No Recruitment Telegrams?

[Taylor Swift Rocks]

I am a resident of the Rejected Realms and I intend to stay there. However I am getting sick of the constant recruitment telegrams that I am receiving. Would we be able to put something on our nation page to say to nations that we are a native and do not want to receive recruitment telegrams?

[Unibotian WASC Mission]

Put it in your motto?

"Spammers will be shot on site."

[SouthPetoria]

Put it in your motto?

"Spammers will be shot on site."

^^

[New Olwe]

Put it in your motto?

"Spammers will be shot on site."

This would be a waste of a perfectly good motto, in many nations' cases. Especially since when one hears the word "spammer", the first thing they think of is "forums"... that particular motto would fly right over the heads of the people it's intended to warn off.

At any rate, I'm opposed to making people change their mottos if they don't want recruitment messages... a unique motto goes a long way toward establishing a unique nation, and the game would just be less fun for many people if this was the only way to deal with this particular problem.

[The Republic of Lanos]

I suggest this:

TG the recruiter back telling him:
1. stop sending me spam or i'll report you
2. stop sending me these things and i'll ignore you.

#2 should work

[Kandarin]

I am a resident of the Rejected Realms and I intend to stay there. However I am getting sick of the constant recruitment telegrams that I am receiving. Would we be able to put something on our nation page to say to nations that we are a native and do not want to receive recruitment telegrams?

Seconding this.

Yes, I realize that telegram recruiting from the feeders + Lazarus + the RR is necessary to the growth of player-created regions. That's an unquestionable truth of NS. But another such truth is the fact that the game regions have communities of their own that are just as worthwhile. The game really ought to recognize this, and the constant deluge of recruiting telegrams is a major hindrance to those communities. It's hard to convince people to stay when they know they'll be swamped with telegrams from every little region on the map even if they stay for years.

That said, it's entirely possible to get rid of the most obnoxious spam issues without actually preventing user regions from recruiting. RBM recruiting, for example, is completely worthless. It denies feeder residents the use of their RMB while doing nothing to get recruits (since new nations don't read the RMB, since the RMB is covered with spam...). Recruiting of older nations is likewise worthless. If a nation has grown to a billion citizens and resisted all of the "very special offers" that have been sent its way, the next one doesn't have much of a chance either. The only method that gets results (and does it ever get results) is recruiting of genuinely new nations.

It wouldn't hurt recruiters any, and would help feeder citizens immensely, if there were some way to attain enough seniority to opt out. Perhaps this could be tied to population; since only nations under a certain age respond at a rate worth the time spent to recruit them, perhaps those over that age could be exempted. Or if you wanted to be really elegant and kill multiple birds with one stone, you could have a do-not-recruit tag that pops at a certain level of Influence. But if the game is to acknowledge that the game regions and their residents have worth, the massive problem of recruiting spam must be addressed.

[New Olwe]

The only method that gets results (and does it ever get results) is recruiting of genuinely new nations.

As someone who runs a player-created region, The Conclave, and only recruits new nations, I can attest to this. And I also agree with much of the rest of what Kandarin said, though I have no direct reply to make to any of it and therefore snipped it.

[Eternal Life with God]

Change your motto to"No Recruitment Please"

[Kandarin]

Change your motto to"No Recruitment Please"

I shouldn't have to sacrifice my motto (which I am rather fond of) to keep recruiters at bay and make it clear once and for all that I am not 'tired of life in the Rejected Realms'.

[Todd McCloud]

NS needs a place on their nation for badges. I think this would be a good idea: We're given a small space somewhere on our nation page where we can input different badges, like right next to where the WA member badge would be.

We could have different badges, like "don't recruit" or "don't telegram for SC proposals" or something. But the badges themselves must be fully customizable, like we can upload them. Certain restrictions apply, such as they can only be so long, so wide, take up a certain amount of kb, etc. Allowing five badges per nation at the very most should work. And we could make our own badges as well, to distribute and kind of grow a sense of community.

How's that?

[New Olwe]

NS needs a place on their nation for badges. I think this would be a good idea: We're given a small space somewhere on our nation page where we can input different badges, like right next to where the WA member badge would be.

We could have different badges, like "don't recruit" or "don't telegram for SC proposals" or something. But the badges themselves must be fully customizable, like we can upload them. Certain restrictions apply, such as they can only be so long, so wide, take up a certain amount of kb, etc. Allowing five badges per nation at the very most should work. And we could make our own badges as well, to distribute and kind of grow a sense of community.

How's that?

Ooh, I like that idea too. Pretty awesome suggestion, Todd McCloud.

[Todd McCloud]

Hmm... lemme move this to a separate thread.

[James Bluntus]

NS needs a place on their nation for badges. I think this would be a good idea: We're given a small space somewhere on our nation page where we can input different badges, like right next to where the WA member badge would be.

We could have different badges, like "don't recruit" or "don't telegram for SC proposals" or something. But the badges themselves must be fully customizable, like we can upload them. Certain restrictions apply, such as they can only be so long, so wide, take up a certain amount of kb, etc. Allowing five badges per nation at the very most should work. And we could make our own badges as well, to distribute and kind of grow a sense of community.

How's that?

I see why you are getting commended.

[Kalibarr]

Well you shouldn't be getting recruitment telegrams, I have always recommended that people only recruit nations that have recently founded/re-founded/ejected, not everyone who's in the top ten of the WA report &/or has posted on the message boards,(on of my puppets had like three recruitment telegrams from one guy t=once simply for saying something on the RMB).

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I am thinking about an "opt out" option in the nation settings section that would put a line between the nation's location and influence, that says, in red or blue: "This nation does not wish to receive recruitment telegrams".

[Taylor Swift Rocks]

^^^

Seconded.

[Allrule]

^^^

Seconded.

And thirded. (I have a puppet in the South Pacific that I intend to keep there, and I do not appreciate the mass recruitment TGs it is certain to receive.)

[Allrule]

viewtopic.php?p=1205525#p1205525

The mods are so out of touch with the community it's not even funny.

[Ashaven]

The only method that gets results (and does it ever get results) is recruiting of genuinely new nations.

As someone who runs a player-created region, The Conclave, and only recruits new nations, I can attest to this. And I also agree with much of the rest of what Kandarin said, though I have no direct reply to make to any of it and therefore snipped it.

My recruitment plan is to watch the starting regions, and just TG'ing a new nation whenever one is founded.

[Arumdaum]

^^^

Seconded.

And thirded. (I have a puppet in the South Pacific that I intend to keep there, and I do not appreciate the mass recruitment TGs it is certain to receive.)

And fourthed.

[Essonne]

It seems that after a couple days the telegrams stopped. I know I received a deluge whenever I joined, but after two or three days I stopped getting them. I just deleted them on site. Annoying, but NS has always been like this.

[Ardchoille]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1205525#p1205525

The mods are so out of touch with the community it's not even funny.

Try again, Allrule, I was talking about WFEs in regions, which is where the other thread had moved to by the time I came along. If a Delegate is getting snowed under with WA proposals, obviously he can put up a "No WA TGs", and, as Pyth said, any recruitment in the player-created regions is illegal.

I hadn't seen this thread and agree that it's a different problem for individual nations who want to stay in the Feeders. Like Essone, my experience is that the TGs stop after a few days as regular recruiters get to recognise that I have no intention of moving. (Plus, given the names of my depressed, oppressed puppets, it's highly likely that nobody wants to recruit them anyway.)

In the meantime, players in a Feeder who are getting repeat recruitment TGs from the same source have enough reason to put in a GHR, with the added attraction that you can make a Game Moderator's life miserable, too. I realise this doesn't help with the problem of volume, but I'll leave that angle to Pyth.

[Kingsley Bedford]

I am a resident of the Rejected Realms and I intend to stay there. However I am getting sick of the constant recruitment telegrams that I am receiving. Would we be able to put something on our nation page to say to nations that we are a native and do not want to receive recruitment telegrams?

I think there should be a list in each feeder region of the nations who do not wish to recieve recruitment telegrams.

[Ardchoille]

I think there should be a list in each feeder region of the nations who do not wish to recieve recruitment telegrams.

Nice! Since it's something the Feeder Delegates could do themselves, they'd be able to filter no-recruitment requests, too -- not sure whether that'd be good or bad. So maybe all it needs is a larger (or duplicate) WFE entry panel in Feeders, one part region description, the second part recruitment-refusers?

I guess this would make life harder for recruiters. From my perspective, given the number of recruitment complaints we already get, that wouldn't be a bad thing, but I can see the regions that are trying to grow won't share my glee.

[Kingsley Bedford]

I think there should be a list in each feeder region of the nations who do not wish to recieve recruitment telegrams.

Nice! Since it's something the Feeder Delegates could do themselves, they'd be able to filter no-recruitment requests, too -- not sure whether that'd be good or bad. So maybe all it needs is a larger (or duplicate) WFE entry panel in Feeders, one part region description, the second part recruitment-refusers?

I guess this would make life harder for recruiters. From my perspective, given the number of recruitment complaints we already get, that wouldn't be a bad thing, but I can see the regions that are trying to grow won't share my glee.

That is true.

But if we had a list for each feeder region that says

Don't send to these nations....
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that way we can recruit without sending to those who don't wish for recruitment TG's. I understand it's hard work but even if there was a game option that allows us to choose whether or not we can accept recruitment TG's