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Postby The Realm of Lordaeron » Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:34 pm

It would be cool if it was IOS, but why anyone would buy an IOS device is beyond me. Android is better, google is more inventive and Apple is to restrictive.
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Postby Phydios » Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:53 pm

The Realm of Lordaeron wrote:It would be cool if it was IOS, but why anyone would buy an IOS device is beyond me. Android is better, google is more inventive and Apple is to restrictive.

In short, they're more secure and more user-friendly. I understand that Android is user-friendly, but iOS is made to work even if you're brand new to smartphones. And iOS devices have all updates available immediately, while Android updates, including security fixes, often have to go through the carrier and/or manufacturer first. Also, iOS had many features long before Android did. But we shouldn't threadjack here.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:04 am

This is not an Apple vs Google or Android vs iPhone discussion.
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Postby Phydios » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:09 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:This is not an Apple vs Google or Android vs iPhone discussion.

Yep. Already noted. Just trying to provide an answer to Lordaeron without threadjacking. Sorry.
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Postby The Constellation Islands » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:14 pm

As an iOS user, I am beyond jealous. The mobile site is tedious, it would be amazing for the NS devs to come up with something for the App Store. Hell, I'd buy the app if they needed to make money to pay for the Apple costs.
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Postby Chkalovsk » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:57 pm

THIS.
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Should become the official app imo.
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Postby The Realm of Lordaeron » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:58 pm

The Constellation Islands wrote:As an iOS user, I am beyond jealous. The mobile site is tedious, it would be amazing for the NS devs to come up with something for the App Store. Hell, I'd buy the app if they needed to make money to pay for the Apple costs.


Can't Ios devices run android apps in emulation?
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Postby Greater Tern » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:16 am

Waspeaters wrote:Just had a quick flick around the app, and it looks really nice so far. Good job!

Chkalovsk wrote:THIS.
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Should become the official app imo.

Thanks, I appreciate it!

I have a pretty big update in the works, I'm just waiting for instant issues to come out (so I can update the issues flow in the app at the same time). I'm also waiting to hear back on my telegrams GHR, but I'm sure the admins are busy with the new update so that might be on the back burner for a while.

The Constellation Islands wrote:As an iOS user, I am beyond jealous. The mobile site is tedious, it would be amazing for the NS devs to come up with something for the App Store. Hell, I'd buy the app if they needed to make money to pay for the Apple costs.


Come join us. :p

In all seriousness, [violet] had previously said that they won't be building an app themselves. I think it would be great if someone from the community built one though.

The Realm of Lordaeron wrote:Can't Ios devices run android apps in emulation?


Nope. You might be thinking of BlackBerry -- I think the newest OS can sideload Android apps or something.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:06 am

The telegrams thing is under discussion.
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Postby Greater Tern » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:25 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:The telegrams thing is under discussion.

Sounds good, thanks!

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Postby Zocra » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:47 pm

Could you allow screen-tilting to Landscape view on the app?
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Postby Greater Tern » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:58 pm

Zocra wrote:Could you allow screen-tilting to Landscape view on the app?

There are currently some weird rendering issues when going from portrait to landscape, so I'll enable it once I fix those issues.

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Postby Zocra » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:21 pm

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Zocra wrote:Could you allow screen-tilting to Landscape view on the app?

There are currently some weird rendering issues when going from portrait to landscape, so I'll enable it once I fix those issues.


Cool! Thanks. :)
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Postby The Constellation Islands » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:58 pm

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Zocra wrote:Could you allow screen-tilting to Landscape view on the app?

There are currently some weird rendering issues when going from portrait to landscape, so I'll enable it once I fix those issues.


So what are the options for iOS users? I don't know of anyone that wants to make an app for NS, let alone knows how to code an iOS app.
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Postby Zocra » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:43 pm

The Constellation Islands wrote:
Greater Tern wrote:There are currently some weird rendering issues when going from portrait to landscape, so I'll enable it once I fix those issues.


So what are the options for iOS users? I don't know of anyone that wants to make an app for NS, let alone knows how to code an iOS app.

It isn't so much the coding as much as it's the fact that launching an app on the iOS platform is like $99 /yr. It's only a one-time payment of $25 for launching on Google Play (Android).

EDIT: I worded things weirdly--fixed.
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Postby Gregahou » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:24 pm

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None that I'm aware of. The thing with iOS development is that it requires a MacBook, and devs need to pay Apple $100 a year just to be on the App Store, so that puts up a significant barrier to indie app devs.



Yeah, Apple's a pain in the neck lol. App looks very nice; I'd love to go back to Android.
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Postby Greater Tern » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:13 pm

A new version is out -- Stately 1.3.0!

What's new:
  • Endorse other WA nations in your region
  • Move to other regions, both open and password-protected
  • Quote other posts and delete your own in your region's RMB
  • Basic Dossier support for the Activity Feed
  • Removed ads
  • Bug fixes and other improvements

Feedback, suggestions and concerns are welcome.

I've updated Stately's issues flow in anticipation of what instant issues could look like, but I'll most likely be pushing out another update once that's out.

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Postby Drawkland » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:13 pm

Greater Tern wrote:What's new:
  • Quote other posts and delete your own in your region's RMB

As a Regional Founder, I'm curious to know if Suppression is enabled on Stately.

While I'm here, are any other admin controls available? I'm not able to download the app at this moment (my phone is old), but when I upgrade in the next few weeks I'll consider downloading the app if I can control my region from it.
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Postby Greater Tern » Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:09 pm

Drawkland wrote:As a Regional Founder, I'm curious to know if Suppression is enabled on Stately.

While I'm here, are any other admin controls available? I'm not able to download the app at this moment (my phone is old), but when I upgrade in the next few weeks I'll consider downloading the app if I can control my region from it.


Not at the moment -- for now, you can only delete posts you made on your current region's RMB. Adding that feature is probably possible since I can get which nations have what permissions from the API. However, the API doesn't appear to support suppressed posts, so the app wouldn't know the post was suppressed in the first place. I can add that to my list of API feature requests.

By admin controls, do you mean the settings in the "Region Control" page? They're not available right now, but I can look into it. Eject/ban could be more complicated.

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Postby Drawkland » Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:21 pm

Greater Tern wrote:Not at the moment -- for now, you can only delete posts you made on your current region's RMB. Adding that feature is probably possible since I can get which nations have what permissions from the API. However, the API doesn't appear to support suppressed posts, so the app wouldn't know the post was suppressed in the first place. I can add that to my list of API feature requests.

Okay, good then.
Greater Tern wrote:By admin controls, do you mean the settings in the "Region Control" page? They're not available right now, but I can look into it. Eject/ban could be more complicated.

That's what I meant.

I would prefer that you would look into that, because I feel like if I was going to make use of an app for NS, it'd have to replace anything I could do on the Mobile Site - otherwise it's pointless and I'd be better off sticking with the mobile site (because I certainly wouldn't want to have to switch between the two for different functions).

Of course, I don't want to rush you or overload you or anything, but the entire point of an NS app would entail that it could do anything the mobile site could, or else it defeats the point of its existence. So I hope that that's your goal in the coming updates.
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Postby Greater Tern » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:12 pm

Drawkland wrote:I would prefer that you would look into that, because I feel like if I was going to make use of an app for NS, it'd have to replace anything I could do on the Mobile Site - otherwise it's pointless and I'd be better off sticking with the mobile site (because I certainly wouldn't want to have to switch between the two for different functions).

Of course, I don't want to rush you or overload you or anything, but the entire point of an NS app would entail that it could do anything the mobile site could, or else it defeats the point of its existence. So I hope that that's your goal in the coming updates.


Fair enough. My general approach to adding new features in Stately is to focus on things people would want to do on the go. For features like region control, I'm assuming that power users already have an established process for those, which most likely involve using an actual desktop. If there's enough demand for those features though I could definitely prioritize them on my list.

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Postby Drawkland » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:35 pm

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Drawkland wrote:I would prefer that you would look into that, because I feel like if I was going to make use of an app for NS, it'd have to replace anything I could do on the Mobile Site - otherwise it's pointless and I'd be better off sticking with the mobile site (because I certainly wouldn't want to have to switch between the two for different functions).

Of course, I don't want to rush you or overload you or anything, but the entire point of an NS app would entail that it could do anything the mobile site could, or else it defeats the point of its existence. So I hope that that's your goal in the coming updates.


Fair enough. My general approach to adding new features in Stately is to focus on things people would want to do on the go. For features like region control, I'm assuming that power users already have an established process for those, which most likely involve using an actual desktop. If there's enough demand for those features though I could definitely prioritize them on my list.

That does make sense. Thanks for your response.
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Postby Greater Tern » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:28 pm

Issues are currently broken in Stately. After playing around with the new issues flow on the site (which I love btw!), it looks like the following changes were made:

  • "Dismiss all" no longer exists.
  • If you have "confirm decisions" enabled, the site doesn't actually remember what your choice is -- it just shows you a intermediate page before you actually submit your decision. Refreshing the page resets this.
  • Decisions are POSTed directly to the new summary page.
  • The summary page contains the newest happening for that decision, any reclassifications (from government type to just changes in your freedom levels), as well as census stats that have changed.

I'll most likely push out an update to fix submitting issue decisions later tonight (Monday evening EST), which will include parts of the summary page. Sorry for the inconvenience!

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Postby Greater Tern » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:13 pm

Stately 1.3.2 is now live, bringing with it support for instant issues. This update also fixes a bug with logins and adding new nations to the Switch list in the old version. Sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you for your patience.

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Feedback, suggestions and concerns are welcome. On a side note, kudos to [violet] and the tech team for releasing such an awesome update! I loved playing around with the new issues process as I was coding it into Stately. You guys rock!
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Postby The Constellation Islands » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:46 pm

I've got to stop reading this post- jealousy meters are dangerously high.

I have no idea how to emulate an app, even if it's possible, I would have no idea what to do.

Now I know the admins said they wouldn't make the app, but if you (OP) had a licensing deal with Mr. Barry and whichever company of his owns the NS game, I'm certain they would pay for the Apple costs. I have a strong feeling they have enough coin to do it.

However, this is just speculation, and in no way am I a representative of either parties and I am not giving any legal or business advice.This is just constructive brainstorming to help us suffering iOS users get equality among the operating systems to appreciate this masterpiece of an app.
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