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Postby TannerFrankLand » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:49 pm

Is it against the rules to APPLY for WA status, but not accept until I resign with my other nation?

So if I wanted to help any region that was invaded, could I apply to WA with a puppet, and only accept (click link in email) when I see an invasion, and after I've resigned from WA with my main nation?

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Re: Another question:

Postby Weylara » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:52 pm

I can't see anything wrong with that... What do the mods and techies reckon?

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Re: Another question:

Postby TannerFrankLand » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:00 am

I may not even be accepted seeing as I would already have a nation in the WA, this one, but if I was accepted, I wouldn't click the link in the email until I had resigned with this naion, so I would never have 2 WA's at one time...
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Re: Another question:

Postby Goobergunchia » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:05 am

Unless the rules have been greatly changed during my break, this tactic is perfectly legal. You're only allowed to have one WA nation at a time -- there's no rule that I'm aware of limiting applicants.

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Re: Another question:

Postby Marcuslandia » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:10 am

The application for the second WA (prior to acceptance) may be viewed as a deliberate attempt to double up.

Think of the flip side:

I'm an invader. I have my WA in one location. I have umpteen puppets in umpteen target regions. ALL of the puppets have WA applications in, and they're just waiting for me to activate them. My team decides to invade that little region over there that has one of my puppets. (It could have been any of the others as well.) I drop my primary WA and accept the WA invitation of the infiltrated puppet. I now have my one and only WA in the one region that my team actually invaded.

Have I broken any rules, as I never had more than one WA active?

Do you want invaders to be able to do this?

I think applying for a second WA should be viewed as intent to have more than one.
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Re: Another question:

Postby Kandarin » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:21 am

This is standard behavior for invaders and defenders and has been for a very long time. If they use the same nation in many missions, it'll become known as an invader/defender and can give away their moves to the other side. So, they'll have puppet(s) ready to go when needed that the other side can't identify. They're called "clean puppets" in that sort of play.
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Re: Another question:

Postby TannerFrankLand » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:22 am

Marcuslandia wrote:The application for the second WA (prior to acceptance) may be viewed as a deliberate attempt to double up.

Think of the flip side:

I'm an invader. I have my WA in one location. I have umpteen puppets in umpteen target regions. ALL of the puppets have WA applications in, and they're just waiting for me to activate them. My team decides to invade that little region over there that has one of my puppets. (It could have been any of the others as well.) I drop my primary WA and accept the WA invitation of the infiltrated puppet. I now have my one and only WA in the one region that my team actually invaded.

Have I broken any rules, as I never had more than one WA active?

Do you want invaders to be able to do this?

I think applying for a second WA should be viewed as intent to have more than one.

Invaders do it all the time, in fact I think they do it just about every raid... that's where I got the idea, but I didn't enjoy my last permaban ( :eek: ) that I got a long time ago for assuming that if other players did somthing I could to... so I thought I'd ask this time. :D
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Re: Another question:

Postby Spartzerina » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:23 am

Invaders can use it... but so can defenders. It's a tactic I've used several times in my defending.

And I say it shouldn't be viewed that way. You never actually have two nations in the WA, so what harm does it do? At least you're not using puppets to gain control of the region.
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Re: Another question:

Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:09 am

Everybody else has pretty much beaten me to it: Multiple applications is legal, but only ONE nation had better have clicked the link in the acceptance email! (In other words, only one of those applicants is permitted in the WA at any given time. So if you wanna click the acceptance link on a second applicant, make sure the first is resigned from the WA first!!)

It is a common tactic used on both sides of the raiding game; by having multiple applicants that are just one click from WA membership, they can arrange rapid response strikes. If one WA nation is ejected from the region, they can resign it from the WA and have a new WA nation active and in the fray within minutes.
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Re: Another question:

Postby TannerFrankLand » Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:14 am

Reploid Productions wrote:Everybody else has pretty much beaten me to it: Multiple applications is legal, but only ONE nation had better have clicked the link in the acceptance email! (In other words, only one of those applicants is permitted in the WA at any given time. So if you wanna click the acceptance link on a second applicant, make sure the first is resigned from the WA first!!)

It is a common tactic used on both sides of the raiding game; by having multiple applicants that are just one click from WA membership, they can arrange rapid response strikes. If one WA nation is ejected from the region, they can resign it from the WA and have a new WA nation active and in the fray within minutes.

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SC #3 ~ Condemn Nazi Europe [SORRY!]
SC #12 ~ Commend Todd McCloud
SC #18 ~ Commend Sedgistan
SC #27 ~ Condemn Unknown
SC #36 ~ Liberate Eastern Europe
SC #51 ~ Commend Fudgetopia
SC #67 ~ Commend Naivetry
SC #71 ~ Repeal Condemn Unknown.
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GA #81 ~ Disaster Preparedness Act
GA #105 ~ Preparing For Disasters
GA #164 ~ Consular Rights
GA #278 ~ Repeal "Right to Privacy"
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