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GA Category change: "Human Rights"»"Human/Sapient Rights"

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GA Category change: "Human Rights"»"Human/Sapient Rights"

Postby Sionis Prioratus » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:40 pm

Why not?

This is so simple I doubt it has never been discussed before, but here it is...

Could also be "Sapient/Human Rights"

With retroactive effect, of course.

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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:51 pm

Sionis Prioratus wrote:Why not?

This is so simple I doubt it has never been discussed before, but here it is...

Could also be "Sapient/Human Rights"

With retroactive effect, of course.

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Universal Rights?

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Postby Slaytesics » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:53 pm

Sionis Prioratus wrote:Why not?

This is so simple I doubt it has never been discussed before, but here it is...

Could also be "Sapient/Human Rights"

With retroactive effect, of course.

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Good idea, make sure to come up with a proposal for this if it gains enough support.
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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:16 pm

Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:
Sionis Prioratus wrote:Why not?

This is so simple I doubt it has never been discussed before, but here it is...

Could also be "Sapient/Human Rights"

With retroactive effect, of course.

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Universal Rights?


I totally get your point, but I'm afraid sapient rights would be expanded to non-sapient animals with an "Universal" nomenclature.

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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:18 pm

What about "Universal Rights"?
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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:37 pm

Arumdaum wrote:What about "Universal Rights"?


Well Uni and Arumdaum, on second look it could be "Universal Rights" but the description of the Category should change to:

"A resolution to improve human and all sapient beings civil rights worldwide."

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Postby Linux and the X » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:19 pm

Why bother saying "human" at all? Presumably humans are considered sapient.
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:53 am

To be honest, OOC, no. I'd rather see a resolution passed telling member nations that they have to treat any non-human sapients within their boundaries as 'human' for the purpose of WA legislation -- unless they have a good reason why a particular law would be inappropriate for a given species, in which case they should try to grant alternative rights of comparable strength instead -- rather than have authors forced to word all proposals so that they would cover every conceivable eventuality in this respect.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:35 pm

this would open a new can of worms, to the point where we would give dogs the right to vote.

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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:03 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:this would open a new can of worms, to the point where we would give dogs the right to vote.


If dogs are sapient, why not?

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Postby Slaytesics » Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:04 pm

How about "rights of self conscious beings" that way it is not completely universal (lets say cats and dogs would not have access to the bill) and it covers all situations for intelligent populations.
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Postby Blind Vengeance » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:50 pm

Or we could just continue to unfairly discriminate against Chimpanzees.


Just sayin'.

But seriously, WHY is this necessary at all?

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Postby Slaytesics » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:53 pm

Blind Vengeance wrote:Or we could just continue to unfairly discriminate against Chimpanzees.


Just sayin'.

But seriously, WHY is this necessary at all?

How is just ONE post possible?
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Postby Enn » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:30 pm

Given the WA is causing enough headaches for the Admins as it is, I'd be in favour of just staying with the status quo - 'Human Rights' being taken as covering other Sapient species/lifeforms/computer programs etc.
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