NationStates++ | Browser Extension for NationStates

[The Sapientia]

We need a 'Move All Puppets To [region]' Button. That would make moving switchers so much easier.

[Shadow Afforess]

We need a 'Move All Puppets To [region]' Button. That would make moving switchers so much easier.

Planned for the next release:

Right now I am looking at these sorts of features for puppet management:

• Multiple lists of puppets you can switch between (only the "active"/default list is shown in the puppet switcher, but you can switch the active list, and view all lists in the management page)
• Exporting/Importing lists of puppets
• View last login/region/wa on all puppets in table form
• View new telegrams in any puppet inbox
• And then, "Batch" actions (aka, an action that is applied for every puppet in the list):
  
  • Login
  • Dismiss issues
  • Move regions
  • Change password
  • Suicide (change pass to random pass, delete email from settings, and remove from puppet list, making it unrecoverable)

All of this will be available w/o requiring you to switch out of your main nation.

Absolutely. I will not charge for NS++ features.

cool! can't wait to use something besides my region's stupid zetaboards.
So what of the "regional Assembly" feature?

Basically it will be a tool to allow regional administrators to more easily run a democratic region. It's entirely optional, but will let them hold votes on legislation with their members. Voting membership will be customizable, and it will act like the World Assembly does, but for regions. So you could commend your region members, write region-specific laws, etc.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Aren't you removing the suicide feature?

[United States of Natan]

We need a 'Move All Puppets To [region]' Button. That would make moving switchers so much easier.

Planned for the next release:

Right now I am looking at these sorts of features for puppet management:

• Multiple lists of puppets you can switch between (only the "active"/default list is shown in the puppet switcher, but you can switch the active list, and view all lists in the management page)
• Exporting/Importing lists of puppets
• View last login/region/wa on all puppets in table form
• View new telegrams in any puppet inbox
• And then, "Batch" actions (aka, an action that is applied for every puppet in the list):
  
  • Login
  • Dismiss issues
  • Move regions
  • Change password
  • Suicide (change pass to random pass, delete email from settings, and remove from puppet list, making it unrecoverable)

All of this will be available w/o requiring you to switch out of your main nation.

cool! can't wait to use something besides my region's stupid zetaboards.
So what of the "regional Assembly" feature?

Basically it will be a tool to allow regional administrators to more easily run a democratic region. It's entirely optional, but will let them hold votes on legislation with their members. Voting membership will be customizable, and it will act like the World Assembly does, but for regions. So you could commend your region members, write region-specific laws, etc.

do you think on the regional forums you could make a way to prevent someone from having multiple forum accounts?

[[violet]]

So any Tom, Dick, or Larry with Javascript experience can inspect the code, what's to stop them from changing it just enough to allow malware to slip in? I don't know that I would use this until the problem I just addressed were taken into consideration and some sort of randomizer (?) added that would change the code at random and hence prevent extensions that can steal personal or login information

His concern is completely unfounded. Github is not where NS++ code comes from when it runs on your machine. Github is a development tool, where I have an account. Your machine downloads from either Google or NationStatesPlusPlus.net (depending on your browser) with a secure connection. Changing the code on Github does not affect what code runs on a user machine. It's a mirror of the codebase. Like in real life, drawing on a mirror does not make the object reflected in reality change.

If it helps to hear it from an NS admin, the above is completely correct. In no way does Afforess having a public repository create a risk of other people injecting code into NS++.

[[violet]]

It's entirely optional, but will let them hold votes on legislation with their members.

Is this any different to Polls? The main complaint I've heard about Polls as a tool for intra-regional voting is that sometimes regions want to enforce a one-vote-per-human-being policy, but without requiring WA membership. I wonder if you are going to try to identify individual players somehow in order to provide this.

[Shadow Afforess]

It's entirely optional, but will let them hold votes on legislation with their members.

Is this any different to Polls? The main complaint I've heard about Polls as a tool for intra-regional voting is that sometimes regions want to enforce a one-vote-per-human-being policy, but without requiring WA membership. I wonder if you are going to try to identify individual players somehow in order to provide this.

Not much different to be honest, but right now polls lack a few critical features that make them insufficient for that use. Secret ballots & the ability to manually exclude/include nations in the poll are fairly important.

Aren't you removing the suicide feature?

Yeah, I just was quoting my previous statement.

[Luna Amore]

We need a 'Move All Puppets To [region]' Button. That would make moving switchers so much easier.

I believe that would be illegal according to OSRS:

Regional Happenings Spam: Going in and out of a region while filling the regional event's board with departing and arriving messages. Also deliberately spamming the wrong password to attempt to enter a region, as this will also cover the regional happenings section. This includes doing so with more than just one of your nations and is not allowed. Use the Additional Information check-boxes on the Getting Help Page to capture abuses.

and more importantly

It is illegal to use a tool to automatically cause something in the gameworld to change, other than your own nation. Examples include: moving regions, sending a telegram to another nation, banning a nation from a region, creating a nation, and endorsing another nation. These are referred to below as "restricted actions."

[Shadow Afforess]

We need a 'Move All Puppets To [region]' Button. That would make moving switchers so much easier.

I believe that would be illegal according to OSRS:

Regional Happenings Spam: Going in and out of a region while filling the regional event's board with departing and arriving messages. Also deliberately spamming the wrong password to attempt to enter a region, as this will also cover the regional happenings section. This includes doing so with more than just one of your nations and is not allowed. Use the Additional Information check-boxes on the Getting Help Page to capture abuses.

and more importantly

It is illegal to use a tool to automatically cause something in the gameworld to change, other than your own nation. Examples include: moving regions, sending a telegram to another nation, banning a nation from a region, creating a nation, and endorsing another nation. These are referred to below as "restricted actions."

The happening spam is not relevant to me, deliberate spam is up to the user's intent, not mine. Moving regions in an automated fashion is not illegal as long as users will have to click a button for each nation.

I am intimately familiar with the scripting rules. Have a little faith.

do you think on the regional forums you could make a way to prevent someone from having multiple forum accounts?

I'm not 100% sure right now. I agree it is important to be able to allow administrators to avoid puppet votes, but I am unsure what, if anything, I will do to combat it.

[Hobbesistan]

Newest NS++ backend update just jacked up SerinApprox, i'll have a fix up soon™

[Misley]

It's entirely optional, but will let them hold votes on legislation with their members.

Is this any different to Polls? The main complaint I've heard about Polls as a tool for intra-regional voting is that sometimes regions want to enforce a one-vote-per-human-being policy, but without requiring WA membership. I wonder if you are going to try to identify individual players somehow in order to provide this.

I would immediately start using Polls for legislative voting in The Internationale if it was possible to hold multiple polls at the same time and if checkboxes (as opposed to radio buttons) were added as an option. As it stands, since we vote as a region on several things at once (embassies, delegates, and other matters as they come up) it's impossible to use Polls for serious legislative questions.

[The Ancient World]

Do you have an idea when the Regional Assembly feature will be up?

[Shadow Afforess]

Do you have an idea when the Regional Assembly feature will be up?

I don't give out ETAs.

[United States of Natan]

So how will the regional assembly work, exactly?

[Kringalia]

Basically it will be a tool to allow regional administrators to more easily run a democratic region. It's entirely optional, but will let them hold votes on legislation with their members. Voting membership will be customizable, and it will act like the World Assembly does, but for regions. So you could commend your region members, write region-specific laws, etc.

[The Ancient World]

Do you have an idea when the Regional Assembly feature will be up?

I don't give out ETAs.

OK, thanks.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

OP, have you ever considered adding fun trivial things down the road?

[The Unsullied]

So one of the nice features in NS++ is the regional population graph.

Have you considered making a similar one for the World page?

I suggest 2 graphs to be up there, one for the entire number of nations in the world, the other for the entire number of regions.

[United States of Natan]

I have a great idea: something, like a tag that says Online or Offline to indicate whether or not a nation is online. that way, we can actually tell if a nation is logged in or not.

[The Republic of Lanos]

I have a great idea: something, like a tag that says Online or Offline to indicate whether or not a nation is online. that way, we can actually tell if a nation is logged in or not.

The forums have that thing already. Plus, NS++ has that too.

[[violet]]

So one of the nice features in NS++ is the regional population graph.

Have you considered making a similar one for the World page?

I suggest 2 graphs to be up there, one for the entire number of nations in the world, the other for the entire number of regions.

We do generate those charts internally, but I don't really see the point of putting them on the World page. It wouldn't be very interesting as those numbers have been stable for a few years.

[Shadow Afforess]

So one of the nice features in NS++ is the regional population graph.

Have you considered making a similar one for the World page?

I suggest 2 graphs to be up there, one for the entire number of nations in the world, the other for the entire number of regions.

We do generate those charts internally, but I don't really see the point of putting them on the World page. It wouldn't be very interesting as those numbers have been stable for a few years.

I agree with [violet]. I actually even included the 30 day information for the world population stats data for a long time (before finally removing it for performance reasons), but it wasn't used for the chart. The data is just not that interesting.

However in the interest of transparency, I will pull a copy of all the world population stats into a CSV when I get home from work...

[Ambassador Sapientia]

Is there anyway to calculate better update times using NS++?

[Misley]

Is there anyway to calculate better update times using NS++?

Not using NS++, no.

[Shadow Afforess]

Is there anyway to calculate better update times using NS++?

Ok, to be clear, there is no way to calculate the update times. Even NationStates does not know ahead of time exactly when an update will occur. All tools that try to do this are predicting.

NationStates++ uses the laziest method of calculation, statistical analysis. Looking at when the update occurred in the past, calculate the average time at when updates took place over the last week, and use that.

Some other tools try and predict based on the update order. Regions update in a particular order, every time. If you know how long the regions before to update, you have the time for the next update. This is also guesswork in terms of how long updates take per nation & region.

Update times are *not* meant as a serious R / D tool. You should use triggering instead. Triggering involves placing a puppet nation that has a pending issue legislation occurring in a region that updates immediately before the region you want to know the update time for. You watch the puppet nation and when the legislation passes, you move into the region that updates after the puppet's region. Right now, the only way to know the update order is to look at the XML in the NS daily region dumps, but the next version of NS++ will have the update order number in the tooltip hover over the update time.

Hopefully this helps.