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District XIV
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Postby District XIV » Thu May 29, 2014 6:30 pm

How about tags for regions that have received a commendation or condemnation? It would be "Commended" and "Condemned". It would help players find the "good" guys and the "bad" guys without having to search through dozens of SC resolutions or come across them by chance.

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Postby Wind in the Willows » Thu May 29, 2014 7:04 pm

District XIV wrote:How about tags for regions that have received a commendation or condemnation? It would be "Commended" and "Condemned". It would help players find the "good" guys and the "bad" guys without having to search through dozens of SC resolutions or come across them by chance.


That is actually a very good idea.

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Postby District XIV » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:11 pm

A nice bump? As I said before, this is my idea:
District XIV wrote:How about tags for regions that have received a commendation or condemnation? It would be "Commended" and "Condemned". It would help players find the "good" guys and the "bad" guys without having to search through dozens of SC resolutions or come across them by chance.

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Christian Democrats
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:19 am

I think four tags should be removed:

  • IIWiki
  • NSWiki
  • WikiStates
  • Theocratic
I also agree with the suggestion above to add Commended and Condemned tags.
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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:50 am

The wiki-related tags have been removed; what's your justification for thinking the Theocratic one should go?

Regarding Commendation/Condemnation tags, those would be "system" ones - applied automatically. That would need an admin to set up.

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District XIV
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Postby District XIV » Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:40 pm

Understood. I hope an admin sees this.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:38 pm

Sedgistan wrote:The wiki-related tags have been removed; what's your justification for thinking the Theocratic one should go?

It largely overlaps with the Religious tag. Having Religious and Theocratic tags at the same time is like having Capitalist and Free Market, Liberal and Progressive, or Conservative and Traditionalist tags at the same time. There might be slightly different meanings when people use these words, but they are close enough as far as NationStates is concerned that both ought not to be used simultaneously.

Also, being the delegate of a religion-themed region, I've found that the Theocratic tag creates some confusion. What does it even mean?

Our region is run as if it were a theocracy, or our region has a lot of theocracies in it.

The tags, at least in my opinion, are supposed to convey something about a region itself; and I don't know of any medium or large regions, except for Vatican II (a roleplay clergy region), that are run as theocracies.
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GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
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Postby Ballotonia » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:31 am

District XIV wrote:How about tags for regions that have received a commendation or condemnation? It would be "Commended" and "Condemned". It would help players find the "good" guys and the "bad" guys without having to search through dozens of SC resolutions or come across them by chance.


Commended, Condemned, and Liberated have been added as tags. For starters I just manually added them, I'll drop in the code later to update the tags automatically as resolutions are passed.

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Postby District XIV » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:32 am

Thanks.

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Postby Milograd » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:19 am

I can understand why the NSWiki tag was removed, and the same of WikiStates, but II Wiki is used by a significant number of RP regions and it has helped users find each other and collaborate on worldbuilding. What was the reasoning behind the decision to move it?

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:22 pm

Corona Beach wrote:Didn't we used to have the Northern, Southern, Eastern, Western tags? What happened to those?

Could climate-based tags be an option for nations searching for a particular place on the globe? Like "tropical", "desert", "jungle", "forest", "frozen", etc.? Or are there simply too many variables in that subset to possibly add them all?
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:59 pm

Milograd wrote:I can understand why the NSWiki tag was removed, and the same of WikiStates, but II Wiki is used by a significant number of RP regions and it has helped users find each other and collaborate on worldbuilding. What was the reasoning behind the decision to move it?

It was discussed amongst the mods a while ago, and never acted upon until now. If a region uses II Wiki, it should be pretty easy to find on that site.

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Corona Beach wrote:Didn't we used to have the Northern, Southern, Eastern, Western tags? What happened to those?

Could climate-based tags be an option for nations searching for a particular place on the globe? Like "tropical", "desert", "jungle", "forest", "frozen", etc.? Or are there simply too many variables in that subset to possibly add them all?

The N/E/S/W ones were removed as essentially they meant nothing. Climate-based tags would be too detailed - they're meant to be broad descriptors. Plus, as you say, there are too many options to be worth adding.

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Christian Democrats
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:47 pm

Any decision on removing the Theocratic tag?

No need to have Religious and Theocratic tags at the same time.
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GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
^ repealed resolution
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Nullarni
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Postby Nullarni » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:09 pm

Is there any possibility of getting a "realistic" tag, "realism" tag or something like that?

The members of my region did not feel the "serious" tag fit quite right.
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Fontoria
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Postby Fontoria » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:03 am

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Nephmir
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Postby Nephmir » Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:34 am

I don't think a region should be able to have conflicting tags, like "World Assembly" and "Anti-World Assembly" on at the same time; it takes up tag space and means nothing. There are always going to be those FOR the WA and those AGAINST it in a region, and both tags aren't necessary to reflect each; if there is a conflict over choosing one or another, then obviously that region shouldn't even bother placing one on the region rather than using both.

In addition, I feel as if the tag "Offsite Forums" is meaningless, since most regions in NS have one and clearly display it in their World Factbook Entry.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:42 am

Nephmir wrote:In addition, I feel as if the tag "Offsite Forums" is meaningless, since most regions in NS have one and clearly display it in their World Factbook Entry.

I agree completely with this.

To your first point, tags are supposed to be used to search purposes, so if a region wants to attract both WA-interested and anti-WA players, they should be able to indicate both. They're not contradictory either, since being anti-something doesn't necessarily mean they're not interested in it altogether. (To the contrary, they wouldn't have such passionate feelings against it if it didn't interest them.) My region is both World Assembly and Anti-World Assembly.
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Postby The Sapientia » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:59 pm

Would an Executive and Non-Executive delegate tag be helpful?
It may be nice for people who are looking to participate in a regional government where the delegate has power.
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Postby Unibot III » Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:09 pm

I've found the "Offsite Site Forums" tag very helpful, when I've tried to find regions with forum communities. I don't see how it's "useless". There are thousands of regions and the tags helps cut that search down.
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Postby Austria United » Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:18 pm

I noticed the other day that there was a Free Trade tag and thought it would be cool to have an alternative to that. Fair Trade.

These laws made it legal for a manufacturer to enter an agreement whereby the purchasing retailer, the signor, could resell a product only at a prescribed minimum price. Fair Trade

Can this tag be added?

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Postby Misley » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:00 am

The Sapientia wrote:Would an Executive and Non-Executive delegate tag be helpful?
It may be nice for people who are looking to participate in a regional government where the delegate has power.


Agreed that these would be useful tags. It'd help leftist regions determine at a glance if a potential embassy has decentralized government (i.e. Executive Delegate, with less involvement from the founder), for instance.
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Postby Stormaen » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:04 am

Not sure if it's been noted but we still have a NSwiki tag (which has long since went down) but we don't gave an IIwiki tag. Maybe worth changing that? A lot of nations are using IIwiki.
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Postby Stormaen » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:07 am

Misley wrote:
The Sapientia wrote:Would an Executive and Non-Executive delegate tag be helpful?
It may be nice for people who are looking to participate in a regional government where the delegate has power.


Agreed that these would be useful tags. It'd help leftist regions determine at a glance if a potential embassy has decentralized government (i.e. Executive Delegate, with less involvement from the founder), for instance.

Why specifically leftist regions? Many apolitical or rightist regions have regions where the founder has very little (if any) input.

I agree with the idea of non-executive/executive tags, I'm just not following your logic of "help leftist regions" - it would help them all! :P
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Postby Misley » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:14 am

Stormaen wrote:
Misley wrote:
Agreed that these would be useful tags. It'd help leftist regions determine at a glance if a potential embassy has decentralized government (i.e. Executive Delegate, with less involvement from the founder), for instance.

Why specifically leftist regions? Many apolitical or rightist regions have regions where the founder has very little (if any) input.

I agree with the idea of non-executive/executive tags, I'm just not following your logic of "help leftist regions" - it would help them all! :P


I'm not saying it wouldn't help non-leftist regions, but as I'm the (as much as possible, non-executive) founder of the second-largest Communist/Anarchist/Socialist GCR, I'm offering my opinion as it pertains to my experience within that community. I agree that it'd be useful for regions regardless of ideology.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:30 am

Austria United wrote:I noticed the other day that there was a Free Trade tag and thought it would be cool to have an alternative to that. Fair Trade.

These laws made it legal for a manufacturer to enter an agreement whereby the purchasing retailer, the signor, could resell a product only at a prescribed minimum price. Fair Trade

Can this tag be added?

It's getting overly specific. I'm more inclined to remove 'Free Trade' entirely, as it's close enough to 'Capitalist'.
Stormaen wrote:Not sure if it's been noted but we still have a NSwiki tag (which has long since went down) but we don't gave an IIwiki tag. Maybe worth changing that? A lot of nations are using IIwiki.

Tags are for regions, not nations. I'm also under the impression that another NSwiki now exists, hosted by Afforess.

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