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Postby Savedland » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:13 am

An Alternate History and/or Alternate Earth would be quite cool and useful methinks. Many nations are set in Imaginary locations. So maybe this'll help out those who seek to find regions set on our real Earth but in an alternate timeline with varying PODs
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:26 am

Esternial wrote:I forgot to ask about the "International Incidents" tag to identify II RP regions. Has it been shot down or forgotten?

Possible, but don't the dozens of other RP tags cover what someone would be looking for anyway?
Octuagesimo Octavo wrote:Maybe a tag called "Raided" (past-tense), which raiders will attach after they take it.

Doesn't really seem necessary; raiders can leave their mark already.
Savedland wrote:An Alternate History and/or Alternate Earth would be quite cool and useful methinks. Many nations are set in Imaginary locations. So maybe this'll help out those who seek to find regions set on our real Earth but in an alternate timeline with varying PODs

Is this a fairly large demographic, and are there several regions that would use the tag? We've lots of perhaps overly-specific RP tags already, and I'm unwilling to see many more added unless they'd actually be used fairly regularly.

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Postby Esternial » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:34 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Esternial wrote:I forgot to ask about the "International Incidents" tag to identify II RP regions. Has it been shot down or forgotten?

Possible, but don't the dozens of other RP tags cover what someone would be looking for anyway?

With the growing rise of P2TM, some further distinction between the two may be necessary.

Though perhaps the presence of a P2TM tag might no longer require the need for an II tag.

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Postby Felandos » Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:40 am

Sedgistan wrote:Tags aren't added to "balance" out other ones - they're there as a search tool, and as such there should be 1) a reasonable number of people likely to want to search for regions of those type, and 2) a reasonable number of regions that will accurately use the tag.

I'm not seeing "atheist" ticking either box. There seem to be quite a few religion based regions, but only one atheist based one of any significance.


I really can not say anything about how many people would search or use this tag.
But without that tag we will never find out.

How about the tag "non-religious"? This could be used by regions that are not interested in religious topics for any reason, they do not need to be necessarily atheists.
This should increase the number of regions using that tag.

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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:07 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Octuagesimo Octavo wrote:Maybe a tag called "Raided" (past-tense), which raiders will attach after they take it.

Doesn't really seem necessary; raiders can leave their mark already.

And they already have the 'Invader' tag which [at least] TBR already use for that purpose anyway.
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Postby [violet] » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:25 pm

SalusaSecondus wrote:Finally (and most limiting), players can't create tags, yet.

This would be nifty to finally add! Then there wouldn't need to be debates about every tag people want. To keep the Tag Cloud clean, it could be limited to the most used 40 or so, plus important ones like Feeder and Sinker.

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"Fascist" tag Irrelevant?

Postby Desocia » Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:11 pm

I would like to request a tag to be added to this site. It is irrational to encompass all third positionist ideologies in this generic "Fascist" tag. Fascism could be relating to any of the following ideologies as a sort of blanket term:

Italian Fascism, German National Socialism, Spanish Falangism, Portuguese National Syndicalism, The Hungarian Arrow Cross, and The Romanian Legion of the Archangel Michael. Realizing that these are different ideologies and the fact that you cannot include all of them as single tags, I would like a National Socialist tag to be added so that the tag holds a higher relevance to the actual region than the generic notion of the"Fascist" tag.

I think a lot of regions that are tagged "Fascist" are National Socialist and it would instantaneously distinguish National Socialist regions from Fascist regions, as they adhere to, in most cases, totally different doctrines. If you are not Fascist or National Socialist, let me put it this way. Say you were Socialist and there was only a "Communist" tag. How would you feel about that? Or if you were a Democrat and there was only a "Republican" tag. I feel if you enact this proposal, it would better distinguish regions that hold the Fascist tag and it would satisfy more players in the Fascist community.
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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:34 am

That comes under being "overly specific". The fascist tag works; use that instead. We're not adding tags for every little sub-set of an ideology.

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Postby Desocia » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:35 pm

What if we just added a Nationalist tag instead? That would apply to more regions than just Fascist regions, and it would not be as specific as a National Socialist tag. There are plenty of regions out their that aren't Fascist, but are Nationalist.
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Postby Maltropia » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:23 pm

Desocia wrote:What if we just added a Nationalist tag instead?

Why would a region be nationalist?
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Postby Unibot III » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:29 pm

There is however the "regionalist" and "cosmopolitian" descriptions.

Another two are "bigameplayer" and "moderate".
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Postby Christian Democrats » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:35 pm

As the founder of Right to Life, I'm getting tired of people thinking the region is exclusively religious.

As there is already a "religious" tag, will you consider adding a "secular" region tag?
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:33 am

It doesn't seem necessary. A region can be marked as religious (through the tag) or non-religious (through absence of the tag). Anything further can be specified in the WFE.

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The fertility harvest
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region tags inequality

Postby The fertility harvest » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:54 am

How about a feminist region tag?

I operate a strongly feminist region without a corresponding tag. Sexism?

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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:23 am

Put it in your WFE.

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Postby The fertility harvest » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:23 am

Sedgistan wrote:Put it in your WFE.


it seems as though that would remove any necessity for region tags at all. I'd argue the correct course of action is to add a feminism tag or fundamentally remove the androcentric tag system in place today

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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:27 am

You've got your WFE for a reason - to put descriptive text there. Tags are only supposed to be for specific aspects of a region that people are likely to search for, not to describe every little aspect of a region. They're also not added for ideological point-scoring, or to provide some form of "balance" or "equality".

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Postby The fertility harvest » Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:41 pm

Sedgistan wrote:You've got your WFE for a reason - to put descriptive text there. Tags are only supposed to be for specific aspects of a region that people are likely to search for, not to describe every little aspect of a region. They're also not added for ideological point-scoring, or to provide some form of "balance" or "equality".


understood.

however, I want to point out that tags exist for "silly," "snarky," "neutral,"and "sports."

when you look at the issues that are put forth daily in the General Assembly, many are related to feminism and the feminist movement. it's possible i cant tell the snarky issues from the silly.

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Postby The fertility harvest » Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:45 am

That's a pretty snarky cold shoulder. Thank god for my lunchables snark box. I haven't seen this much equality since noah's snark.

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Postby Maltropia » Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:51 pm

The fertility harvest wrote:That's a pretty snarky cold shoulder. Thank god for my lunchables snark box. I haven't seen this much equality since noah's snark.

"Sports" refers to the NSSports RP community, "Neutral" presumably to people with no interest in R/D. Also, it should be noted that two days does not constitute a cold shoulder, nor sexism.
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Postby Nephmir » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:57 pm

There's a tag for "new"... but shouldn't there be system tags that describe regional age? Like "Ancient" for regions created in the early 2000s (say, maybe, a region gets it after 10 years of existence).

Edit: or perhaps "Antiquity"?
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Postby Corona Beach » Sun May 04, 2014 8:53 am

Didn't we used to have the Northern, Southern, Eastern, Western tags? What happened to those?

Could climate-based tags be an option for nations searching for a particular place on the globe? Like "tropical", "desert", "jungle", "forest", "frozen", etc.? Or are there simply too many variables in that subset to possibly add them all?

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Postby Funkadelia » Wed May 28, 2014 8:24 pm

Can you add "Cosmopolitian" and "Regionalist" tags? It seems like they're missing. The gameplay alignment test has just as many users as NSwiki and the terms are as common (if not even more common) in Gameplay as International Federalist or NatSov in the WA.
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed May 28, 2014 11:24 pm

Those are more ways of players identifying themselves than regions doing so. I'm not seeing a need for those tags just yet.

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Postby Unibot III » Thu May 29, 2014 6:11 pm

Well, currently Osiris already does identify as Cosmopolitan in their WFE. I would probably consider adding "Cosmopolitan" to TRR - since we are. I suspect TEP and others would be quick to identify their regions as Regionalist if given the opportunity.
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