiveness?

[MEGATHREAD] Unusual Issue Effects Since Update

Oops! That was where I meant to post this.

[[violet]]

Why does boosting the army's budget (147.1) increase Inclusiveness?

It does so explicitly, so this is a question for Editors.

[[violet]]

i received the issue "Where have all the flowers gone?" and chose the option which results in dissidents being executed. The result? Increased civil rights. There have been quite a few issues which result in contradictory effects, such as this and the one mentioned above. I have no clue how killing off dissidents could possibly lead to better civil rights.

This issue choice generally leads to a widespread restriction of freedoms. However, there is one area where it loosens freedoms: gun control. In Menta Lee-IL, government control was already so absolute that there was nothing left to restrict, so this didn't change Civil Rights like it normally would. What was left was the small loosening of gun laws, which is a personal freedom and a part of Civil Rights.

Worth nothing that this was a very small change, as Civil Rights rose from 1.46 to 1.54 on a scale from 0 to 100. That is, Civil Rights were and still are almost non-existent in this nation. They are just slightly more existent than they used to be, since citizens are more free to own guns.

[Sanctaria]

Why does boosting the army's budget (147.1) increase Inclusiveness?

It does so explicitly, so this is a question for Editors.

More funding -> more recruits -> recruits from different backgrounds mingling/training/developing camaraderie together -> increases inclusiveness.

[Bears Armed]

It does so explicitly, so this is a question for Editors.

More funding -> more recruits -> recruits from different backgrounds mingling/training/developing camaraderie together -> increases inclusiveness.

Thank you.
Hokay, I can understand that.

[Mostrov]

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[[violet]]

The option to go between various census is missing in both Rift and Antiquity, which makes it very awkward to look at multiple census or use it with multiple nations.

Thanks. Fixed a couple of cases where the selectors could go missing in Antiquity and Century themes.

[Trotterdam]

So, I would still really like it if the censi could be made to show actual values, as well as the rankings.

Here's a mock-up of what I mean:

	Nation	WA Category	Motto
1.	The Confederacy of Undivulged Principles	Civil Rights Lovefest	"What goes around, comes around."	37883.94
2.	The Republic of Jotinha	Inoffensive Centrist Democracy	"Don't mistake my kindness for weakness"	32316.15
3.	The Grand Principality of Nova Prutenia	Left-wing Utopia	"Amicitia et Aequitas"	31504.85
4.	The Vermindom of Szczuropolis	New York Times Democracy	"Omnium rerum rattus mensura est."	31150.96
5.	The Free Republic of Vontanas	Left-wing Utopia	"Xia Ren, Shang Mu"	27873.32

Maybe with "Mozzarella Productivity Index" filling in the blank cell in the top right, although that might take up too much width.

This would be very useful for, say, telling whether the first-place nation is far ahead of the second-place nation or if it's a close contest, and just quickly accessing values you're interested in in general.

(Also, this makes me notice that we don't have an [img=36x24] tag like I've seen on other forums.)

[Bears Armed]

So, I would still really like it if the censi could be made to show actual values, as well as the rankings.

*(mock-up snipped)*

This would be very useful for, say, telling whether the first-place nation is far ahead of the second-place nation or if it's a close contest, and just quickly accessing values you're interested in in general.

Agreed.
I actually asked for this years ago, back on Jolt, and at that time IIRC it went onto [violet]'s "not a bad idea, but not the highest priority" list...

[Flanderlion]

Also similar, when you are comparing region ranks in smaller region, it'd be a lot easier if there was an option to add all nations in your region. Obviously in a GCR etc. that'd screw things up.

Example: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=kark ... dd_region=
If there was an option to add a 'add_all_region' which added every single nation in the region onto the graph, you'd be able to see how you compared stats wise in general and how far it is to the top. Then again it might be a lot of work for a small reward, I'm not sure how the code on the backend works.

[Trotterdam]

Just noticed a minor bug:

If you click on a regional trophy on a region page (that is, a trophy awarded to the region, not in the region), it takes you to a list of nations in the region by that ranking. This is generally useful for telling just who contributed most to any given trophy... but it doesn't work if the trophy in question is for Most Nations.

[[violet]]

Just noticed a minor bug:

If you click on a regional trophy on a region page (that is, a trophy awarded to the region, not in the region), it takes you to a list of nations in the region by that ranking. This is generally useful for telling just who contributed most to any given trophy... but it doesn't work if the trophy in question is for Most Nations.

Because everybody's score is 1? Not sure I get your point. An alphabetical list is more useful than a list of nations sorted by number of nations per nation.

[Trotterdam]

Probably the most useful would be a link to the list of regions-in-the-world, rather than nations-in-the-region, by Most Nations. If that would be too incongruent (due to working different from every other trophy in the same listing), though, even just making that trophy not a link would make more sense than making it a broken link to something that has nothing to do with what you clicked on. There are other ways to get a generic nations-in-the-region listing.

[[violet]]

Can we pretend that it is ranking nations in order of nations per nation and secondarily sorting on name?