'Abstain' as an option in WA votes?

[Hiskjriaana]

Does anyone else think this might be a good idea?

[Phydios]

Definitely. I feel like I've seen it suggested before, though, which makes me wonder why it wasn't implemented.

[Lockdownn]

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=101364&hilit=abstain+for+wa

viewtopic.php?p=5308859#p5308859

viewtopic.php?p=6126441#p6126441

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=151162&hilit=abstain+for+wa

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viewtopic.php?f=15&t=170842&hilit=abstain+for+wa

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=179432&hilit=abstain+for+wa

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=203152&hilit=abstain+for+wa

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This has been suggested multiple times all shot down. Not going to happen as far as it looks.

[Caracasus]

That's a shame. Apart from anything else, it'd be nice to be able to say "we have no strong feelings one way or another/we don't want to vote on this" without being bugged by the big red 1 next to the World Assembly link on the menu bar.

[Leutria]

Ya, I have always been in favour of abstaining, so it disappoints me that every time it is brought up it is rejected. I would bet some of the lemming votes are simply because they don't care either way about that proposal and are voting to get rid of the notification.

[Phydios]

I would bet some of the lemming votes are simply because they don't care either way about that proposal and are voting to get rid of the notification.

This is me many times. I haven't looked into the above links yet and don't have time to now, but I can't imagine a reason for rejecting this, besides technical difficulties.

[Flibbleites]

I would bet some of the lemming votes are simply because they don't care either way about that proposal and are voting to get rid of the notification.

And you'd be wrong, the Lemming vote (as a point of interest, a term I originated) have been around a lot longer than the vote notifications.

[Leutria]

I would bet some of the lemming votes are simply because they don't care either way about that proposal and are voting to get rid of the notification.

And you'd be wrong, the Lemming vote (as a point of interest, a term I originated) have been around a lot longer than the vote notifications.

I said some, not all. Even if just an eighth of our lemming are doing it just to get rid of the notification I would be right

Edit: In fact, I don't care about the security council much, I can say from experience 90% of the time I vote in the security council it is a lemming vote to get rid of the notification.

[Minoa]

“Undecided” is the same as abstaining and is the default position for all member countries.

[Leutria]

“Undecided” is the same as abstaining and is the default position for all member countries.

But you still have that annoying notification when you are undecided. I have also heard that some people would like to make it clear they are abstaining and haven't just neglected to vote.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

You could just add an "ignore this vote" button, like we have for daily issues. I do not think abstentions should be counted in the official vote tally.

“Undecided” is the same as abstaining and is the default position for all member countries.

But you still have that annoying notification when you are undecided. I have also heard that some people would like to make it clear they are abstaining and haven't just neglected to vote.

I honestly don't see what's so annoying about it. No one complained about them before the Rift theme. Is it because they're red now?

[Phydios]

You could just add an "ignore this vote" button, like we have for daily issues. I do not think abstentions should be counted in the official vote tally.

But you still have that annoying notification when you are undecided. I have also heard that some people would like to make it clear they are abstaining and haven't just neglected to vote.

I honestly don't see what's so annoying about it. No one complained about them before the Rift theme. Is it because they're red now?

Yes. They were easier to ignore in Century, when they were just text appended to the link name. Now they stick out like a sore thumb, because they're inside sharply contrasting bubbles that are distinctly separate from the WA link.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Maybe my threshold for annoyance is just higher. I always let my issues pile up, and now that the alerts are red it makes no difference, really.

Some voters just wait for WA campaign telegrams and just vote the opposite of what they ask of them. Can't you just do that?

[Neraklos]

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=101364&hilit=abstain+for+wa

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viewtopic.php?p=6126441#p6126441

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=151162&hilit=abstain+for+wa

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=167519&hilit=abstain+for+wa

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=170842&hilit=abstain+for+wa

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=179432&hilit=abstain+for+wa

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viewtopic.php?p=22770094#p22770094

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This has been suggested multiple times all shot down. Not going to happen as far as it looks.

I wouldn't be so sure about that if you read the first thread that you linked you'll notice this:

Yes, I think it's a good idea. Will probably take me a while, though, because that's some annoyingly tangled code, and I'm concentrating on high-return stuff at the moment.

[Lockdownn]

I wouldn't be so sure about that if you read the first thread that you linked you'll notice this:

Yes, I think it's a good idea. Will probably take me a while, though, because that's some annoyingly tangled code, and I'm concentrating on high-return stuff at the moment.

Considering that post was in 2011 either it was forgotten, or it was placed on the back burner.