Translate to Spanish

[States of Vineland]

Hello everybody!
Today I was thinking about my region with my friend The EuroFederation and we had the idea of translate the game to Spanish and expand the public of this wonderful game. The people can help with the translation (the people who handle the language), the Spanish-speakers have a community, and everybody will be happy
I don't know if anyone proposed this thing before, but i think it's a good idea.
What do you think guys?

Saludos.

[Garrafas]

A great idea!

[States of Vineland]

A great idea!

Yeah, because sometimes I have laziness and I dont want to read issues in English, I guess it is because i am Spainard

[The Archregimancy]

I'm going to move this to Technical since you seem to be proposing translating the entire game into Spanish; so this doesn't really belong in General.

Please stand by....

[The Agnostic Collective]

This seems like a job for Google Translate...

[Luna Amore]

Due to the constant amount of work it would require, there won't ever be an official translation for NationStates.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Due to the constant amount of work it would require, there won't ever be an official translation for NationStates.

I asked this a while ago and here there are several links that explain what you just said in depth.

Official Responses

[Luna Amore]

Due to the constant amount of work it would require, there won't ever be an official translation for NationStates.

I asked this a while ago and here there are several links that explain what you just said in depth.

Official Responses

Thanks, Nana.

[Anollasia]

If we translate it to Spanish, we must translate it to other languages as well.

[The Blaatschapen]

If we translate it to Spanish, we must translate it to other languages as well.

As per https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... #p21042237 : Since we don't see it happening for 1 language, what makes you think it would suddenly be done in several other languages?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

If we translate it to Spanish, we must translate it to other languages as well.

Admin has made it clear in the past that this is an English language site, and will not be translated into other languages.

I believe there are tools on the net such as Google Translate that will allow you to view the site in the language of your choice. While the translations are imperfect, they're better than anything we could officially provide. Regardless, while you can read in French or Spanish or Swahili all day long, we ask that you post on the forums in English except in the desginated language threads, or your own language-specified region.

[Anollasia]

If we translate it to Spanish, we must translate it to other languages as well.

As per https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... #p21042237 : Since we don't see it happening for 1 language, what makes you think it would suddenly be done in several other languages?

I don't think we should, but if it happens, it shouldn't limited to just English and Spanish. I'm fine with how it is now though.

[Bitely]

I don't see a reason to translate NS into Spanish. Wouldn't that cause a barrier between players do to the fact that
They would have trouble understanding one another?

[States of Vineland]

If we translate it to Spanish, we must translate it to other languages as well.

As per https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... #p21042237 : Since we don't see it happening for 1 language, what makes you think it would suddenly be done in several other languages?

We can translate all the 200000 words and then create new content, i think there are enough Spanish-speakers to keep the site and the issues updated.

[Bitely]

As per https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... #p21042237 : Since we don't see it happening for 1 language, what makes you think it would suddenly be done in several other languages?

We can translate all the 200000 words and then create new content, i think there are enough Spanish-speakers to keep the site and the issues updated.

Wouldn't we then need another WA? Or else who would translate all the proposals?

[States of Vineland]

As per https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... #p21042237 : Since we don't see it happening for 1 language, what makes you think it would suddenly be done in several other languages?

I don't think we should, but if it happens, it shouldn't limited to just English and Spanish. I'm fine with how it is now though.

With something we have to start. English, Spanish, and if a group of people want it in another language too... Why not?

[States of Vineland]

We can translate all the 200000 words and then create new content, i think there are enough Spanish-speakers to keep the site and the issues updated.

Wouldn't we then need another WA? Or else who would translate all the proposals?

Create a new WA with other resolutions and proposals.

[States of Vineland]

The idea is to create another community, like youtube, and other multi-language sites. The game will have a new public, there are 300.000.000 or more Spanish speakers. I think it is a secure bet.

[NOrTh pAcIfiC spY]

Compared to using third party translation, what benefit is so compelling that rare admin time and even rarer coding time should be used?

Anything after the last mod post is purely hypothetical btw. given Luna said that they are not translating the game, and in previous discussions admins have supported the view.

[The Blaatschapen]

Stop spamming!

The next time, combine all those posts into one.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I don't think we should, but if it happens, it shouldn't limited to just English and Spanish. I'm fine with how it is now though.

With something we have to start. English, Spanish, and if a group of people want it in another language too... Why not?

Sorry mods, I am using Spanish here because I am not sure if the poster in question is understanding the negative to this idea.

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Si me permites...

Me parece que sigues sin entender que este es un foro en ingles. Oficialmente, dudo mucho que se haga una traduccion concisa y entera de NS porque, no se si te has dado cuenta, es enorme. No solo enorme, sino que produce informacion diaria, rapida, la cual es practicamente imposible de traducir a una velocidad ideal para que los hispanohablantes tengan la informacion. Aunque tratemos, es un trabajo monumental y, la verdad, no creo posible. Ademas, aunque se que hay una comunidad hispanohablante aqui, necesitarias un ejercito de traductores, en ambos hemisferios, constantemente traduciendo, para que todo este en optimas condiciones. Cosa que veo imposible porque los participantes tienen vidas propias.

[violet] ha dicho que si queremos hacerlo, pues que no le molesta, pero es una traduccion que no tendra caracter oficial.

De todas formas, una vez llegas a NS, y aceptas los terminos y condiciones, sabes que el foro es en ingles y que todo el contenido sera en ingles. Ademas, hay ya regiones de hispanohablantes. Por que no hacer vuestros hilos en espanol con traducciones y quedaros en eso?

De verdad, como alguien que ha hecho traducciones a nivel profesional, la tarea que propones es, francamente, enorme. Y me atreveria a decir que es virtualmente imposible de llevar a su conclusion. Creo, y puedo estar equivocada, que saldriamos mejor usando ''third paty translation'', como la funcion que tiene Google Chrome, si deseas que los hispanohablantes vean la informacion en castellano.

Esa es mi opinion, claro esta, y no de nadie mas. Saludos.

[Herargon]

Hi, Vineland!

To be honest, it may not be possible. However, you could make a Spanish language thread - on NationStates, we already have a French-speaking thread, a Dutch one and a German one (dead thread). It should be noted however that in the past, some people have had made such threads too, but wrongly. In their OP for example, they said that specific people - that didn't speak the desired language of the respective thread - were not allowed to post. These people often got their language threads either deleted, locked, or they got off with a warning when they changed it so that everyone was allowed.

Though, if you are the OP of such a thread, you are still allowed to ask in both English and the other language, that people should try to speak in the desired language on the thread.
Hope this helps!

[Castill]

With something we have to start. English, Spanish, and if a group of people want it in another language too... Why not?

Sorry mods, I am using Spanish here because I am not sure if the poster in question is understanding the negative to this idea.

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Si me permites...

Me parece que sigues sin entender que este es un foro en ingles. Oficialmente, dudo mucho que se haga una traduccion concisa y entera de NS porque, no se si te has dado cuenta, es enorme. No solo enorme, sino que produce informacion diaria, rapida, la cual es practicamente imposible de traducir a una velocidad ideal para que los hispanohablantes tengan la informacion. Aunque tratemos, es un trabajo monumental y, la verdad, no creo posible. Ademas, aunque se que hay una comunidad hispanohablante aqui, necesitarias un ejercito de traductores, en ambos hemisferios, constantemente traduciendo, para que todo este en optimas condiciones. Cosa que veo imposible porque los participantes tienen vidas propias.

[violet] ha dicho que si queremos hacerlo, pues que no le molesta, pero es una traduccion que no tendra caracter oficial.

De todas formas, una vez llegas a NS, y aceptas los terminos y condiciones, sabes que el foro es en ingles y que todo el contenido sera en ingles. Ademas, hay ya regiones de hispanohablantes. Por que no hacer vuestros hilos en espanol con traducciones y quedaros en eso?

De verdad, como alguien que ha hecho traducciones a nivel profesional, la tarea que propones es, francamente, enorme. Y me atreveria a decir que es virtualmente imposible de llevar a su conclusion. Creo, y puedo estar equivocada, que saldriamos mejor usando ''third paty translation'', como la funcion que tiene Google Chrome, si deseas que los hispanohablantes vean la informacion en castellano.

Esa es mi opinion, claro esta, y no de nadie mas. Saludos.

My idea is not to translate all the content that NationStates produces everyday, i am sayin that it will be cool if we translate only the basic information and create a independent community, with different new content, different issues, different WA, different forum, different mods, different admins...
It's just an idea, if the admins don't see it happening... nothing.

I'm vineland, posting with my other nation.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Sorry mods, I am using Spanish here because I am not sure if the poster in question is understanding the negative to this idea.

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Si me permites...

Me parece que sigues sin entender que este es un foro en ingles. Oficialmente, dudo mucho que se haga una traduccion concisa y entera de NS porque, no se si te has dado cuenta, es enorme. No solo enorme, sino que produce informacion diaria, rapida, la cual es practicamente imposible de traducir a una velocidad ideal para que los hispanohablantes tengan la informacion. Aunque tratemos, es un trabajo monumental y, la verdad, no creo posible. Ademas, aunque se que hay una comunidad hispanohablante aqui, necesitarias un ejercito de traductores, en ambos hemisferios, constantemente traduciendo, para que todo este en optimas condiciones. Cosa que veo imposible porque los participantes tienen vidas propias.

[violet] ha dicho que si queremos hacerlo, pues que no le molesta, pero es una traduccion que no tendra caracter oficial.

De todas formas, una vez llegas a NS, y aceptas los terminos y condiciones, sabes que el foro es en ingles y que todo el contenido sera en ingles. Ademas, hay ya regiones de hispanohablantes. Por que no hacer vuestros hilos en espanol con traducciones y quedaros en eso?

De verdad, como alguien que ha hecho traducciones a nivel profesional, la tarea que propones es, francamente, enorme. Y me atreveria a decir que es virtualmente imposible de llevar a su conclusion. Creo, y puedo estar equivocada, que saldriamos mejor usando ''third paty translation'', como la funcion que tiene Google Chrome, si deseas que los hispanohablantes vean la informacion en castellano.

Esa es mi opinion, claro esta, y no de nadie mas. Saludos.

My idea is not to translate all the content that NationStates produces everyday, i am sayin that it will be cool if we translate only the basic information and create a independent community, with different new content, different issues, different WA, different forum, different mods, different admins...
It's just an idea, if the admins don't see it happening... nothing.

I'm vineland, posting with my other nation.

Vineland, people already make offsite communities that are region-centric. If your intention is to do that, then cool, I'm sure that's ok. Many regions have/had offsite forum communities for their members. However, I'm not sure you using the WA (albeit different), for example, and making a site that somewhat mirrors NS with different issues and the like, but for Spanish speakers, is kosher. In fact, it sounds borderline plagiarism.

[Phydios]

My idea is not to translate all the content that NationStates produces everyday, i am sayin that it will be cool if we translate only the basic information and create a independent community, with different new content, different issues, different WA, different forum, different mods, different admins...
It's just an idea, if the admins don't see it happening... nothing.

I'm vineland, posting with my other nation.

You...you want the admins to make a second NS for Spanish-speaking people, like Wikipedia has multiple versions?!?!? I am not an admin, but I can say with complete confidence that pigs will fly before that happens in the foreseeable future. Even changes that are exponentially simpler than your idea get the "too much work for too little return" stamp.