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Mahaj
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Remove No WA Campaigning Tag

Postby Mahaj » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:28 pm

Currently the No WA Campaigning tag is duplicated by the existence of the No GA Campaigning tag and the No SC Campaigning Tag. To make things easier for authors, could the No WA Campaigning Tag be removed, leaving the No GA and No SC ones intact? That way, delegates don't lose out on any choices, and life is made easier for campaigners.
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<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
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Frisbeeteria
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:00 pm

Mahaj wrote:Currently the No WA Campaigning tag is duplicated by the existence of the No GA Campaigning tag and the No SC Campaigning Tag. To make things easier for authors, could the No WA Campaigning Tag be removed, leaving the No GA and No SC ones intact? That way, delegates don't lose out on any choices, and life is made easier for campaigners.

You're technically correct, but the reason for the difference is to provide optionality for players who are only interested in one of the chambers. Campaigners are the only beneficiaries of this, and Delegates lose a bit of freedom of choice. You still would have to expand the and <x> others link if one or the other is hidden. I fail to see how looking for two possible tags is more difficult than looking for just one.

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A mean old man
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Father Knows Best State

Postby A mean old man » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:14 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:You're technically correct, but the reason for the difference is to provide optionality for players who are only interested in one of the chambers. Campaigners are the only beneficiaries of this, and Delegates lose a bit of freedom of choice. You still would have to expand the and <x> others link if one or the other is hidden. I fail to see how looking for two possible tags is more difficult than looking for just one.

It's actually fairly annoying. The way I use these tags when I lobby is by opening both of the lists of regions which use them in different tabs. I have to switch back and forth between the two lists often and it really is a pain in the ass. I've already screwed up once today because of it. If regions would like to establish a no WA campaigning policy that will be very closely followed by lobbyists, they should add both the No GA Campaigning tag and the No SC Campaigning tag to their tags. It is surprising how many regions use the No WA Campaigning tag without also using the No SC Campaigning tag as well. It'd make it a lot easier for lobbyists to avoid accidentally telegramming them because we'd only have one list to worry about watching while we scrolled about, wildly telegramming hundreds of people.
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A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Zaklen
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Postby Zaklen » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:01 pm

On the topic of "No WA Campaigning", I have been campaigning recently, and accidentally telegramed at least one, and possibly more delegates in regions with that tag. Would it be possible to make some sort of exclusion list, so I could ask not to be shown regions with a specific tag?
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A mean old man
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Father Knows Best State

Postby A mean old man » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:05 pm

Zaklen wrote:On the topic of "No WA Campaigning", I have been campaigning recently, and accidentally telegramed at least one, and possibly more delegates in regions with that tag. Would it be possible to make some sort of exclusion list, so I could ask not to be shown regions with a specific tag?


You may find these useful.
No GA Campaigning
No SC Campaigning
No WA Campaigning
You'll have to keep at least two of these open while you're lobbying, though.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Zaklen
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Postby Zaklen » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:15 pm

A mean old man wrote:
Zaklen wrote:On the topic of "No WA Campaigning", I have been campaigning recently, and accidentally telegramed at least one, and possibly more delegates in regions with that tag. Would it be possible to make some sort of exclusion list, so I could ask not to be shown regions with a specific tag?


You may find these useful.
No GA Campaigning
No SC Campaigning
No WA Campaigning
You'll have to keep at least two of these open while you're lobbying, though.


Thank you.
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Mahaj
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:39 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Currently the No WA Campaigning tag is duplicated by the existence of the No GA Campaigning tag and the No SC Campaigning Tag. To make things easier for authors, could the No WA Campaigning Tag be removed, leaving the No GA and No SC ones intact? That way, delegates don't lose out on any choices, and life is made easier for campaigners.

You're technically correct, but the reason for the difference is to provide optionality for players who are only interested in one of the chambers. Campaigners are the only beneficiaries of this, and Delegates lose a bit of freedom of choice. You still would have to expand the and <x> others link if one or the other is hidden. I fail to see how looking for two possible tags is more difficult than looking for just one.

AMOM covered this pretty well. Currently you can use the no WA campaigning tag and not the no GA or no SC, but you can also do no GA or no SC without no WA and its harder because both lists have to be checked. Removing the No WA Campaigning Tag still allows for freedom of choice.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Frisbeeteria
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:21 pm

After consultation with the Hivemind, the "No WA Campaigning" tag has been merged with both the other lists, so that all regions formerly tagged with "No WA Campaigning" now carry both tags. The "No WA Campaigning" tag itself has been removed.

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A mean old man
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Father Knows Best State

Postby A mean old man » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:25 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:After consultation with the Hivemind, the "No WA Campaigning" tag has been merged with both the other lists, so that all regions formerly tagged with "No WA Campaigning" now carry both tags. The "No WA Campaigning" tag itself has been removed.


Woo! Thanks, tech/mod team. That is fantastic.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Sanctaria
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Postby Sanctaria » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:27 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:After consultation with the Hivemind, the "No WA Campaigning" tag has been merged with both the other lists, so that all regions formerly tagged with "No WA Campaigning" now carry both tags. The "No WA Campaigning" tag itself has been removed.

Yay!
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:35 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:After consultation with the Hivemind, the "No WA Campaigning" tag has been merged with both the other lists, so that all regions formerly tagged with "No WA Campaigning" now carry both tags. The "No WA Campaigning" tag itself has been removed.

:hug: :kiss:

Yay!
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Proletaurus
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'Revolutionary'

Postby Proletaurus » Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:08 pm

Tag 'Revolutionary' should be included to tag cloud. There are lot of people whom could easily identify themselves and their regions to that.

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La Vanguardia Revolucionaria
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Postby La Vanguardia Revolucionaria » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:26 pm

Proletaurus wrote:Tag 'Revolutionary' should be included to tag cloud. There are lot of people whom could easily identify themselves and their regions to that.

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Neohippies
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Postby Neohippies » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:17 pm

Anti-Communist tag. How about it? Just coz we also have the anti-fascist...

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Waspeaters
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Postby Waspeaters » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:52 am

There are already tags for NSWiki and Wikistates, so would it not be sensible to add an IIWiki tag?

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Fontoria
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Postby Fontoria » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:30 pm

Diol wrote:I've got a few more tag suggestions:
1. earth-based
2. None-earth
3. rp alliance (to separate it from the general random collections of rpers)
4. Private
5. Militarist
6. activity required
7. other dimention
8. active (and the opposite)
9. anti-communist
10. anti-capitalist (seriously guys, why the hate for fascists?)
11. Anti-general assembly (gotta be politically correct)
12. Colony

I think RP alliance is a great idea. Also while I'm here, I think we should have the tag "superhero" or "comicbook" due to the growing number of comicbook fans.
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Anthem Lyrics: Fontoria greatest country in the world, we kill dogs and we eat seagulls!
We are also a pro-choice nation.
We opose royalism.
We are an anti socialist nation.
We along with our region are based on Mars.
Join my superhero RPG here:
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Postby Fontoria » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:32 pm

Neohippies wrote:Anti-Communist tag. How about it? Just coz we also have the anti-fascist...

Anti-socialist would be better, it would cover more including communism. There should also be anti-conservative, and anti-monarchism or republican.
National anthem: The Speed of Pain by Marilyn Manson
Anthem Lyrics: Fontoria greatest country in the world, we kill dogs and we eat seagulls!
We are also a pro-choice nation.
We opose royalism.
We are an anti socialist nation.
We along with our region are based on Mars.
Join my superhero RPG here:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=199381&p=10904949#p10904949

98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
And help this gentleman gain world domination by putting this is your signiture, screw the bunny!
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Sedgistan
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Anarchy

Postby Sedgistan » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:32 pm


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Fontoria
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Postby Fontoria » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:40 pm

I know, but I jsut wanted to spread the ideaon a more well known thread and see what other MODS think.
National anthem: The Speed of Pain by Marilyn Manson
Anthem Lyrics: Fontoria greatest country in the world, we kill dogs and we eat seagulls!
We are also a pro-choice nation.
We opose royalism.
We are an anti socialist nation.
We along with our region are based on Mars.
Join my superhero RPG here:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=199381&p=10904949#p10904949

98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
And help this gentleman gain world domination by putting this is your signiture, screw the bunny!
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Very Cool

Postby Great Jergania and Jonland » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:35 pm

Very Cool, but you should Revolutionary or Anti-Oppressive.
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Corporate Police State

Postby Crushing Our Enemies » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:37 pm

Great Jergania and Jonland wrote:Very Cool, but you should Revolutionary or Anti-Oppressive.

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Syrakhstan
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Postby Syrakhstan » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:32 pm

What about an automatic tag to display that a region's passworded?

along with one that's not automatic but only becomes an option once the region's been password called something along the lines of "Password Exclusive"

For regions like Ghologoth, and Tetrakon. Where you have to apply before you're allowed entry.
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Postby Galiantus » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:50 pm

I think you meant to say this:

Syrakhstan wrote:What about an automatic tag to display that a region's passworded?



I would also add to this idea that it might be useful to have an invisible* non-passworded tag, so that if you are looking for a region to join or invade without having to apply you don't get all the regions with passwords.

*Invisible tag: not visible on the region itself, but visible in the tag cloud, so that the obvious does not take up extra room.
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Postby Flibbleites » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:10 am

Syrakhstan wrote:What about an automatic telegram to display that a region's passworded?

along with one that's not automatic but only becomes an option once the region's been password called something along the lines of "Password Exclusive"

For regions like Ghologoth, and Tetrakon. Where you have to apply before you're allowed entry.

What, the little padlock that's next to the move to this region button isn't enough?

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Ballotonia
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Postby Ballotonia » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:19 am

I can see value in a new system tag, "Password", to make it easier to search for regions which have one... or limit searches to regions which don't.

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