Region Tags!

[New South Hell]

See Pragmatic Extremists or Ideology Testing Inc for examples of issue-playing regions. I'm calling them "Game Player" for now, but I'm not sure that's how the tag is intended to be interpreted.

In a similar vein, I suggest Experimental, which applies to almost all of my regions.

Suggestion for game-assigned tag: Active RMB, indicating a high frequency of RMB posts.

Suggestions for user-assigned tags: inviting (or perhaps open or friendly) (meaning, wanting more residents), closed community, gated (you can get in, but you have to ask for the password).

More: politically diverse (or simply diverse), religious (quite different from theocratic, perhaps even Christian, Islamic, Jewish, Atheist and any other religious grouping that regions form around), casual (as an antonym to serious, without implying silly, snarky, etc.), intellectual, fandom (there's a difference between LoTR role playing, for which Fantasy Tech is a good tag, and a region for LoTR fans. Similarly for Future Tech and fans of Star Wars).

Lots of ideas, so little time...

[Denecaep]

Oh, and as for some more tags...

"Raider" definitely. Maybe "armed," "defense alliance," "free trade?"

I'm mainly just thinking about what I would be searching for if I was looking at regions.

I'm not sure I understand these tags (except maybe 'free trade'). How is raider different from invader? (Remember, I'm mostly a techie.) What do these tags mean?

Raider, as in the regions that make up various "region raiders," who go into a region and try to overthrow the delegate. There are many regions like this, so "raider" is a very specific label that goes along with many regions.

As for defense alliance, it shows the regions that will attack if one of their own is attacked.

[New South Hell]

Oh, and one more thing. "Medium" is a bit ambiguous. I suggest that "Medium-sized" would be much clearer.

[Krulltopia]

I won't be creating an anti-recruiter tag since that is the default and doesn't need to be stated. I just don't see what purpose it would serve.

Personally, I would find it useful . On a serious note though, it could be useful for Gargantuan user regions which get frequent RMB posts from particularly stupid RMB recruiters. I don't whether that would actually work as a deterrent or not, it's just a thought.

Other suggestions: could there be a 'Real Nation Based' tag for those many regions based on real life nations/alliances/continents? i.e Japan, Europe etc? It needs a better name, though.

[Lordieth]

- Green Paradise
- Intellectual

Two nice tags to have.

Fantastic new feature. A tag checkbox type search would make 'tag whoring' useless, and would produce targeted results.

[Ballotonia]

could there be a region tag for the number of embassies?

Please no. There already are too many regions out there which will randomly propose to exchange embassies with anybody else. Let's not encourage that. Or encourage creating puppet regions for the specific purpose of boosting embassy count.

Suggestion for game-assigned tag: Active RMB, indicating a high frequency of RMB posts.

Wouldn't that simply encourage spam/bumps on the RMB? Not a good idea, especially since the game will try to remember the RMB forever these days.

Raider, as in the regions that make up various "region raiders," who go into a region and try to overthrow the delegate. There are many regions like this, so "raider" is a very specific label that goes along with many regions.

Yeah, that's already called "invading". Since the early days of the game, that's the name for it. Let's not extend the gameplay invader/defender propaganda war to also argue the naming of tags, ok?

Other suggestions: could there be a 'Real Nation Based' tag for those many regions based on real life nations/alliances/continents? i.e Japan, Europe etc? It needs a better name, though.

Provinces? Cities? And for all languages and spellings? Examples: Netherlands, The Netherlands, Holland, Nederland, and even "Pays Bas" would be possible. All refer to the same Real Life country. It would be a long list, and thus I wonder what the added value would be. Suppose a Dutch player is interested in finding a Dutch region (hey, don't we already have the non-English tag for that?) and somehow manages to not figure out to try the name of ones own country, what good would a gigantic list do of all nations in existence (there are region hawkers who try to get all of them, so they exist), with all the spelling/language variations possible?

My personal preference would be a "Dutch" tag, but I do understand that's probably overly specific

Ballotonia

[Sedgistan]

Just a clarification request: I assume that founder changes to tags also have no cost? Thanks.

There's no influence cost for adding/removing tags - this applies to founders (obviously, since their use of regional controls never has an influence cost) and delegates too.

Raider, as in the regions that make up various "region raiders," who go into a region and try to overthrow the delegate. There are many regions like this, so "raider" is a very specific label that goes along with many regions.

Most people see 'invader' and 'raider' as synonymous, but for some 'raider' means raiding/leaving (as against attempting to hold a region). 'Invader' was chosen because it was the more general term - it encompasses all practices of invading, so would avoid confusion.

[Sedgistan]

I'm more concerned with the Founderless tag not being useful information for people, since it also includes all the regions which have a (temporarily?) non-existent founder. One could move there, and then two days later the founder returns... that's not what the new recruit joined up for!

And there's nothing stopping people from moving regions Really, I don't see that as different from say the size tags (the region could suddenly grow/shrink), or any of the others (the founder/delegate could decide to change a region's stance).

Nice feature. Founderless tag just paints a target on a region though. Surely this is not needed?
Invaders can find them without giving them an easy jump.

Yep, it will likely make it easier for invaders to find targets (particularly when the advanced search features are added in), but I think it also benefits most people looking for a region. I think it's best to wait and see how it impacts the invader/defender game before deciding if something needs adjusting as a result.

[Shalmooharej]

Maybe tags like Conserative and liberal, Capitalist and communist?

Created.

How about a tag for Commonwealth? that way the founder doesn't have to add every government type?

[Ballotonia]

Since "Independent" is a tag, what about adding "Colony" ? I can think of a few regions I'd put that on. And I'm sure so would invaders.

Ballotonia

[Makiir]

Since "Independent" is a tag, what about adding "Colony" ? I can think of a few regions I'd put that on. And I'm sure so would invaders.

Ballotonia

He already made a post about not creating a "Puppet" tag. and that is what a Colony usually is.

Unless your talking about those regions that are under the control of another region.

[Swkoll]

Four things:
1. I Admins
2. Can the Anti World Assembly tag have a hyphen in it?
3. RL Nation specific tags, like this region is for USA or UK or Netherlands people, I know there is a Non-English tag but this would be cool to have tags for regions that are for nations that have a large community on NS.
4. Old region and old nation tags, if the region is X years old it would get this tag and if it contains a Y year old nation it would get another tag.

[Libertadograd]

Amazing! Great Job!

[German Dragons]

I see Communist and Anti-Fascist, but not Nazi or Fascist. Maybe its not a popular subject with people, but if Communism is there, then in the sake of fairness add Fascist/Nazi

[Ballotonia]

Since "Independent" is a tag, what about adding "Colony" ? I can think of a few regions I'd put that on. And I'm sure so would invaders.

Ballotonia

He already made a post about not creating a "Puppet" tag. and that is what a Colony usually is.

Unless your talking about those regions that are under the control of another region.

I don't like encouraging graveyards or puppet dumps, so I don't think I'll create those tags (though other mods will also be looking through this thread). I also don't understand how a a region could travel. What does 'Traveler' mean as a tag?

Salusa was talking about puppet regions: a region filled with puppet nations belonging to one player. There indeed is no point in making a tag for that, since nobody will be looking to join it. And for completeness, a graveyard region is a region where nations can go for the express purpose of dieing due to inactivity and having that event be registered in some way by the founder of that region.

My suggestion is about a colony region: a region under control of another region. Currently I'm seeing embassies being used for that, but that does cause confusion between independent regions having an embassy and such an exchange existing to indicate a different type of relationship. That way, a 'colony' tag would indicate that the region one has an embassy with is the 'controlling' region. One could even argue that doing so would make the Annex feature obsolete, since it would already be possible to indicate the same relationship with an embassy+tag. That should save Admin some time coding

Ballotonia

[The Murtunian Tribes]

Well, I suppose, but using that system would make it difficult to distinguish which region is the annexer and which are just regualr embassies.

[Strathy]

Wow, fantastic idea, guys! Well done!

[Big Jim P]

Great idea, but (at first glance) none of those tags really describe Hell. I will work on it.

One suggested tag: Chaotic, Password protected(?) ore simply "protected"(?)

[Neoplanta]

Firstly, nice idea!

4. Old region and old nation tags, if the region is X years old it would get this tag and if it contains a Y year old nation it would get another tag.

I had the idea for tags of the year of founding. "2009" and such. This one should be automated.

[Ermonte]

Apart from Founderless, Feeder and tag with a description beside them, how does a region qualify for other tags?

[Swkoll]

Apart from Founderless, Feeder and tag with a description beside them, how does a region qualify for other tags?

It doesn't, the regional control can add, change, or remove the other tags.

[Reimu]

Needs a "dictatorship" and "chill" tag.

But nice idea.

[SalusaSecondus]

Facist: Created
Religious: Created


Founderless: As I've said, this will stay as it is for now, but we are still thinking about better ways to handle this.

Maximum Tags: While I'm not ruling this out, I'm not going to do this yet. I want to see how people use tags before I implement restrictions.

Tag Sorting: Hmm, I thought I fixed that. I'll go in and take care of that. I like the idea of system tags coming after user-set.

Searching Regions: You can't actually sort things by tag, so that doesn't make sense. (You can sort by all of the others since they have good numeric values.)

Issues: Looking into this.

inviting, closed, gated, commonwealth, colony: Interesting ideas. I'll think about them.

Casual: See Social

Fandom: Interesting. We'll think about it.

"Old" tags: Not yet. It takes time and we'll think about it.

Anti World Assembly: Where does the hyphen go?

Password Protected: This will need to be a system tag, so definitely won't happen soon.

Chaotic: We'll think about it.

[Swkoll]

Swkoll now presents: The helpful list of requested tags!
(Ones that SS hasn't mentioned yet anyway)

[Tag requested], [reasoning]

Requested tags:
1. Real Nation Based
2. # of Embassy tag
3. Paradise
4. Intellectual
5. RL Nation specific tags, telling that the region is for people in the USA or UK or Netherlands
6. Nazi
7. Dictatorship

General Suggestions:
1. Medium-sized rather than medium
2. Change Anti World Assembly to Anti-World Assembly

[Halcones]

I have a suggestion: would it be possible to add the tag information to the daily XML file? This would be very helpful to external NS sites.