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Sarto Republic of Carpentersville
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Is there an archive of disgraced nations?

Postby Sarto Republic of Carpentersville » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:48 am

I'm trying to look for an archive of disgraced or former nations and I can't seem to find anything!
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Ballotonia
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Postby Ballotonia » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:50 am

There is none.

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Sarto Republic of Carpentersville
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Postby Sarto Republic of Carpentersville » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:53 am

Ballotonia wrote:There is none.

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:( ok thanks

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Lockdownn
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Postby Lockdownn » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:10 am

memberlist.php

The memberlist index is the closest thing I've seen that resembles any sort of "archive".

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Omigodtheykilledkenny
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:34 am

Sarto Republic of Carpentersville wrote:I'm trying to look for an archive of disgraced or former nations and I can't seem to find anything!

NSwiki had listed a bunch of them before it went belly-up two years ago.
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Minoa
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Postby Minoa » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:34 am

It is possible to recreate a list of deleted nations offsite, but it is unclear whether NationStates would allow it: even if so, it is the question of significance or notability on any wiki.

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Postby CoraSpia » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:12 am

Minoa wrote:It is possible to recreate a list of deleted nations offsite, but it is unclear whether NationStates would allow it: even if so, it is the question of significance or notability on any wiki.

-- Minoa

NS mods don't regulate offsight content. Whether ns would allow it would be irrelevant.
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Postby Phydios » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:27 am

Minoa wrote:It is possible to recreate a list of deleted nations offsite, but it is unclear whether NationStates would allow it: even if so, it is the question of significance or notability on any wiki.

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The most the staff could do is ban links to it from NationStates; they can't control offsite content.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:19 am

Minoa wrote:It is possible to recreate a list of deleted nations offsite


Attempting to maintain an accurate list of deleted nations would be virtually impossible for anyone other than mods or admins. I personally delete up to dozens of nations daily. Almost all are deleted for offensive names. I really don't think anyone really cares how many possible variants there are for dick, pussy, shit, and/or fuck in nation names. Nor do we want to immortalize all the variant racist and offensive things about (primarily) blacks and Jews. Then there are adbots, which nobody gives a shit about.

In addition to that, tracking the deaths of JoeNation's 600 spammer puppets or DOSFellow's raider puppets is pretty much meaningless. A lot of times those nations are slapped together out of random letters, and when we remove them, we sometimes kill not only the nation but also all RMB, forum, and telegram evidence.

So what's left are the outlaws that you want to glorify. The people, who for one reason or another, got noticed during their tenure here. That's maybe 1%-5% of deletions, and you still have to pick and choose which ones were "cool" and which ones were merely clueless.

Or you could just use the Boneyard and just check the ones you actually want to try.

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Postby CoraSpia » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:32 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Minoa wrote:It is possible to recreate a list of deleted nations offsite


Attempting to maintain an accurate list of deleted nations would be virtually impossible for anyone other than mods or admins. I personally delete up to dozens of nations daily. Almost all are deleted for offensive names. I really don't think anyone really cares how many possible variants there are for dick, pussy, shit, and/or fuck in nation names. Nor do we want to immortalize all the variant racist and offensive things about (primarily) blacks and Jews. Then there are adbots, which nobody gives a shit about.

In addition to that, tracking the deaths of JoeNation's 600 spammer puppets or DOSFellow's raider puppets is pretty much meaningless. A lot of times those nations are slapped together out of random letters, and when we remove them, we sometimes kill not only the nation but also all RMB, forum, and telegram evidence.

So what's left are the outlaws that you want to glorify. The people, who for one reason or another, got noticed during their tenure here. That's maybe 1%-5% of deletions, and you still have to pick and choose which ones were "cool" and which ones were merely clueless.

Or you could just use the Boneyard and just check the ones you actually want to try.

On a (slightly) related note, why do you sometimes remove all the forum posts of a deleted nation? Their's some rps that simply don't make sense without New Nicksyllvania's contribution.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:42 pm

Coraspia wrote:why do you sometimes remove all the forum posts of a deleted nation?

When a player knows he's not welcome here, but sneaks in anyway to have his say because he's 'more important than site rules', we deny that ability to post. All to often, we see a "you can't stop me" attitude. The fact is, we can. And we do. Post deletion is much more likely in such cases.

Coraspia wrote:Their's some rps that simply don't make sense without New Nicksyllvania's contribution.

I don't recall anything specific about that nation, but if he wasn’t supposed to be here, he's not allowed to make contributions.

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Postby CoraSpia » Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:36 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Coraspia wrote:why do you sometimes remove all the forum posts of a deleted nation?

When a player knows he's not welcome here, but sneaks in anyway to have his say because he's 'more important than site rules', we deny that ability to post. All to often, we see a "you can't stop me" attitude. The fact is, we can. And we do. Post deletion is much more likely in such cases.

Coraspia wrote:Their's some rps that simply don't make sense without New Nicksyllvania's contribution.

I don't recall anything specific about that nation, but if he wasn’t supposed to be here, he's not allowed to make contributions.

He's a bit hard to forget, he was hear for years.

Anyway, he's had some great rps in the past, which are now unsalvageable wrecks because all his posts have disappeared.
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Postby Flibbleites » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:44 pm

Coraspia wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:When a player knows he's not welcome here, but sneaks in anyway to have his say because he's 'more important than site rules', we deny that ability to post. All to often, we see a "you can't stop me" attitude. The fact is, we can. And we do. Post deletion is much more likely in such cases.


I don't recall anything specific about that nation, but if he wasn’t supposed to be here, he's not allowed to make contributions.

He's a bit hard to forget, he was hear for years.
I've been here for years too, and the name isn't ringing any bells for me.

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CoraSpia
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Postby CoraSpia » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:46 pm

Flibbleites wrote:
Coraspia wrote:He's a bit hard to forget, he was hear for years.
I've been here for years too, and the name isn't ringing any bells for me.

Well, maybe he was less wellknown than I thought. New Nicksyllvania. Big player in the slaver/anti-slavery wars. Had an active storefront. Adopted a weird Victorian persona on NSG. Was deleted for saying that black people should get half a vote (which, as he's made it clear that he's a racist previously, would probably not be as harshly dealt with as now, since we're allowed to state unloved opinions.)
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