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Postby Thalsyer » Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:59 am

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Thalsyer wrote:I have a question about the recruitment system used on NS++. I assume that the blue bar that turns red and says that I am telegramming certain nations is the recruitment system used by NS++. What I wish to know is whether or not is if any telegrams sent via API are supposed to show up in my telegrams "sent items" category or not.


Telegrams sent via the API will appear in the delivery report of the telegram you used "tag:api" as the recipient of. They do not appear as individual sent items, but are summarized in one mass telegram.


Where can I see it? If I can see it myself. I am trying to determine if I am actually sending out API telegrams or not.
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:41 am

Thalsyer wrote:
Shadow Afforess wrote:
Telegrams sent via the API will appear in the delivery report of the telegram you used "tag:api" as the recipient of. They do not appear as individual sent items, but are summarized in one mass telegram.


Where can I see it? If I can see it myself. I am trying to determine if I am actually sending out API telegrams or not.

The way it works is whoever sent the original API TG is the one sending it, but you just run the scripts when you're using NS.
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:02 am

How is the new update going?

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Postby Shadow Afforess » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:12 am

Aden Protectorate wrote:How is the new update going?


I encountered some delays due to a new complication. NationStates++ is now spread across multiple servers, which requires some changes in the backend to ensure people don't get old/stale results back. This is why I hate ETA's.
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:18 am

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Aden Protectorate wrote:How is the new update going?


I encountered some delays due to a new complication. NationStates++ is now spread across multiple servers, which requires some changes in the backend to ensure people don't get old/stale results back. This is why I hate ETA's.

That's unfortunate. When should it be out then? Also when you update it would I get the NS++Feature Author Badge for the feature I suggested and you approved (the pop. record)?

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Postby Shadow Afforess » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:37 am

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Shadow Afforess wrote:
I encountered some delays due to a new complication. NationStates++ is now spread across multiple servers, which requires some changes in the backend to ensure people don't get old/stale results back. This is why I hate ETA's.

That's unfortunate. When should it be out then? Also when you update it would I get the NS++Feature Author Badge for the feature I suggested and you approved (the pop. record)?


I don't give ETA's. I will update the badge at release.

If you're curious what exactly I am talking about in terms of changes, this covers basic server designs: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/ ... pplication

When NationStates++ started, I used #1. About 6 months later, I moved to #2. I am now moving to #3.
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:40 am

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Aden Protectorate wrote:That's unfortunate. When should it be out then? Also when you update it would I get the NS++Feature Author Badge for the feature I suggested and you approved (the pop. record)?


I don't give ETA's. I will update the badge at release.

If you're curious what exactly I am talking about in terms of changes, this covers basic server designs: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/ ... pplication

When NationStates++ started, I used #1. About 6 months later, I moved to #2. I am now moving to #3.

Okay thanks. I still can't believe you get them for only 5$ a month!

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Postby Shadow Afforess » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:47 am

Aden Protectorate wrote:Okay thanks. I still can't believe you get them for only 5$ a month!


Computers are a commodity now. Hardware is so cheap. Thank Moore's law.
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Postby Comradeland » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:34 pm

I love the addon.

I am curious if there is any plans or way to add "folders" of puppets? For example, right now I have 1 bubble "Puppets" which I can scroll over and get a list of my many dozens of puppets. It would be awesome to be able to add a "Vacation Puppets" folder or custom folders so I could organize my puppets a bit easier.

Just curious if this might be planned for the future.

Thanks for the great work!

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Postby Shadow Afforess » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:52 pm

Comradeland wrote:I love the addon.

I am curious if there is any plans or way to add "folders" of puppets? For example, right now I have 1 bubble "Puppets" which I can scroll over and get a list of my many dozens of puppets. It would be awesome to be able to add a "Vacation Puppets" folder or custom folders so I could organize my puppets a bit easier.

Just curious if this might be planned for the future.

Thanks for the great work!

Yes, a page where you can multiple "lists" of puppets is in the works.
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Postby United States of Natan » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:34 pm

its weird, on both my region's newspaper page on NS and the one on the NS++ site, sometimes my articles appear, and sometimes they don't.
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Postby Shadow Afforess » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:56 am

United States of Natan wrote:its weird, on both my region's newspaper page on NS and the one on the NS++ site, sometimes my articles appear, and sometimes they don't.


It is because of this: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=269464&start=1300#p20332391

And why there is no update yet.
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Postby Tlik » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:18 am

Can you add keyboard shortcuts? For example "m" on a region's page to move to that region, or "e" on a nation's page would endorse that nation if possible, "d" dossier, etc.

They should probably be disabled by default, though, lest people do things they weren't expecting in odd places.

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Postby Shadow Afforess » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:18 am

Tlik wrote:Can you add keyboard shortcuts? For example "m" on a region's page to move to that region, or "e" on a nation's page would endorse that nation if possible, "d" dossier, etc.

They should probably be disabled by default, though, lest people do things they weren't expecting in odd places.


I agree they would be handy, I just need to think about how best to implement them, as you are right, I do not want to find my nation suddenly in Osiris due to a pet wandering on my laptop.
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Postby Port blood » Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:02 am

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Tlik wrote:Can you add keyboard shortcuts? For example "m" on a region's page to move to that region, or "e" on a nation's page would endorse that nation if possible, "d" dossier, etc.

They should probably be disabled by default, though, lest people do things they weren't expecting in odd places.


I agree they would be handy, I just need to think about how best to implement them, as you are right, I do not want to find my nation suddenly in Osiris due to a pet wandering on my laptop.


I agree,it works well for image sites,but not here >.> though a option to rearrange or put certain buttons at the top in a on-website-toolbar would be nice
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Postby Tlik » Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:15 am

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Tlik wrote:Can you add keyboard shortcuts? For example "m" on a region's page to move to that region, or "e" on a nation's page would endorse that nation if possible, "d" dossier, etc.

They should probably be disabled by default, though, lest people do things they weren't expecting in odd places.


I agree they would be handy, I just need to think about how best to implement them, as you are right, I do not want to find my nation suddenly in Osiris due to a pet wandering on my laptop.

Would two-key shortcuts work? It decreases the chance that the random button presses of a cat will coincide with anything actually useful. Alternatively, an easy-to-access button (or even a keyboard shortcut!) that turns off shortcuts so that those with pets can make their browsing somewhat more petsafe.

Of course, there is the argument that those with pets can just turn their shortcuts off... :P

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Postby Shadow Afforess » Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:38 am

Tlik wrote:
Shadow Afforess wrote:
I agree they would be handy, I just need to think about how best to implement them, as you are right, I do not want to find my nation suddenly in Osiris due to a pet wandering on my laptop.

Would two-key shortcuts work? It decreases the chance that the random button presses of a cat will coincide with anything actually useful. Alternatively, an easy-to-access button (or even a keyboard shortcut!) that turns off shortcuts so that those with pets can make their browsing somewhat more petsafe.

Of course, there is the argument that those with pets can just turn their shortcuts off... :P


Maybe instead of a keyboard setting, a keyboard mode. If you shift-alt-tilde, a prompt comes up and asks "do you want to enable keyboard mode", and to accept, you have to type "yes" or some sort of confirm message. Then keyboard mode is enabled, just for the active window, and when the active window loses focus, it disables.
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Postby Tlik » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:00 am

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Tlik wrote:Would two-key shortcuts work? It decreases the chance that the random button presses of a cat will coincide with anything actually useful. Alternatively, an easy-to-access button (or even a keyboard shortcut!) that turns off shortcuts so that those with pets can make their browsing somewhat more petsafe.

Of course, there is the argument that those with pets can just turn their shortcuts off... :P


Maybe instead of a keyboard setting, a keyboard mode. If you shift-alt-tilde, a prompt comes up and asks "do you want to enable keyboard mode", and to accept, you have to type "yes" or some sort of confirm message. Then keyboard mode is enabled, just for the active window, and when the active window loses focus, it disables.

The problem with that is it's now significantly slower than everything else, at least if it's working on a per-page (or even per-active-window - I switch tabs and windows constantly while I'm waiting for things to happen). I mean, currently it's not terrible, but it can be improved. If I wanted keyboard mode, I'd need to shift-alt-tilde, type yes, hit enter, then I could start typing my keyboard shortcuts, and then when I check the next tab over I'll have to do it all over again the next time.

Unless per-active-window refers to the browser window, as opposed to each tab? I may be wrong, I haven't done much extension work in a while.

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Postby Port blood » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:28 pm

Feature request:
adding notes to certain words on forum/RMB/WFE with a rollover
for example rolling over TBR i could put "The Black Riders,raiders" on mouseover
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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:35 pm

For some reason, all the articles on my regional newspaper appear shuffled.

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Postby Shadow Afforess » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:50 pm

Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:For some reason, all the articles on my regional newspaper appear shuffled.

I am not sure what that means.

Port blood wrote:Feature request:
adding notes to certain words on forum/RMB/WFE with a rollover
for example rolling over TBR i could put "The Black Riders,raiders" on mouseover


I don't think many people would find that useful.
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Postby Holy Trek » Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:41 pm

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You trying to say I have none? I'll have you know I use random passwords for EVERY site I log into, including this one, and I change those passwords every six months >:(

Call me when you get that randomizer thing I mentioned added to the software. Until then, I plan to stick to the tried-and-true method. And if that makes me an a** and a loser, then so be it >:(


Well you're still wrong unfortunately and apparently completely ignorant to how this all works. And anyone with a bit of common sense can understand how this generally works. So here's how things work if you still can't understand it:

Yes, NS++ is open source and every "Tom, Dick, or Larry" can inspect it and change it. However, whatever changes they make apply to their computers and their computers alone. There is no magical way that makes their changes affect others and someway how steal information from other people.

Only Affores can change the source code and make it apply to everyone. Tom, Dick, or Larry can't do that.

Other than the fact that Affores has no reason to make changes such that to steal private information from people, the code, once again, is open source. So if he does anything malicious, everyone can see what he did. Nothing is hidden.


No matter how many times its explained to me.....all I can see is flim-flammery. I'm not comfortable using something that someone can use to piggyback their way to hacking my information (in-game and real-life), so sorry...but no.
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Postby Shadow Afforess » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:04 am

Holy Trek wrote:No matter how many times its explained to me.....all I can see is flim-flammery. I'm not comfortable using something that someone can use to piggyback their way to hacking my information (in-game and real-life), so sorry...but no.


Just because you do not understand a particular topic doesn't mean anyone else is instantly wrong. It is your lack of understanding, so it your responsibility to educate yourself.

I realize not everyone has the time or resources to go learn every topic they are unfamiliar with, and if you don't trust this extension, not using it is definitely the safer route. However, I would prefer you stop spreading FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) about my work, since you are unqualified to judge it.
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Postby Elke and Elba » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:02 am

Shadow Afforess wrote:I realize not everyone has the time or resources to go learn every topic they are unfamiliar with, and if you don't trust this extension, not using it is definitely the safer route. However, I would prefer you stop spreading FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) about my work, since you are unqualified to judge it.


Then who is?

Rather than just using the "FUD" argument to stave off attacks just because you don't want to answer it, instead it'll help a long way to assuage any form of niggling fears people to have.

Rebutting with stuff with lacks substance only leads to people believing that you are only avoiding any criticism and suggests that NS++ isn't as open as it seems.
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Postby Shadow Afforess » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:06 am

Elke and Elba wrote:
Shadow Afforess wrote:I realize not everyone has the time or resources to go learn every topic they are unfamiliar with, and if you don't trust this extension, not using it is definitely the safer route. However, I would prefer you stop spreading FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) about my work, since you are unqualified to judge it.


Then who is?


Users can judge it, Developers can judge it. But he wasn't even either of those two groups.

Elke and Elba wrote:Rather than just using the "FUD" argument to stave off attacks just because you don't want to answer it, instead it'll help a long way to assuage any form of niggling fears people to have.


Several pages of the thread was consumed explaining concepts and answering his questions. He didn't take the time to read or understand the answers. He didn't ask questions to clarify the answers. He didn't ask for more information so he could learn. I can't force feed knowledge to someone.

Elke and Elba wrote:Rebutting with stuff with lacks substance only leads to people believing that you are only avoiding any criticism and suggests that NS++ isn't as open as it seems.


I am not rebutting. This is the end of a long chain of conversations with an individual who is resistant to understanding. I love discussing NS++, even the bad or ugly parts, and am happy to do so. But when people just make ultimatums, there is nothing left to discuss.

If you think there is a better way I could present the security/trust aspects to new users, I am open to suggestions. I know my explanation is not very good, and outsider opinions can often reveal things I've overlooked.
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