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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:22 pm
by The Corparation
Leningrad Union wrote:This is what happens when Max Barry uses eSecureData for web hosting. Honestly, just use OVH or Digital Ocean.

Its not a web hosting issue, its a "We never thought they'd make that many posts when we made the forum" issue.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:22 pm
by Uieurnthlaal
Jolthig wrote:
Grenartia wrote:So this has nothing to do with the mass TG everybody got earlier?

I never got a mass TG. :/

Why didn't I get your mass TG? I'm in your ...

OK. There's no way I'm going on with this. For the sake of my sanity, and that of everyone else on NSG.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:23 pm
by Esternial
The amount of outrage and madness is proportional to what one would expect to have when running out of toilet paper when you're on the toilet.

Thus, as logic dictates: NS is a toilet.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:24 pm
by The Blaatschapen
Esternial wrote:The amount of outrage and madness is proportional to what one would expect to have when running out of toilet paper when you're on the toilet.

Thus, as logic dictates: NS is a toilet.


*flushes you*

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:24 pm
by Jolthig
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Esternial wrote:The amount of outrage and madness is proportional to what one would expect to have when running out of toilet paper when you're on the toilet.

Thus, as logic dictates: NS is a toilet.


*flushes you*

:lol:

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:24 pm
by San Leggera
Esternial wrote:The amount of outrage and madness is proportional to what one would expect to have when running out of toilet paper when you're on the toilet.

Thus, as logic dictates: NS is a toilet.

It's been that way since its advent.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:26 pm
by Topid
I would like to know how Max intends to make up for the damaging effects of the sunlight, which some of us had to experience because of this? :p

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:27 pm
by Horusland
Am I the only one who didn't get worried at all?
We're lucky to have such great mods, technicians, etc. :)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:27 pm
by Bezombia
United Islands of the Pacific wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
The servers you're posting on have only been around for 4 years.


Are we still on the same servers? Or have they been changed?


They were changed four years ago.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:28 pm
by Esternial
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Esternial wrote:The amount of outrage and madness is proportional to what one would expect to have when running out of toilet paper when you're on the toilet.

Thus, as logic dictates: NS is a toilet.


*flushes you*

Four of a kind, I win.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:29 pm
by The Blaatschapen
Esternial wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
*flushes you*

Four of a kind, I win.


Banhammer, I win.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:30 pm
by Esternial
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Esternial wrote:Four of a kind, I win.


Banhammer, I win.

You're a sore loser, sheep.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:31 pm
by United Islands of the Pacific
HorusLand wrote:Am I the only one who didn't get worried at all?
We're lucky to have such great mods, technicians, etc. :)


I didn't know anything was wrong.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:31 pm
by Great Nepal
Bezombia wrote:What happens when someone makes the 18,446,744,073,709,551,615th post and you can't go any higher? Do you just call it quits and start Nationstates 2 again?

Assuming linear growth, that is 288,230,375 years from now. I would be pretty disappointed if we still relied on internet rather than using some kind of neurological links to play NS. :p

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:32 pm
by Coffee Cakes
Esternial wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Banhammer, I win.

You're a sore loser, sheep.


just shear him. :twisted:

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:32 pm
by Frisbeeteria
Bezombia wrote:
United Islands of the Pacific wrote:Are we still on the same servers? Or have they been changed?

They were changed four years ago.

I think we have actually migrated to new hardware a couple of times since the 2009 Jolt move. Moore's Law keeps making hardware faster and cheaper, and the admin team have taken advantage of that fact. We can actually get a 64GB machine for less than we're currently paying for a 16GB machine. We're just waiting for a migration window.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:35 pm
by United Islands of the Pacific
Great Nepal wrote:
Bezombia wrote:What happens when someone makes the 18,446,744,073,709,551,615th post and you can't go any higher? Do you just call it quits and start Nationstates 2 again?

Assuming linear growth, that is 288,230,375 years from now. I would be pretty disappointed if we still relied on internet rather than using some kind of neurological links to play NS. :p


We'd be way more advanced than that. We'd probably be able to retreat into our brain, an alternate reality, or something like that to use the internet. Come to think of it, would we still exist? And there wouldn't be any post limits, that's for sure.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:35 pm
by YellowApple
United Islands of the Pacific wrote:
Bezombia wrote:The forumla is actually very simple.

So it took four years to get to roughly 16777215. That comes out to an average of roughly 4,194,303 post per year. In order to get to 4294967295, it would take almost EXACTLY 1,024 (one thousand twenty four) years.


Nationstates has been around for 10 years. Has this happened before?


The NS forums have moved around a couple times; I believe it's roughly the four-year mark since we hopped off of Jolt.

Esternial wrote:The amount of outrage and madness is proportional to what one would expect to have when running out of toilet paper when you're on the toilet.

Thus, as logic dictates: NS is a toilet.


So it's full of crap?

Leningrad Union wrote:This is what happens when Max Barry uses eSecureData for web hosting. Honestly, just use OVH or Digital Ocean.


That likely has zero to do with the issue, considering the issue was (I reckon) with phpBB's implementation of the 'post_id' field in its database and/or with the database server software itself, neither of which is necessarily dependent on who's hosting the server.

Bezombia wrote:
Lost heros wrote:That's assuming it's linear, which it probably isn't.


The moderation staff has already confirmed that it is.


For now, at least.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:36 pm
by Horusland
United Islands of the Pacific wrote:
HorusLand wrote:Am I the only one who didn't get worried at all?
We're lucky to have such great mods, technicians, etc. :)


I didn't know anything was wrong.

Yes, but I know there was at least one person that panicked. Blekky (best friend here) TGd me 6 times in 10 minutes saying that he can't live without NS.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:41 pm
by Leningrad Union
The Corparation wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:This is what happens when Max Barry uses eSecureData for web hosting. Honestly, just use OVH or Digital Ocean.

Its not a web hosting issue, its a "We never thought they'd make that many posts when we made the forum" issue.

Alrighty. Should there be a forum reset?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:43 pm
by The Corparation
Leningrad Union wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Its not a web hosting issue, its a "We never thought they'd make that many posts when we made the forum" issue.

Alrighty. Should there be a forum reset?

Have you read this thread at all? They changed the limit to how many posts there are.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:44 pm
by Luziyca
Leningrad Union wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Its not a web hosting issue, its a "We never thought they'd make that many posts when we made the forum" issue.

Alrighty. Should there be a forum reset?

No, because it'd lead to the Loss of Childhood Effect: a decrease in activity of ALL forum members. Also, we changed the limit to four billion.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:49 pm
by SalusaSecondus
Leningrad Union wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Its not a web hosting issue, its a "We never thought they'd make that many posts when we made the forum" issue.

Alrighty. Should there be a forum reset?


No need. We just bumped up the size of the column from 3 to 4 bytes. If we were to come close to it again (highly unlikely) we can bump it up to 8 bytes. We'll never hit that limit.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:49 pm
by Frisbeeteria
The Cosmos wrote:Did it have anything to do with that mass-TG that was sent out to roughly 110,000 nations?

Here's the funny thing about databases. That mass mailing took up a grand total of ONE telegram ID. That's not what's causing the TG database to skyrocket.
"Ohai"
"Are you on yet"
"C'mon, are you not home from school?"
"I need the notes from history"
"Answer me, damn you"
<I'm here now>
<gimme a sec, I need a poptart>
"lol"
"get me one"
<get your own>
... and so on, literally for days at a time, each pointless exchange using a TGID of its own

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:50 pm
by Bezombia
SalusaSecondus wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:Alrighty. Should there be a forum reset?


No need. We just bumped up the size of the column from 3 to 4 bytes. If we were to come close to it again (highly unlikely) we can bump it up to 8 bytes. We'll never hit that limit.


oh my god

it's salusa secondus


this truely is a momentous occasion

*grovels*

I've never seen you post before...