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Postby Islamic Mujahideen » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:39 pm

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Islamic Mujahideen wrote:I got tapermonkey + the link for github but i have no idea how to enable it.
Please help.

First, make sure you've got ‘Tampermonkey’. I wouldn't trust installing a ‘Tapermonkey’ in my browser. ;​)

You should just be able to (once you've installed Tampermonkey) browse to the GitHub link. Tampermonkey should ask you if you want to install the userscript.

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Postby South Jarvis » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:19 pm

Tada! Fully decentralized regional newspapers! (0.0a12+)

  1. Create a new dispatch. The content is irrelevant.
  2. On the page for the newly created dispatch, and in the bottom right corner, click ‘Edit →as Newspaper’. Edit things!
  3. Note the ID of the newspaper dispatch, which can be found in the URL, e.g. ‘280039’.
  4. Go to the ‘LibreNS++’ regional settings dispatch, and in the bottom right corner, click ‘Edit → as Regional Settings’. Input the newspaper dispatch.
  5. Done!

An example can be found on the LibreNSpp Test Region.

Newspapers support basic BBCodes: [b], [i], [u], [img], [img=WxH], [size=FONTSIZE], [quote].

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Postby Enfaru » Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:18 pm

South Jarvis wrote:Tada! A user-friend editor for regional settings!

Instructions
  1. Create a Dispatch and title it ‘LibreNS++’. The content of the dispatch is irrelevant.
  2. On the Dispatch page, go to the bottom right corner and click ‘Edit → as Regional Settings’. You should be presented with a slightly modified editor interface, with fields for ‘Founder Title’, ‘Delegate Title’ and so on.
  3. Edit these fields. The ‘Text’ field should automatically update as you type.
  4. Save the Dispatch.
  5. Pin the Dispatch to your region.
  6. Done!


I don't appear to have the option: "As Regional Settings". What gives?

I've installed Greasemonkey, I've downloaded the stable version and implemented it into Greasemonkey (it was point click and it auto installed) but nothing has apparently changed. I checked Greasemonkey and the script is apparently active.
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Postby Communist Victoria » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:17 pm

Okay, so we download Greasemonkey/tampermonkey and then libreNS++, yes?
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Postby Indian Empire » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:21 pm

South Jarvis wrote:Programming battle, begin! (Not that our aims are entirely the same, or that I value speed over quality) May the best NS++ successor… succeed!

First order of business: infinite RMB scroll, because let's face it, that's the number one feature of NS++.


Could you make it supported for tablets, id appreciate it.
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0.0a13

Postby South Jarvis » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:07 pm

I can gladly announce to everyone the long overdue release of LibreNS++ 0.0a13. This release removes all code-loading from GitHub, removing the possibility for LibreNS++ to automatically download and execute malicious code from any update server (a la the NS++ botnet).

This release also fixes a bug in which posting to an RMB would occasionally result in ‘This request failed a security check’ errors, and removes support for LibreNS++ newspapers (which were never fully implemented in the stable release, anyway) in preparation for compatibility with NS++ regional settings.

It is strongly recommended that all users of older version of LibreNS++ update to this version, in particular due to the fixing of the code-loading vulnerabilities.

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Postby Hobbesistan » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:29 pm

South Jarvis wrote:I can gladly announce to everyone the long overdue release of LibreNS++ 0.0a13. This release removes all code-loading from GitHub, removing the possibility for LibreNS++ to automatically download and execute malicious code from any update server (a la the NS++ botnet).

This release also fixes a bug in which posting to an RMB would occasionally result in ‘This request failed a security check’ errors, and removes support for LibreNS++ newspapers (which were never fully implemented in the stable release, anyway) in preparation for compatibility with NS++ regional settings.

It is strongly recommended that all users of older version of LibreNS++ update to this version, in particular due to the fixing of the code-loading vulnerabilities.

Is this really needed now that NS++ is powered by NationStates staff itself?
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Postby South Jarvis » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:30 am

Hobbesistan wrote:Is this really needed now that NS++ is powered by NationStates staff itself?

Afforess is still actively involved in the development of NationStates++ (and indeed, appears to be the primary developer), and as such, some users are still boycotting NationStates++.

I myself use LibreNS++, and given that others also use it, there's no reason for me to cease updating it at this time.
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Postby Hobbesistan » Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:41 am

South Jarvis wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Is this really needed now that NS++ is powered by NationStates staff itself?

Afforess is still actively involved in the development of NationStates++ (and indeed, appears to be the primary developer), and as such, some users are still boycotting NationStates++.

I myself use LibreNS++, and given that others also use it, there's no reason for me to cease updating it at this time.


The servers are owned/operated by Max at this point.
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Postby Eluvatar » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:19 am

Hobbesistan wrote:The servers are owned/operated by Max at this point.


This is not entirely accurate at the moment. It's understandable that such a misunderstanding may exist as little has been said publicly on this subject.

My understanding is that NationStates.net owns the DNS for NationStatesPlusPlus.net but the actual (virtual) servers on which NationStatesPlusPlus.net is running are still under Afforess' remit for the time being. (I do also have access to them by [violet]'s say, as does [violet]). Also relevant are the changes to the FAQ in the NS++ topic I have just made, largely adding information on this very subject.

At this time a great deal of my time applied to NS++ is concerned with understanding changes being made by Afforess and learning how to maintain the system.

I will not be developing features for NS++ at the same pace at which Afforess has in the past. Once things are less in flux, I intend to encourage other programmers interested in NS++ to contribute (using pull requests).

I hope this post is informative. :ugeek:
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Postby Indian Empire » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:07 pm

Any idea if this works on mobile? I might be interested.
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Postby South Jarvis » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:26 pm

Indian Empire wrote:Any idea if this works on mobile? I might be interested.

Userscript apps OilCan and TamperMonkey are available for Android (not sure about iOS). I haven't tested running LibreNS++ on them yet, but it should work theoretically.

EDIT: I've tried installing LibreNS++ (following the same method as for desktop) using Tampermonkey for Android and it seems to work. Please note that this method will cause NationStates to use the desktop layout, which may be unsuitable for devices with smaller screens.
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Postby Sacara » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:59 am

Ehhh... NS++ is WAYYYY better.
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Postby South Jarvis » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:04 am

Sacara wrote:Ehhh... NS++ is WAYYYY better.

Of course. NationStates++ has had years more time to mature, and has has a large amount of infrastructure and support behind it. Any attempt to make a browser extension ‘better’ than NationStates++ in such a short period of time is futile, and as such, that is not my intention with LibreNS++.
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0.0a15 and Android release

Postby South Jarvis » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:03 pm

With the release of version 0.0a15 comes an official Android app for LibreNS++!

To install, simply make sure you have enabled Unknown Sources for your Android device and point your Android browser to the release APK. Download and open the APK file, and follow the instructions to install the LibreNS++ app!

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Postby Kingston-Atlantis » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:38 am

Quick question: if I use this, can I still access the NS++ Regional News and special WA titles as before?
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Postby Indian Empire » Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:20 pm

I downloaded and looks weird on mobile... question though.

Since I downloaded this for android, would the extension go on to my PC too, or would I have to download seperately for my PC?

EDIT: Never mind, I installed NS++ for my PC.
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Postby Hobbesistan » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:00 pm

Kingston-Atlantis wrote:Quick question: if I use this, can I still access the NS++ Regional News and special WA titles as before?

No, at least the news one as it uses NS++ servers
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Postby South Jarvis » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:37 am

Hobbesistan wrote:No, at least the news one as it uses NS++ servers

This is correct, however compatibility with NationStates++ regional settings and newspapers is one of my top priorities right now. I hope to implement this as soon as I can, which should be some time this or next week.

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Postby United States of Natan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:43 pm

How is this different or better than NS++ (besides not being made by Afforess), which, by the way is now run by NS staff?
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Postby Geanna » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:55 pm

South Jarvis wrote:
Sacara wrote:Ehhh... NS++ is WAYYYY better.

Of course. NationStates++ has had years more time to mature, and has has a large amount of infrastructure and support behind it. Any attempt to make a browser extension ‘better’ than NationStates++ in such a short period of time is futile, and as such, that is not my intention with LibreNS++.


LibreNS++ is more of a convenient option to NS++ - Since I'll avoid using NS++ until Aff is off of the development of it.
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Postby United States of Natan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:57 pm

Geanna wrote:
South Jarvis wrote:Of course. NationStates++ has had years more time to mature, and has has a large amount of infrastructure and support behind it. Any attempt to make a browser extension ‘better’ than NationStates++ in such a short period of time is futile, and as such, that is not my intention with LibreNS++.


LibreNS++ is more of a convenient option to NS++ - Since I'll avoid using NS++ until Aff is off of the development of it.

Is it better than NS++ though? And is it compatible with it?
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Postby Geanna » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:02 pm

United States of Natan wrote:
Geanna wrote:
LibreNS++ is more of a convenient option to NS++ - Since I'll avoid using NS++ until Aff is off of the development of it.

Is it better than NS++ though? And is it compatible with it?


After Aff's little show there, LibreNS++ and NSlash were created - Jarvis' LibreNS++ isn't as good, as NS++ has had more development, and my NSlash was cancelled after it was decided that Violet would eventually take NS++ over. [Making our project redundant] - Jarvis' programme doesn't have as many security concerns, [since he's given no reason to give me suspicion]. Alas, the use of either NS++ and LibreNS++ settles down to your take on Afforess' behaviour, and whether or not you'd trust either tool over the other.
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Postby United States of Natan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:05 pm

Geanna wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:Is it better than NS++ though? And is it compatible with it?


After Aff's little show there, LibreNS++ and NSlash were created - Jarvis' LibreNS++ isn't as good, as NS++ has had more development, and my NSlash was cancelled after it was decided that Violet would eventually take NS++ over. [Making our project redundant] - Jarvis' programme doesn't have as many security concerns, [since he's given no reason to give me suspicion]. Alas, the use of either NS++ and LibreNS++ settles down to your take on Afforess' behaviour, and whether or not you'd trust either tool over the other.

Seeing as how Violet has taken over NS++, I have little reason not to trust it. But is LibreNS++ comparable with NS++?
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Postby Geanna » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:21 pm

United States of Natan wrote:
Geanna wrote:
After Aff's little show there, LibreNS++ and NSlash were created - Jarvis' LibreNS++ isn't as good, as NS++ has had more development, and my NSlash was cancelled after it was decided that Violet would eventually take NS++ over. [Making our project redundant] - Jarvis' programme doesn't have as many security concerns, [since he's given no reason to give me suspicion]. Alas, the use of either NS++ and LibreNS++ settles down to your take on Afforess' behaviour, and whether or not you'd trust either tool over the other.

Seeing as how Violet has taken over NS++, I have little reason not to trust it. But is LibreNS++ comparable with NS++?


I try to avoid being subjective on options - Since I imagine you want my honest opinion, it goes two ways, [Since I'll be subjective]

One; In my own opinion, NS++ is a better tool, it has more features and is further developed, it is more aesthetically pleasing, and functional, and its options exceed LibreNS++. [On this, I'd choose NS++ (Sorry Jarvis)]

Two; I dislike Afforess, and was upset at his behaviour - being a programmer myself, there are things that I feel are acceptable guidelines on how one should act, and Afforess stepped over the line, and I am suspicious of NS++ until he is off and away from its development completely. Between offering 'dictionary attacks' to password break regions, and having in the past used scripts in NS++ to unfairly bump and vote on certain dispatches [IIRC] - He should've been permanently removed from NS. I see him being allowed to continue and be around NS++ as a security risk, and refuse to use it.

So on one hand, yes NS++ is better than LibreNS++, on the other hand, I see Afforess as a security risk.
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