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Frattastan II
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Postby Frattastan II » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:31 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:Then the Raiders would say they allow recruiting in the WFE, thereby not changing anything I guess.

Correct, which is why we're not going to change it. There are other regions that genuinely use it, and it makes an easy list for recruiters.


The difference is exactly that recruiters would have more difficulty finding regions which allow it. :P
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:48 pm

Ballotonia wrote:Since invaders tend to quite openly invite defenders to try and oust them once they've taken over a region (they hoist their flag, mention themselves in the WFE, list a 'defender kill count', etc...) I think a tag like "Conquered" might be useful for them. But it's really up to the invaders to tell whether or not they'd actually use it.

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That'd be a fun little addition. As a raider I'd support this.
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:51 pm

I'm wondering if that'll be necessary when the Annex feature is eventually added.

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Maltropia
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Postby Maltropia » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:46 am

Sedgistan wrote:I'm wondering if that'll be necessary when the Annex feature is eventually added.


Or they could be used in conjunction. Make it an auto-tag for annexed regions so that it's easier for defenders to find places to liberate. ;)
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:12 am

Sedgistan wrote:I'm wondering if that'll be necessary when the Annex feature is eventually added.


I can assume that Annex is something else than the conquered tag. An annex will cost a significant amount of influence (I hope) and needs quite some time to be established. A 'conquered' is more useful for tag raids. These two potential features caters to two different types of raiders. The tag raiders like TBH will use the conquered tag a lot, while using the Annex sparingly. TNI, with a more imperialistic approach to raiding will probably use Annex more. But that is just my hunch as defender :p

Ofcourse, a 'conquered' tag will make it easy for Defenders to spot the raids. Now this is not a problem for the tag raiders who do it for sport and leave soon after anyway. But the ones who want to stay a long while in a region will probably not want to use it because it then automagically appears on the defenders todo list :)
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Santa Joanna
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Postby Santa Joanna » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:23 pm

Santa Joanna wrote:What about adding the eco-friendly tag? There is quite a few regions which concentrate mostly on environment. You could eventually add industrial on the other side too.


Bump. So nice to be ignored.

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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:28 pm

We don't address every suggestion made. If you want a response, it helps to explain why a tag would be useful, and why it matters to have a tag for it, rather than just have people mention it in the WFE.

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Santa Joanna
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Postby Santa Joanna » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:04 am

There is a plenty of nations whose main goal is to protect the environment. I thought that the reason of adding eco-friendly tag is obvious - it would help them to find regions of like-minded individuals much more easily.

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Postby Welsh Cowboy » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:09 am

Santa Joanna wrote:There is a plenty of nations whose main goal is to protect the environment. I thought that the reason of adding eco-friendly tag is obvious - it would help them to find regions of like-minded individuals much more easily.


To me, this isn't needed:
1. I don't know if there's many regions who fit the description
2. If there are, they certainly aren't a vast number
3. Not all eco-friendly nations have to be in an Eco-friendly region

If every single region or pair of region's themes were put in the tag cloud, there would be such a large cloud no one could use it. What if I set up a Sesame Street region? There shouldn't be a cartoon tag just for that.

If a region wants to be Eco-friendly, in my opinion, they should put it on their WFE.
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Postby Santa Joanna » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:33 am

But there ARE tags like Theocratic, Video Games, Fantasy... These are also quite a niche, but they're really useful, because they give certain groups of nations an opportunity to find specific regions which couldn't be found using any other existing tag.
There's no need to create cartoon tag, Sesame Street could be easily found under "Silly".
But there's an utter lack of tags which are signs of environmental concern. And I assure you, that there's a plenty of regions which would love to use such tag, here's just a few largest examples:
- Forest
- Hippiedom
- Groland
- Deep Blue Planet
- Eladen
- Emeraldise
- Alternative Left
- Green Planet
- The Hill
- Ecotopia
- Ocean
Of course, not every eco-friendly nation wants to be in such region, but looking at these examples, much of them certainly do.
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Postby Retro Lyra » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:39 am

Perhaps we could have an option to add our own tags to our region. For example, if we wanted "ponies" as a tag, we could add it ourself. Of course, there would be the problem of too many tags and ridicolus ones... :unsure:
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Postby Luna Amore » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:40 am

Come on, be serious. Sesame Street would obviously be filed under Puppet Storage. :p

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Postby Santa Joanna » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:56 am

Retro Lyra wrote:Perhaps we could have an option to add our own tags to our region. For example, if we wanted "ponies" as a tag, we could add it ourself. Of course, there would be the problem of too many tags and ridicolus ones... :unsure:


This could be solved easily - only the tags used by at least, for example, 50 regions would be shown in a cloud, and the rest would be in a scrolled list.

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:05 am

Santa Joanna wrote:This could be solved easily - only the tags used by at least, for example, 50 regions would be shown in a cloud, and the rest would be in a scrolled list.

Go ahead and code that for us, willya?

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Postby Santa Joanna » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:50 am

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Santa Joanna wrote:This could be solved easily - only the tags used by at least, for example, 50 regions would be shown in a cloud, and the rest would be in a scrolled list.

Go ahead and code that for us, willya?


I'm not too good at programming, that was just a loose idea. I'm sorry if it's unfeasible, didn't know that.

What about my eco-friendly tag idea - are my arguments still not enough? :P

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Postby Riemstagrad » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:09 pm

i'd like to request the option to remove all tags on a region in one action...

makes it a lot less annoying when cleaning up after some bored invader attached every available tag to a region.
invaders will also not do it anymore if it's not annoying anymore.

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Welsh Cowboy
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Postby Welsh Cowboy » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:20 pm

Luna Amore wrote:Come on, be serious. Sesame Street would obviously be filed under Puppet Storage. :p


True. :lol:
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Postby Ransium » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:22 am

Santa Joanna wrote:But there ARE tags like Theocratic, Video Games, Fantasy... These are also quite a niche, but they're really useful, because they give certain groups of nations an opportunity to find specific regions which couldn't be found using any other existing tag.
There's no need to create cartoon tag, Sesame Street could be easily found under "Silly".
But there's an utter lack of tags which are signs of environmental concern. And I assure you, that there's a plenty of regions which would love to use such tag, here's just a few largest examples:
- Forest
- Hippiedom
- Groland
- Deep Blue Planet
- Eladen
- Emeraldise
- Alternative Left
- Green Planet
- The Hill
- Ecotopia
- Ocean
Of course, not every eco-friendly nation wants to be in such region, but looking at these examples, much of them certainly do.


I guess being from the same region as Santa Joanna it makes sense that our interests are aligned, but I must say I'm surprised at those of you who say that they just can't see a use of an "ecofriendly" tag. I used to spend a long time using probable words like "eco" in the region finder looking for regions with similar environmental goals. And my feeling is the list of regions which would use an "ecofriendly" tag is significantly larger than what Santa Joanna listed. I mean when we have a tag as niche as "steampunk" I find it odd that people would think "ecofriendly" would be too niche (btw steampunk is awesome, I don't mean to criticize steampunk). And yes of course if your an ecofriendly nation you don't have to live in ecofriendly region, but it might be nice for ecofriendly nations to at least know 1) there are ecofriendly regions out there and 2) What there options are as far ecofriendly regions.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:24 am

I also talk to the trees support the idea of an 'Eco-friendly' tag.

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Postby Altai » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:06 pm

I think we should have an eco-friendly tag - we have tags for other political ideologies, why not a 'Green' tag?

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Postby Flibbleites » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:01 pm

All right, fine, Eco-friendly and Industrial tags created. Happy now? >:(




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Postby Shanix » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:02 pm

Flibbleites wrote:All right, fine, Eco-friendly and Industrial tags created. Happy now? >:(




:p

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Postby Maltropia » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:49 am

Shanix wrote:
Flibbleites wrote:All right, fine, Eco-friendly and Industrial tags created. Happy now? >:(




:p

I give you two weeks before someone wants another new tag.


There should be a "Greedy" tag.
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Postby Santa Joanna » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:08 am

Maltropia wrote:
Shanix wrote:I give you two weeks before someone wants another new tag.


There should be a "Greedy" tag.


Flibbleites, thank you very much! Shanix, there's no doubt about that, the thread is quite lively. Maltropia, there's no need to create such tag, "industrial" and "invader" perfectly show both faces of greed ;)

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Postby Errinundera » Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:27 am

Thanks, Flibbleites. Forest became the first region to use the tag. :)
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