STOP pms for delegates

[Reinnapani]

\wondering if we can possibly get up a list of WA delegates who DO NOT want to receive pms from people who want there proposals to pass. or possibly ban it all together because it is really annoying receiving pms from people about there proposals when i am going to look at all the proposals anyway. Read them and make my own judgement

[Weylara]

I picked #1. You don't want to ban it altogether, because of those Delegates who never bother to check out the Proposals queue.

[South Norwega]

I've only received 1 Telegram in my time as a Delegate. I am disappointed because I was expecting a deluge.

The practice is fine by me.

[Topid]

I would suggest reading the rules before starting something like this. If you write that you do not want to receive TGs for WA proposals in your WFE, people can't contact you. So... [/problem]

Without TGing delegates the WA would die. No proposal makes quorum without it.

[Ruzan]

Long ago, in a galaxy far away, under another name, I was a Delegate for a short time. And I didn't even think about looking at the proposal queue until I got TGs asking me to support this or that. Too many TGs for dumb proposals can be annoying, but as long as they didn't go overboard, I didn't mind being notified of potentially interesting proposals.

[Neasmyrna]

As long as you're not being officially spammed by them... it is a most necessary part of the game of politics.

[Anime Daisuki]

\wondering if we can possibly get up a list of WA delegates who DO NOT want to receive pms from people who want there proposals to pass. or possibly ban it all together because it is really annoying receiving pms from people about there proposals when i am going to look at all the proposals anyway. Read them and make my own judgement

There is a work around, if you don't want to receive any telegrams.

1. Ask someone to telegram you until you have 20 telegrams in your inbox
2. Save all telegrams
3. The game will tell you "Your inbox is filled with saved telegrams. You will not be able to receive new telegrams until you unsave or delete some."
4. Problem solved.

Of course that also means you won't be able to receive ANY telegrams, not just those containing proposals. But there is no way for the game to distinguish the contents of any telegram.

[Linux and the X]

No proposal makes quorum without it.

Not entirely true. My own proposal would have made quorum without the small amount of campaigning I did, as it would have had more than enough proposals to succeed even if none of the nations I telegrammed voted for it.

[Sionis Prioratus]

\wondering if we can possibly get up a list of WA delegates who DO NOT want to receive pms from people who want there proposals to pass. or possibly ban it all together because it is really annoying receiving pms from people about there proposals when i am going to look at all the proposals anyway. Read them and make my own judgement

I see your point, as I am a Delegate myself ... and also a frequent campaigner.

I do also get deluged with people asking for approvals... i think it's part of the job, but I understand some people can find it annoying.

I propose a solution, although I think it could be hard to implement:

Mark the WA members who have proposals up for approval, and then give the Delegates the option (a checkbox somewhere) not to receive TG from those members, as long as they're marked (is this understandable? )

But for it to be a win-win, we campaigners should not even be able to see the TG box of Delegates who've checked the option, so as not to waste time; that would be the benefit for campaigners, too... not wasting precious time on Delegates who do not want to be contacted anyway.

[Topid]

\wondering if we can possibly get up a list of WA delegates who DO NOT want to receive pms from people who want there proposals to pass. or possibly ban it all together because it is really annoying receiving pms from people about there proposals when i am going to look at all the proposals anyway. Read them and make my own judgement

I see your point, as I am a Delegate myself ... and also a frequent campaigner.

I do also get deluged with people asking for approvals... i think it's part of the job, but I understand some people can find it annoying.

I propose a solution, although I think it could be hard to implement:

Mark the WA members who have proposals up for approval, and then give the Delegates the option (a checkbox somewhere) not to receive TG from those members, as long as they're marked (is this understandable? )

But for it to be a win-win, we campaigners should not even be able to see the TG box of Delegates who've checked the option, so as not to waste time; that would be the benefit for campaigners, too... not wasting precious time on Delegates who do not want to be contacted anyway.

Except given the option I think most would turn it off, and we'd be lucky if 6% of delegates ever looked at the queue...

[Sionis Prioratus]

And coming to think of it, a proxy nation could always be used. Better to leave the system as-is.

[Topid]

And coming to think of it, a proxy nation could always be used. Better to leave the system as-is.

And still, if you don't want telegrams say so in your WFE. The offsite draftroom I use has a list of delegates/regions that don't want TGs. So there really isn't a problem with the current system if everything goes well.

EDIT: Although that would make a NICE sticky.

[Rutianas]

And still, if you don't want telegrams say so in your WFE.

We actually have that in our WFE (and it's been there for a while) and I'm getting tired of all the TGs I get on Swarming Cute Kittens for WA stuff. It doesn't work.

[Glen-Rhodes]

We actually have that in our WFE (and it's been there for a while) and I'm getting tired of all the TGs I get on Swarming Cute Kittens for WA stuff. It doesn't work.

GHR, buddy.

[Swarming Cute Kittens]

We actually have that in our WFE (and it's been there for a while) and I'm getting tired of all the TGs I get on Swarming Cute Kittens for WA stuff. It doesn't work.

GHR, buddy.

Oh, I know. I send a courtesy 'please don't TG me again' with a point to the WFE type message first. If they persist, then I report it as spam.

[Unibotian WASC Mission]

We actually have that in our WFE (and it's been there for a while) and I'm getting tired of all the TGs I get on Swarming Cute Kittens for WA stuff. It doesn't work.

GHR, buddy.

Oh, I know. I send a courtesy 'please don't TG me again' with a point to the WFE type message first. If they persist, then I report it as spam.

Yeah, thats right, I have to make sure I get you off all my lists, I have four or five ones that I use regularly, and at one time you were on all of them. Eeek.

[Serrland]

Can this title be changed to "STOP PMs for delegates" - pms is something completely different, and entirely unrelated...

[KingIsaac]

well I am a delegate. I do want to receive those messages with "please vote for the resolution blahblahblah" because for me, it is part of my job!

I know it is sometimes annoying, but without that campaign, maybe, no proposals would be pass.

[Bears Armed]

I'm not a Delegate, currently, but -- presumably because I'm a fairly regular visitor to the GA forum -- I've recently received several "please take a look & help me to get my proposal right" TGs... although, as the authors are posting drafts of those proposals in that forum, I'd see them and (probably) comment on them anyway. Now, that is mildly irritating and I doubt whether a WFE entry would stop it: Short of sacrificing my nation's motto to place a message requesting no such TGs, which probably wouldn't work very well anyway, (and short of dropping out of GA activity completely, of course...) does anybody here have any suggestions for dealing with that problem?

[Rutianas]

well I am a delegate. I do want to receive those messages with "please vote for the resolution blahblahblah" because for me, it is part of my job!

I know it is sometimes annoying, but without that campaign, maybe, no proposals would be pass.

I can understand both sides of this, but when someone doesn't want to receive PMs and states that on the regional WFE, then it should be respected. I'm active in the WA. I check the proposal listings. I read the arguments. Campaign PMs won't decide my vote as our region is democratic. We have a vote. The Delegate vote goes the way the region wants. So, sending Swarming Cute Kittens PMs regarding the WA is doing nothing other than cluttering up SCK's inbox. It's unwanted PMs, thus spam.

[Pythagosaurus]

I've been considering making a toggle so you can only receive TGs from nations in your region or people you've sent TGs to (off by default; and, of course, circumventing that protection would be warn-worthy). What are your feelings on that?

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I've been considering making a toggle so you can only receive TGs from nations in your region or people you've sent TGs to (off by default; and, of course, circumventing that protection would be warn-worthy). What are your feelings on that?

Nothing related to the world of TGs may be fully foolproof, but it is worthy of a trial. I still stand by my "Please do not telegram this delegate about proposals" option idea.

[Progressive Link]

I've been considering making a toggle so you can only receive TGs from nations in your region or people you've sent TGs to (off by default; and, of course, circumventing that protection would be warn-worthy). What are your feelings on that?

How will regions recruit then, apart from spamming the RMB?

[Glen-Rhodes]

I've been considering making a toggle so you can only receive TGs from nations in your region or people you've sent TGs to (off by default; and, of course, circumventing that protection would be warn-worthy). What are your feelings on that?

Sour. TGs are essential to the World Assembly. Unless some other form of campaigning is provided, I wouldn't really like any mechanism that prevents WA campaigners from sending TGs. A message in the WFE or nation description is really enough. If somebody still sends you TGs, that's what GHRs are for.

[Sedgistan]

The problems for recruiting/WA campaigning have already been mentioned, but it might also hinder defending. No-one expects their region to get invaded, so if they don't want to be bothered with telegrams, they might prevent people sending them. If some invaders move into their region, we wouldn't be able to warn them about it.