Budget Details.

[James Bluntus]

I have a suggestion. Can we have a feature where we set our budget details? I want to increase my military spending but I haven't got an issue about it.

[Pythagosaurus]

That sounds like micromanaging, something that is expressly frowned upon in this game.

[James Bluntus]

That sounds like micromanaging, something that is expressly frowned upon in this game.

No. I just want a feature that we can set the budget the way we want.

[Pythagosaurus]

Do you know what micromanaging means?

[Fit battion]

That sounds like micromanaging, something that is expressly frowned upon in this game.

No. I just want a feature that we can set the budget the way we want.

That is micromanagement and if you want to do it just role-play it. There are a number of problems in my opinion about micromanagement:

1. It makes it more confusing
2. Forces you to spend more time on the game, I love the game and everything but I (and many others) prefer spending time on our regions forums
3. If you let one micromanagement feature like this in, I can promise you the Technical section would get flooded with requests for more and this time they would have a valid argument

[Topid]

Do you know what micromanaging means?

Rofl, I love Pyth.

You know, there are those who play the game only to answer issues specifically to get high funding for certain areas (I don't know why, but they exist ). It would kind of be a slap in the face to make that as easy as simply setting a budget... It would make all their hard (or at least long) work pointless.

[Bears Armed]

It would also be pointless for those of us who RP as having significantly lower population levels (and thus significantly lower GNPs) than the game says, or whose nations are non-'unitary' ones in which many aspects of "government" spending are (constitutionally) handled at "lower" levels rather than nationally... and Bears Armed, for one example, falls into both of those catgeories...

[Poree]

This topic does bring up in my mind one question I did have.

Why does the Budget have zero % in so many areas for a starting nation? Why not have at least a 1% in each catagory?

I mean I realize it is what it is, I am just curious why so many zeros.

Empire of Poree

[Pythagosaurus]

NSEconomy is a third party invention. They don't know anything about the internals of your nation. They just made it up. You will have to ask them why they made things up that way.

[Topid]

They don't know anything about the internals of your nation.

That's a little harsh, lol. Not everything but surely a few things.

[Poree]

NSEconomy is a third party invention. They don't know anything about the internals of your nation. They just made it up. You will have to ask them why they made things up that way.

Ah, I was under the false impression they were pulling that data from somewhere other then thin air.

Sorry. Thanks for the info.

[Unibot]

NSEconomy is a third party invention. They don't know anything about the internals of your nation. They just made it up. You will have to ask them why they made things up that way.

Ah, I was under the false impression they were pulling that data from somewhere other then thin air.

Sorry. Thanks for the info.

NS provides them with the stats you already have, like a Civil Rights... and they manipulate them to provide their own coefficients, which are not official...

http://www.thirdgeek.com/old/nseconomyformulae.xml

... that being said, NSeconomy is still pretty cool.

[NewTexas]

Budget Detail percentages are directly from the NationStates XML Feeds:

<GOVT>
  <ADMINISTRATION>0%</ADMINISTRATION> 
  <WELFARE>0%</WELFARE> 
  <HEALTHCARE>0%</HEALTHCARE> 
  <EDUCATION>6%</EDUCATION> 
  <SPIRITUALITY>1%</SPIRITUALITY> 
  <DEFENCE>74%</DEFENCE> 
  <LAWANDORDER>10%</LAWANDORDER> 
  <COMMERCE>9%</COMMERCE> 
  <PUBLICTRANSPORT>0%</PUBLICTRANSPORT> 
  <ENVIRONMENT>0%</ENVIRONMENT> 
  <SOCIALEQUALITY>0%</SOCIALEQUALITY> 
</GOVT>

See: http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/nationdata.cgi/nation=newtexas

The extrapolated monetary values are what is "made up" and is based on a formula for a nation's GDP created by a number of nations a long time ago.

See: http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/main.aspx?nation=newtexas

[Pythagosaurus]

Woah. I didn't think we gave that stuff away. I'm not sure we should.

[Topid]

Woah. I didn't think we gave that stuff away. I'm not sure we should.

[not a genius]
It's not the actual numbers... If something could be found out by that I think someone probably would have by now...

[Unibot]

Woah. I didn't think we gave that stuff away. I'm not sure we should.

[Pythagosaurus]

No, it's not the actual numbers, but it's still specific enough to give people a good idea of what certain issue choices do.

[Poree]

Budget Detail percentages are directly from the NationStates XML Feeds:

[SNIP Great Info]

Then I return to my thought, it is a shame that there is not a minimum of 1% in each catagory. Zero just seems real odd to me.

I of course understand that things are what they are, but maybe this could be worth at least looking into.

[Unibotian WASC Mission]

No, it's not the actual numbers, but it's still specific enough to give people a good idea of what certain issue choices do.

There are still a lot of hidden variables out there, for sure. Or atleast, there appears to be, according to the World Census Reports.

[Former Principalities]

Wow, those are some pretty hectic calculations

[Topid]

Budget Detail percentages are directly from the NationStates XML Feeds:

[SNIP Great Info]

Then I return to my thought, it is a shame that there is not a minimum of 1% in each catagory. Zero just seems real odd to me.

I of course understand that things are what they are, but maybe this could be worth at least looking into.

I suppose if it bugs you, you could think of it as a number that has rounded to 0. Like .4 %

[Usual People In Life]

I know it would be nice, but I don't think it is possible code wise, what do you think violet?

[Poree]

I suppose if it bugs you, you could think of it as a number that has rounded to 0. Like .4 %

Not so much bugs as just seems odd. All of the entries are full % with several zeros. I just thought it would be nice to have it be a minimum of 1%. But clearly if that does not make sense from aprogram point of view so be it.

[[violet]]

Woah. I didn't think we gave that stuff away. I'm not sure we should.

It's been this way since 2003!

[[violet]]

I just thought it would be nice to have it be a minimum of 1%.

If a nation spends nothing on Public Transport, it's 0%. Lots of nations don't want to spend anything in a particular area.