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Oops... Did I just give away my nation?

Postby Topid » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:18 pm

:blink:

It's a puppet, so I won't be totally heart-broken... But I applied to the WA with a puppet so that I could switch WA nations, and I entered the wrong email. The email went to an address similar to mine, but not mine... :(

So, if someone clicks the link on that email they can log in as me and do.... Whatever they want?

[And I know the odds of whoever owns that email actually having heard of NS is small, so the email will probably be ignored.]
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Postby Khornate Worshippers » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:20 pm

You can change your e-mail and your password.
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Postby Topid » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:22 pm

Khornate Worshippers wrote:You can change your e-mail and your password.

Yes I can. But when you join the WA it just sends you a link and once the link is clicked it logs you in.

They don't need my password to log in, and changing my email address won't unsend the email. The stranger would still have it.
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Postby Weylara » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:25 pm

Send an email to the person explaining your mistake?

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Postby The Archiepelago » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:26 pm

That sucks. I feel bad for you. did you try contacting support or someone? (Why does it say i posted it at 10:26pm? It's 1:27am here)
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Postby Khornate Worshippers » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:26 pm

Has the WA accepted them yet? If they haven't, unapply.
FOR MAN WITHOUT EXPENSIVE SUIT, BIG BLACK MERCEDES, AND MASSIVE YACHT, BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS FOR PRETENDING OF BE RICH LIKE BLACK GANGSTER OF AMERICAN CITY WITH GOLD CHAINS OF LOW QUALITY AND JEWELS OF COLORED GLASS. WHEN YOU EXPLAIN USE OF BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS ONLY FOR SHOOT MAN WITH BULLET VEST WITH CARTRIDGE ILLEGAL TO CIVILIAN, THIS MAN HAS NUCLEAR RAGE. WHOLE IDENTITY OF THIS MAN IS SPENT IN PRETEND PISTOL SHOWS HE IS RICH. IS VERY AMUSE.

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Postby Topid » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:27 pm

I don't really care about the nation, I just needed another defender puppet in case I need to go on a defender mission... The issue I have is that someone could do this to their main nation. And that would suck. You should probably have to enter a password or something...

Khornate Worshippers wrote:Has the WA accepted them yet? If they haven't, unapply.

Yeah they accepted me.
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Postby Arumdaum » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:35 pm

Weylara wrote:Send an email to the person explaining your mistake?

Nobody would do that, unfortunately.
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:43 pm

Try to determine if the mistake email address even exists first- http://centralops.net/co/

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Postby Topid » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:46 pm

It does exist. That was the first thing I tried.

I didn't make this thread to see if I could save my puppet. I don't really care about it at all. But I do want to point out to the admin that this looks like a significant security risk. I switch emails and WAness all the time. If I did this to my main I'd be freaking out! I think we should have to enter our password on the WA application page before the link will work.
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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:29 am

[Not a tech person] I believe that:

No, you did not give away your nation. As long as they don't have your nation's password, the nation is safe. You don't need to confirm your nations password to be accepted to the WA.
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:34 am

Topid wrote:I don't really care about the nation, I just needed another defender puppet in case I need to go on a defender mission... The issue I have is that someone could do this to their main nation. And that would suck. You should probably have to enter a password or something...

Khornate Worshippers wrote:Has the WA accepted them yet? If they haven't, unapply.

Yeah they accepted me.

So if you resign that nation from the WA, wouldn't that automatically invalidate the message that's been sent to the other email?

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Postby Gangal » Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:45 am

Does the WA link auto-login using the nations password behind the scenes, or does it bypass the password completely? If the former, I would think changing the pw would prevent the login. If the later, that is a VERY serious security matter.

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Postby Khornate Worshippers » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:36 am

Have a program auto-refresh a NS page while you're logged into your account. When/if they change your password, change it straight back.
FOR MAN WITHOUT EXPENSIVE SUIT, BIG BLACK MERCEDES, AND MASSIVE YACHT, BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS FOR PRETENDING OF BE RICH LIKE BLACK GANGSTER OF AMERICAN CITY WITH GOLD CHAINS OF LOW QUALITY AND JEWELS OF COLORED GLASS. WHEN YOU EXPLAIN USE OF BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS ONLY FOR SHOOT MAN WITH BULLET VEST WITH CARTRIDGE ILLEGAL TO CIVILIAN, THIS MAN HAS NUCLEAR RAGE. WHOLE IDENTITY OF THIS MAN IS SPENT IN PRETEND PISTOL SHOWS HE IS RICH. IS VERY AMUSE.

Hey, Dash, why do they call it a hacksaw? It doesn't hack, that's what I was doing with the knife!
Da orkz is da best.
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Postby Topid » Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:12 am

The Emmerian Unions wrote:[Not a tech person] I believe that:

No, you did not give away your nation. As long as they don't have your nation's password, the nation is safe. You don't need to confirm your nations password to be accepted to the WA.

Right. So if someone gets a wrongly addressed application to the WA, they can click the link and log in one time without a password (and changing the password).
Bears Armed wrote:
Topid wrote:I don't really care about the nation, I just needed another defender puppet in case I need to go on a defender mission... The issue I have is that someone could do this to their main nation. And that would suck. You should probably have to enter a password or something...

Khornate Worshippers wrote:Has the WA accepted them yet? If they haven't, unapply.

Yeah they accepted me.

So if you resign that nation from the WA, wouldn't that automatically invalidate the message that's been sent to the other email?

(CAUTION: writer is not a programmer...)

I mean they accepted my application, not admitted me. I can't resign because I never got in because the email went to the wrong place.

I guess if this happened to someone else they could re-apply and join, which would invalidate the old email. But that would still leave a nation at risk for 12 hours.
Khornate Worshippers wrote:Have a program auto-refresh a NS page while you're logged into your account. When/if they change your password, change it straight back.

I guess someone could do this. Bit extreme though. :p
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Postby Pythagosaurus » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:39 am

If they control the e-mail address listed on your nation, they can get in anyway. And the e-mail address that's used is the one on your nation when the daily update checks WA eligibility, so you must have left it that way for a while. I can make it so you still have to have the same e-mail address when you accept (and/or the password hash check). Other than that, there's nothing we can do to really mitigate the risk. As usual, the best course of action is not to put somebody else's e-mail address in the field.
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