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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:26 am
by Sedgistan
Ballotonia wrote:I'm more concerned with the Founderless tag not being useful information for people, since it also includes all the regions which have a (temporarily?) non-existent founder. One could move there, and then two days later the founder returns... that's not what the new recruit joined up for!

And there's nothing stopping people from moving regions :P Really, I don't see that as different from say the size tags (the region could suddenly grow/shrink), or any of the others (the founder/delegate could decide to change a region's stance).

Improving Wordiness wrote:Nice feature. Founderless tag just paints a target on a region though. Surely this is not needed?
Invaders can find them without giving them an easy jump.

Yep, it will likely make it easier for invaders to find targets (particularly when the advanced search features are added in), but I think it also benefits most people looking for a region. I think it's best to wait and see how it impacts the invader/defender game before deciding if something needs adjusting as a result.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 7:48 am
by Shalmooharej
SalusaSecondus wrote:
Mariatania wrote:Maybe tags like Conserative and liberal, Capitalist and communist?


Created.


How about a tag for Commonwealth? that way the founder doesn't have to add every government type?

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:27 am
by Ballotonia
Since "Independent" is a tag, what about adding "Colony" ? I can think of a few regions I'd put that on. And I'm sure so would invaders.

Ballotonia

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:38 am
by Makiir
Ballotonia wrote:Since "Independent" is a tag, what about adding "Colony" ? I can think of a few regions I'd put that on. And I'm sure so would invaders.

Ballotonia



He already made a post about not creating a "Puppet" tag. and that is what a Colony usually is.

Unless your talking about those regions that are under the control of another region.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:41 am
by Swkoll
Four things:
1. I :hug: Admins
2. Can the Anti World Assembly tag have a hyphen in it?
3. RL Nation specific tags, like this region is for USA or UK or Netherlands people, I know there is a Non-English tag but this would be cool to have tags for regions that are for nations that have a large community on NS.
4. Old region and old nation tags, if the region is X years old it would get this tag and if it contains a Y year old nation it would get another tag.

:bow:

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:45 am
by Libertadograd
Amazing! Great Job!

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:54 am
by German Dragons
I see Communist and Anti-Fascist, but not Nazi or Fascist. Maybe its not a popular subject with people, but if Communism is there, then in the sake of fairness add Fascist/Nazi

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:01 am
by Ballotonia
Makiir wrote:
Ballotonia wrote:Since "Independent" is a tag, what about adding "Colony" ? I can think of a few regions I'd put that on. And I'm sure so would invaders.

Ballotonia



He already made a post about not creating a "Puppet" tag. and that is what a Colony usually is.

Unless your talking about those regions that are under the control of another region.

SalusaSecondus wrote:I don't like encouraging graveyards or puppet dumps, so I don't think I'll create those tags (though other mods will also be looking through this thread). I also don't understand how a a region could travel. What does 'Traveler' mean as a tag?


Salusa was talking about puppet regions: a region filled with puppet nations belonging to one player. There indeed is no point in making a tag for that, since nobody will be looking to join it. And for completeness, a graveyard region is a region where nations can go for the express purpose of dieing due to inactivity and having that event be registered in some way by the founder of that region.

My suggestion is about a colony region: a region under control of another region. Currently I'm seeing embassies being used for that, but that does cause confusion between independent regions having an embassy and such an exchange existing to indicate a different type of relationship. That way, a 'colony' tag would indicate that the region one has an embassy with is the 'controlling' region. One could even argue that doing so would make the Annex feature obsolete, since it would already be possible to indicate the same relationship with an embassy+tag. That should save Admin some time coding :)

Ballotonia

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:17 am
by The Murtunian Tribes
Well, I suppose, but using that system would make it difficult to distinguish which region is the annexer and which are just regualr embassies.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:21 am
by Strathy
Wow, fantastic idea, guys! Well done! :) :clap:

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:23 am
by Big Jim P
Great idea, but (at first glance) none of those tags really describe Hell. I will work on it.

One suggested tag: Chaotic, Password protected(?) ore simply "protected"(?)

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:38 am
by Neoplanta
Firstly, nice idea!

Swkoll wrote:4. Old region and old nation tags, if the region is X years old it would get this tag and if it contains a Y year old nation it would get another tag.


I had the idea for tags of the year of founding. "2009" and such. This one should be automated.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:43 am
by Ermonte
Apart from Founderless, Feeder and tag with a description beside them, how does a region qualify for other tags?

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:44 am
by Swkoll
Ermonte wrote:Apart from Founderless, Feeder and tag with a description beside them, how does a region qualify for other tags?

It doesn't, the regional control can add, change, or remove the other tags.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:51 am
by Reimu
Needs a "dictatorship" and "chill" tag.

But nice idea.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:59 am
by SalusaSecondus
Facist: Created
Religious: Created


Founderless: As I've said, this will stay as it is for now, but we are still thinking about better ways to handle this.

Maximum Tags: While I'm not ruling this out, I'm not going to do this yet. I want to see how people use tags before I implement restrictions.

Tag Sorting: Hmm, I thought I fixed that. I'll go in and take care of that. I like the idea of system tags coming after user-set.

Searching Regions: You can't actually sort things by tag, so that doesn't make sense. (You can sort by all of the others since they have good numeric values.)

Issues: Looking into this.

inviting, closed, gated, commonwealth, colony: Interesting ideas. I'll think about them.

Casual: See Social

Fandom: Interesting. We'll think about it.

"Old" tags: Not yet. It takes time and we'll think about it.

Anti World Assembly: Where does the hyphen go?

Password Protected: This will need to be a system tag, so definitely won't happen soon.

Chaotic: We'll think about it.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:06 am
by Swkoll
Swkoll now presents: The helpful list of requested tags!
(Ones that SS hasn't mentioned yet anyway)

[Tag requested], [reasoning]

Requested tags:
1. Real Nation Based
2. # of Embassy tag
3. Paradise
4. Intellectual
5. RL Nation specific tags, telling that the region is for people in the USA or UK or Netherlands
6. Nazi
7. Dictatorship

General Suggestions:
1. Medium-sized rather than medium
2. Change Anti World Assembly to Anti-World Assembly

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:07 am
by Halcones
I have a suggestion: would it be possible to add the tag information to the daily XML file? This would be very helpful to external NS sites.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:24 am
by Omigodtheykilledkenny
The "w" in NSwiki is lowercase.

edit: does any page in NS actually link to this tag cloud? Because this new function is useless without an easily accessible cloud/index.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:32 am
by Jokolsylvania
We've got "serious" and "silly", why not add "casual" for those somewhere in between?

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:34 am
by Sedgistan
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:edit: does any page in NS actually link to this tag cloud? Because this new function is useless without an easily accessible cloud/index.

The World - at the top it says: "The world contains 91,769 nations in 8,097 regions (tags)."

I believe the intention is to also add it to the 'change region' page.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:35 am
by Celdonia
How about an Anti-Capitalist tag?

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:40 am
by Swkoll
Jokolsylvania wrote:We've got "serious" and "silly", why not add "casual" for those somewhere in between?

We already have the social tag.
Celdonia wrote:How about an Anti-Capitalist tag?

We have communist and socialist, isn't that enough?

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:46 am
by Omigodtheykilledkenny
Sedgistan wrote:The World - at the top it says: "The world contains 91,769 nations in 8,097 regions (tags)."

I believe the intention is to also add it to the 'change region' page.

Yes, 'twould be good.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:48 am
by Jokolsylvania
Swkoll wrote:
Jokolsylvania wrote:We've got "serious" and "silly", why not add "casual" for those somewhere in between?

We already have the social tag.


???

"Casual" and "social" are not nearly equivalent.