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Mashoognawa
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I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby Mashoognawa » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:29 am

i am in real life a politically obsessed teenager with more insight on how things work then most other people and teens.

i was upset when i got a issue that said

"far right winged Nazi rally"

this is highly inaccurate as the Nazi regime was a left wing movement.

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Re: I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby Sirocco » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:38 am

Oh god, not this again. Go to your nearest library and do some more reading.

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Re: I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby Unibot » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:55 am

Ever heard of Fascism ? :palm:

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Re: I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby Marcuslandia » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:00 pm

"Far Right" and "Far Left" tend to shift with time. In the last 20 years, "Far whatever" has been used to describe political opponents. The intent is meant to trivialize those opponents by suggesting that they are extremists, and therefore NO ONE should consider them the least bit representative of "the Silent Majority".

At one point, the National Socialists _were_ liberal proponents -- for their time. But once in power, their militant conservatism and pathological intolerance of ANY other political stance re-characterized them as being a Right Wing movement.

So when you consider where the Nazis were on the political spectrum, you must ask, "At what point in time?"
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Re: I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby Xin Han » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:00 pm

Fascism is a third way movement, combining socialism and traditional conservatism. The economy was left while society was a mix of the right and the left.
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Re: I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby Fatatatutti » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:23 pm

Mashoognawa wrote:i was upset when i got a issue that said

"far right winged Nazi rally"

this is highly inaccurate as the Nazi regime was a left wing movement.

You're missing the obvious: The NS issue refers to an NS group who call themselves 'Nazi'. There's no necessary connection with any other 'Nazi' group in RL.

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Mashoognawa
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Re: I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby Mashoognawa » Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:14 am

Unibot wrote:Ever heard of Fascism ? :palm:



i lol'd if you spend the time to learn about fascism and study it, it is indeed a movement of the left it never has nor will be a movement of the right.

but that takes brains to know.

and Neo-nazi's are not right wing, they believe in taking away individual rights and giving rights to groups.(left wing)

i mean these facts are extremely easy to learn there very basic...

i am a political junkie and happen to be a libertarian so bring it son.
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Re: I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby Fatatatutti » Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:39 am

Mashoognawa wrote:i mean these facts are extremely easy to learn there very basic...

i am a political junkie and happen to be a libertarian so bring it son.

You're the one who needs to "bring it", son, :) You need to bring a clean slate to NS. You can't bring the "facts' you thought you knew in RL. If you're going to get upset about right-wing Nazis, how are you going to react to the talking bears?

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Re: I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby Martyrdoom » Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:43 am

Mashoognawa wrote:
Unibot wrote:Ever heard of Fascism ? :palm:



i lol'd if you spend the time to learn about fascism and study it, it is indeed a movement of the left it never has nor will be a movement of the right.

but that takes brains to know.

and Neo-nazi's are not right wing, they believe in taking away individual rights and giving rights to groups.(left wing)

i mean these facts are extremely easy to learn there very basic...

i am a political junkie and happen to be a libertarian so bring it son.


I love the "son" bit. Classic. You're not a Salfordian are you?!
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Re: I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby Marcuslandia » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:24 pm

Mashoognawa wrote:
Unibot wrote:Ever heard of Fascism ? :palm:



i lol'd if you spend the time to learn about fascism and study it, it is indeed a movement of the left it never has nor will be a movement of the right.

but that takes brains to know.

and Neo-nazi's are not right wing, they believe in taking away individual rights and giving rights to groups.(left wing)

i mean these facts are extremely easy to learn there very basic...

i am a political junkie and happen to be a libertarian so bring it son.


Let me guess: In Real Life your political stance is with the Right, so that evil Nazi stuff _must_ be a left-wing ideology.

Nazi Party: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

As for fascism, it is soooo corporatist as to be it's own direction, away from both Left and Right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

[Yeah, yeah. "What makes you think you can trust Wikipedia?" If you want to get into a whole rip-roaring political argument, we can open another thread someplace else and we can bombard each other with sources for a week, and in the end it would just boil down to, "Your sources are crap, biased, and not legitimate! Only those sources _I_ accept are correct -- because I agree with them!"]
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Re: I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby The Emmerian Unions » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:36 pm

Mashoognawa wrote:this is highly inaccurate as the Nazi regime was a left wing movement.


Mashoognawa wrote:and Neo-nazi's are not right wing, they believe in taking away individual rights and giving rights to groups.(left wing)


Nazi-ism is Far Right.

Communism is Far Left.
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Re: I was upset to see inaccuracy.

Postby Erastide » Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:22 pm

If you really want to debate where political ideologies lie, go debate in General. We're playing a game, accept inaccuracies of this nature, it's not a technical glitch.


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