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[violet]
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Postby [violet] » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:57 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:Again, pictures are not the issue.

Right. It's words. Billions of words. :)

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Postby New Ziedrich » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:57 pm

[violet] wrote:We have no plans to purge any posts...


You've no idea how happy I am to hear this. Thanks for the effort keeping this place running, by the way!
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Postby My 3rd Floor Flat » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:03 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:
My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:Perhaps in times like this the moderators should implement some contingency measure that slows down certain aspects of the site so that it doesn't get overloaded. God knows what they could do though, maybe deactivate a function that allows pictures to be downloaded from offsite resources and be shown or soemthing.


Again, pictures are not the issue. The NS server doesn't serve up the pictures to begin with. They're served up by whatever server they're stored on, so if I type, for instance:
Code: Select all
[img]http://www.foo.com/img.jpg[/img]
then my browser will contact the http://www.foo.com server to download img.jpg. All the NS server does is send an <img src="http://www.foo.com/img.jpg"> to my browser; it doesn't deal with the actual serving of the picture, since the picture is never stored on the NS servers.


Obviously not, for Violet just afforded us with the answer above.
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Crabulonia wrote:^ Very pleased that 3rd Floor Flat is voting same as I.

3rd floor flat is pretty sharp so you can count yourself lucky.

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Postby Bluth Corporation » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:08 pm

My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:
My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:Perhaps in times like this the moderators should implement some contingency measure that slows down certain aspects of the site so that it doesn't get overloaded. God knows what they could do though, maybe deactivate a function that allows pictures to be downloaded from offsite resources and be shown or soemthing.


Again, pictures are not the issue. The NS server doesn't serve up the pictures to begin with. They're served up by whatever server they're stored on, so if I type, for instance:
Code: Select all
[img]http://www.foo.com/img.jpg[/img]
then my browser will contact the http://www.foo.com server to download img.jpg. All the NS server does is send an <img src="http://www.foo.com/img.jpg"> to my browser; it doesn't deal with the actual serving of the picture, since the picture is never stored on the NS servers.


Obviously not, for Violet just afforded us with the answer above.


Yeah; I'm not convinced you actually read what Violet posted--because if you had, you'd see that there was no mention of pictures.
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Postby My 3rd Floor Flat » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:31 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:
My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:
Obviously not, for Violet just afforded us with the answer above.


Yeah; I'm not convinced you actually read what Violet posted--because if you had, you'd see that there was no mention of pictures.


Actually, if we're going to be upfront about it, I realised I was wrong and simply decided to go out of my way to annoy you because you seemed oddly elitist your dissmissal of my initial supposition for the nature of the forums staggering slowness.
Nadkor wrote: One of the things you'll notice about the BBC is that it gets accused of bias by everyone.

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Crabulonia wrote:^ Very pleased that 3rd Floor Flat is voting same as I.

3rd floor flat is pretty sharp so you can count yourself lucky.

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Postby Zwangzug » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:36 pm

If towing threads to somewhere where they can't be replied to would help things, Sports RP might be a better-than-average place to start. Because of the way tournaments come sequentially, once tournament n in a sport is up and running, the tournament n-1 thread could probably be archived. I'll echo the thanks for a no-purge position.

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Postby Bluth Corporation » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:39 pm

My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:
My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:
Obviously not, for Violet just afforded us with the answer above.


Yeah; I'm not convinced you actually read what Violet posted--because if you had, you'd see that there was no mention of pictures.


Actually, if we're going to be upfront about it, I realised I was wrong and simply decided to go out of my way to annoy you because you seemed oddly elitist your dissmissal of my initial supposition for the nature of the forums staggering slowness.


I'm "elitist" because I point out that the facts contradict your position? I "dismissed" nothing; I considered it and then, after seeing that there were no facts available to support it, pointed out that it was incorrect.
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Postby My 3rd Floor Flat » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:45 pm

Bluth Corporation wrote:
My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:
Actually, if we're going to be upfront about it, I realised I was wrong and simply decided to go out of my way to annoy you because you seemed oddly elitist your dissmissal of my initial supposition for the nature of the forums staggering slowness.


I'm "elitist" because I point out that the facts contradict your position? I "dismissed" nothing; I considered it and then, after seeing that there were no facts available to support it, pointed out that it was incorrect.


Whilst I accept that you were correct and apologise for being wrong on my part It still doesn't mean you can simply be so mechanically... dissmissive of me in your attitude.

Come on now chap, let's get a bit emotive! You could have said, "Hey now there you silly sausage, it's not X because Y = Z + A, see now?" As opposed to, "You are wrong because Y + Z = X, terminate [/user] [/thread]"
Nadkor wrote: One of the things you'll notice about the BBC is that it gets accused of bias by everyone.

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Crabulonia wrote:^ Very pleased that 3rd Floor Flat is voting same as I.

3rd floor flat is pretty sharp so you can count yourself lucky.

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Postby [violet] » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:27 pm

Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.

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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:22 pm

[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.


That my friend, is sig-worthy. :)

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Postby New Spartzerina » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:23 pm

Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.


That my friend, is sig-worthy. :)

Indeed, it is.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:41 pm

New Spartzerina wrote:
Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.


That my friend, is sig-worthy. :)

Indeed, it is.

Well, so much for my not sigging quotes. That was just far too much win for such a short post. :lol2:
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:29 am

I think that makes it four people that have sigged [violet] so far.

[violet] wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:Again, pictures are not the issue.

Right. It's words. Billions of words. :)

Already discarding common words, right?

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Postby My 3rd Floor Flat » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:16 am

[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.


Sorry, Forum Text Code mystery's get me all hot and bothered.
Nadkor wrote: One of the things you'll notice about the BBC is that it gets accused of bias by everyone.

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Crabulonia wrote:^ Very pleased that 3rd Floor Flat is voting same as I.

3rd floor flat is pretty sharp so you can count yourself lucky.

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Postby JuNii » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:11 am

[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.

Sigged!
on the other hand... I have another set of fingers.

Unscramble these words...1) PNEIS. 2)HTIELR 3) NGGERI 4) BUTTSXE
1) SPINE. 2) LITHER 3)GINGER 4)SUBTEXT

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Postby [violet] » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:03 pm

Gauntleted Fist wrote:
[violet] wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:Again, pictures are not the issue.

Right. It's words. Billions of words. :)

Already discarding common words, right?

Well, it needed to figure out which were common words, so those got processed even though they weren't indexed. The index itself, excluding common words, is 610,000 words, and 31 million word-to-post relationships, for 1.6GB. Which is not enormous, but it gets processed every time a post is made (or modified, or deleted), which is often.

The good news is that turning this off dropped our disk load from crippling to almost nothing, so we seem to have nailed the problem. I will trial a new search engine tomorrow.

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Postby Gates Kein » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:30 am

Thank you [violet]. What would we do without you?

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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:06 pm

[violet] wrote:
Gauntleted Fist wrote:
[violet] wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:Again, pictures are not the issue.

Right. It's words. Billions of words. :)

Already discarding common words, right?

Well, it needed to figure out which were common words, so those got processed even though they weren't indexed. The index itself, excluding common words, is 610,000 words, and 31 million word-to-post relationships, for 1.6GB. Which is not enormous, but it gets processed every time a post is made (or modified, or deleted), which is often.
Extremely often, I assume.

[violet] wrote:The good news is that turning this off dropped our disk load from crippling to almost nothing, so we seem to have nailed the problem. I will trial a new search engine tomorrow.
Yay. I'll sit back and quietly hope that it reduces the "strain".

Gates Kein wrote:Thank you [violet]. What would we do without you?

We'd be annoying the Hell out of Max, Salusa, and Pyth a lot more.
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Postby Fighter4u » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:01 pm

JuNii wrote:
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.

Sigged!


Second sigged.
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.


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Postby My 3rd Floor Flat » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:18 pm

Fighter4u wrote:
JuNii wrote:
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.

Sigged!


Second sigged.


Why is everyone sigging something that is indirectly referring to somethign directly related to me! :?
Nadkor wrote: One of the things you'll notice about the BBC is that it gets accused of bias by everyone.

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Crabulonia wrote:^ Very pleased that 3rd Floor Flat is voting same as I.

3rd floor flat is pretty sharp so you can count yourself lucky.

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Postby New Spartzerina » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:20 pm

My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:
Fighter4u wrote:
JuNii wrote:
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.

Sigged!


Second sigged.


Why is everyone sigging something that is indirectly referring to somethign directly related to me! :?

Because it was a post of WIN!
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Postby My 3rd Floor Flat » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:31 pm

New Spartzerina wrote:
My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:
Fighter4u wrote:
JuNii wrote:
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.

Sigged!


Second sigged.


Why is everyone sigging something that is indirectly referring to somethign directly related to me! :?

Because it was a post of WIN!


Alas, the humanity :lol2:
Nadkor wrote: One of the things you'll notice about the BBC is that it gets accused of bias by everyone.

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Crabulonia wrote:^ Very pleased that 3rd Floor Flat is voting same as I.

3rd floor flat is pretty sharp so you can count yourself lucky.

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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:27 pm

My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:
My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:I point the blame at Forum 7's traffic.

At the moment, F7 has 57,200 posts going back 45 days, or an average of 1271 posts a day, 52 posts an hour, 0.8 posts a minute

General has 584,057 posts going back 250 days, or an average of 2336 posts a day, 97.5 posts an hour, 1.6 posts a minute--twice the rate of F7.

II has, since the beginning of the new forums, averaged about 0.66 posts a minute.

This doesn't take into account views, but it seems reasonable to assume that views are roughly proportional to posts. So F7 seems to only be creating slightly more load on the server than II, and half that of General.

Now, yes, this is a fairly simple metric. But it's the only one I have access to--which means it's the only one you have access to too; so there is no basis for your claim.


Your missing the content though

F7 is heavy on quote pyramids, pictures (which are then quoted, people don't *snip* in there often remember), so it stands to reason that a single thread like "your favourite anime character" containing possibly dozens of dozens of pictures would put an unproportional strain to it's relative size. Which is already quite... impressive.


I knew that thread was evil! D:
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Postby Topid » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:33 pm

I'm not sure if these glitches have been reported yet, but:

Lots of text and stuff at the top of the index page (occured everytime page was loaded for about thirty seconds.)

Avatars went away for a while.

(I assumed these problems were linked to this funny business that is going on. If it wasn't please move this to a new thread.)
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Postby [violet] » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:37 pm

Yep, that was me upgrading the board in preparation for a new search backend. Now complete and all should be well.

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