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Postby Creepwood » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:55 am

As Delegate for The Realm of Chaos, I would love to gain the ability to appoint Regional Officers within my region and test this out
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Postby Mousebumples » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:53 am

1302 wrote:Question: When I as founder give my non-executive delegate extra powers (appearance f.i.) is that change kept when a new nation becomes delegate?

If you look on the Regional Admin page, under officers, any powers that are designated for the "World Assembly Delegate" will be given to any World Assembly Delegate. If your current WAD loses that position, they will lose the associated powers.

If you want to maintain a non-exec WAD, I'd suggest a similar setup to what I've arranged in Monkey Island, where I control the founder puppet.

Regional Admin Page

If you look at the WAD position, Separatist Peoples only has WA powers there, which is unchangeable. However, I also added him as an Officer for the elected position we term "Top Banana," where I basically gave him exec powers.

If someone wants to raid Monkey Island, they could vote on behalf of their endos and reset the "time served" clock, but they wouldn't get any other abilities. Something to be cautious of - and something I expect Raiders to start targeting at some point, as those "Non-Exec WADs" still have a fair bit of powers if they aren't allocated in a particular way.
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Postby 1302 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:58 am

Mousebumples wrote:
1302 wrote:Question: When I as founder give my non-executive delegate extra powers (appearance f.i.) is that change kept when a new nation becomes delegate?

If you look on the Regional Admin page, under officers, any powers that are designated for the "World Assembly Delegate" will be given to any World Assembly Delegate. If your current WAD loses that position, they will lose the associated powers.

If you want to maintain a non-exec WAD, I'd suggest a similar setup to what I've arranged in Monkey Island, where I control the founder puppet.

Regional Admin Page

If you look at the WAD position, Separatist Peoples only has WA powers there, which is unchangeable. However, I also added him as an Officer for the elected position we term "Top Banana," where I basically gave him exec powers.

If someone wants to raid Monkey Island, they could vote on behalf of their endos and reset the "time served" clock, but they wouldn't get any other abilities. Something to be cautious of - and something I expect Raiders to start targeting at some point, as those "Non-Exec WADs" still have a fair bit of powers if they aren't allocated in a particular way.


Thanks a milion, I hope a lot of founders read this, so we can give our delegates the powers they deserve and we don't have to be afraid of incoming raiders messing with our region.

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Postby Fezkovia » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:04 am

Heyyy there, nothing to see here! Definitely didn't post the wrong thing in the wrong thread!
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Postby United German Regions » Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:15 pm

I have a few questions:

1)Is there any order in which regions are getting the feature, or just random? (Asking because I mostly see GCRs and big, well known regions with the abilities)
2)Is there any estimates yet on how long until all regions have regional officers activated?
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Postby The Freehold of Caelton » Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:21 pm

So, I have a question: does annexation make it harder for outsiders to wrest control from a region? If so I can see how this could actually HELP defenders... even if the same help also goes towards raiders...
How? Preemptively requesting annexation from a defender region to prevent ease of access FOR raiders...

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:23 pm

United German Regions wrote:I have a few questions:

1)Is there any order in which regions are getting the feature, or just random? (Asking because I mostly see GCRs and big, well known regions with the abilities)
2)Is there any estimates yet on how long until all regions have regional officers activated?


1. You can request RO in another thread viewtopic.php?f=15&t=356845
2. A few days, we're testing right now. After [v] is comfortable that most bugs are out, it will be deployed to all regions

The Freehold of Caelton wrote:So, I have a question: does annexation make it harder for outsiders to wrest control from a region? If so I can see how this could actually HELP defenders... even if the same help also goes towards raiders...
How? Preemptively requesting annexation from a defender region to prevent ease of access FOR raiders...


Annexation?

That's not the topic of this thread I think. But our ideas about annexation are discussed in the R/D summit (at the top of Technical). And as of yet there are no final details known about how it will exactly work, so the question cannot be answered.
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Postby The Freehold of Caelton » Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:57 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
United German Regions wrote:I have a few questions:

1)Is there any order in which regions are getting the feature, or just random? (Asking because I mostly see GCRs and big, well known regions with the abilities)
2)Is there any estimates yet on how long until all regions have regional officers activated?


1. You can request RO in another thread viewtopic.php?f=15&t=356845
2. A few days, we're testing right now. After [v] is comfortable that most bugs are out, it will be deployed to all regions

The Freehold of Caelton wrote:So, I have a question: does annexation make it harder for outsiders to wrest control from a region? If so I can see how this could actually HELP defenders... even if the same help also goes towards raiders...
How? Preemptively requesting annexation from a defender region to prevent ease of access FOR raiders...


Annexation?

That's not the topic of this thread I think. But our ideas about annexation are discussed in the R/D summit (at the top of Technical). And as of yet there are no final details known about how it will exactly work, so the question cannot be answered.

Ok, my mistake.. I was in hurry and clicked the wrong link... Merp...

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Postby The Stalker » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:21 pm

One quick thought on the ROs, it be cool if we had the option to shorten the nation names, as in remove the pre-tittle.

Some people have really long pre-tittles for their nation and it looks a bit clustered having them, be cool to opt out of them.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:36 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Here's a question:
If I move into my own created region, name myself the VWAD, and go back to Europeia, will I start getting 130-vote clout in the WA votes?


Try it.

It's a beta test, see what happens :)

Tried it, but for some reason, my puppet doesn't have the power to give out the WA officer power. Can only the Delegate do that?
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Postby Lockdownn » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:42 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Try it.

It's a beta test, see what happens :)

Tried it, but for some reason, my puppet doesn't have the power to give out the WA officer power. Can only the Delegate do that?

If you're a founder or executive delegate.

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Postby Zemnaya Svoboda » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:25 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Try it.

It's a beta test, see what happens :)

Tried it, but for some reason, my puppet doesn't have the power to give out the WA officer power. Can only the Delegate do that?

The WA officer power cannot be given out: it is automatically and exclusively possessed by the WA Delegate.

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Re: Regional Officers

Postby [violet] » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:27 pm

Ravania Ultra wrote:What is the reasoning behind the fact that an RO keeps his powers in a region when he's not there at update-time?

It wasn't asked for. According to my Summit notes, one representative raised the question but no-one responded to it.

I imagine that if you're not playing R/D, it's annoying to have to reappoint your Diplomacy Officer every time they miss being back in the region at update time. But there's no real prior discussion about this.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:30 pm

Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Tried it, but for some reason, my puppet doesn't have the power to give out the WA officer power. Can only the Delegate do that?

The WA officer power cannot be given out: it is automatically and exclusively possessed by the WA Delegate.

I was trying to give myself VWAD powers. Does that come with World Assembly powers?
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:00 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:The WA officer power cannot be given out: it is automatically and exclusively possessed by the WA Delegate.

I was trying to give myself VWAD powers. Does that come with World Assembly powers?

No

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Postby Sad-States » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:32 pm

The Stalker wrote:One quick thought on the ROs, it be cool if we had the option to shorten the nation names, as in remove the pre-tittle.

Some people have really long pre-tittles for their nation and it looks a bit clustered having them, be cool to opt out of them.

I agree, the pre-titles makes everything clustered.
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Postby Melon feud » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:31 pm

Sounds fun! Sleeper agent 'dash rip rock' requests permission to be fully utilized,,, on the other hand, he's been homeless (banned/ disowned B-4)

Looking forward to it.

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Zemnaya Svoboda
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Postby Zemnaya Svoboda » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:00 pm

I will also agree regarding the pretitles. Like once in the past with Regional Message Boards, I suspect this would be a good switch to have in regoinal controls to see how people prefer to use it.

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Postby TheStonedSurfers » Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:57 am

Just a quick question. Since this RO thing is going to (without any unforeseen glitches) roll out eventually to all, wouldn't it be practical to remove the notice of who is the founder and who is the WA Delegate from above the WFE since, with regional officers, that information is also listed in an automatically-created section of the WFE?
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Postby Ravania Ultra » Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:38 am

[violet] wrote:
Ravania Ultra wrote:What is the reasoning behind the fact that an RO keeps his powers in a region when he's not there at update-time?

It wasn't asked for. According to my Summit notes, one representative raised the question but no-one responded to it.

I imagine that if you're not playing R/D, it's annoying to have to reappoint your Diplomacy Officer every time they miss being back in the region at update time. But there's no real prior discussion about this.


In my opinion, and this is not only as a defender, someone who has a responsibility in a region has to make some effort and being asked to be in the region at update-times is not that much to ask.

From my defender point of view, this would be a big advantage for tag-raiders to try and hold the tag as long as they can. But this could also be resolved by adding a minimum cost of regional influence to everything an RO does. Let's say one basic point or even less so a nation with 0 regional influence shouldn't be able to do anything in that region.

Another solution could be that a nation with 0 regional influence can't obtain an RO position in that region and loses it when he drops to 0 regional influence, if he leaves the region and doesn't return before he runs out of regional influence. That would solve the reappointing issue you raised.
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Postby Pierconium » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:14 am

Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:I will also agree regarding the pretitles. Like once in the past with Regional Message Boards, I suspect this would be a good switch to have in regoinal controls to see how people prefer to use it.

We are discussing a uniform pre-title for ROs but that will not change the difference in actual nation name lengths.
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Postby The King of Albion » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:54 am

Not sure if it has been raised, but what with the regional officers being automatically included in the WFE and centered, would it be able to add center coding to the main WFE as well? Looks a bit odd otherwise.

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Canton Empire
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Postby Canton Empire » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:18 am

[violet] wrote:
Ravania Ultra wrote:What is the reasoning behind the fact that an RO keeps his powers in a region when he's not there at update-time?

It wasn't asked for. According to my Summit notes, one representative raised the question but no-one responded to it.

I imagine that if you're not playing R/D, it's annoying to have to reappoint your Diplomacy Officer every time they miss being back in the region at update time. But there's no real prior discussion about this.

Can we be able to change the name of the WA delegate and founder like NS++?
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Postby Oakplumington » Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:57 pm

Mousebumples wrote:
1302 wrote:Question: When I as founder give my non-executive delegate extra powers (appearance f.i.) is that change kept when a new nation becomes delegate?

If you look on the Regional Admin page, under officers, any powers that are designated for the "World Assembly Delegate" will be given to any World Assembly Delegate. If your current WAD loses that position, they will lose the associated powers.

If you want to maintain a non-exec WAD, I'd suggest a similar setup to what I've arranged in Monkey Island, where I control the founder puppet.

Regional Admin Page

If you look at the WAD position, Separatist Peoples only has WA powers there, which is unchangeable. However, I also added him as an Officer for the elected position we term "Top Banana," where I basically gave him exec powers.

If someone wants to raid Monkey Island, they could vote on behalf of their endos and reset the "time served" clock, but they wouldn't get any other abilities. Something to be cautious of - and something I expect Raiders to start targeting at some point, as those "Non-Exec WADs" still have a fair bit of powers if they aren't allocated in a particular way.


I learned a lot just from reading this post. :)

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Postby [violet] » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:38 pm

Regional Officers are now available site-wide!

Updated OP.

News post here.

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