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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:09 pm

Hydronium wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Hardly.

It took us 4 years to get to 16 million. So let's say ~4 million a year. Going to 4 billion will take us.... quite some time.


Unless if the number of users increases, which is likely. We could make a (relatively inaccurate) equation: ((a*n)*(g)*(d))*or^t ≤ 4,000,000,000, with a being average posters, n being number of posts daily, g being growth rate, d being death rate, and t being time, with time being either multiplied by or the exponent of the main equation, depending on if the equation is exponential.

But that's math!
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Bezombia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Bezombia » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:10 pm

Hydronium wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Hardly.

It took us 4 years to get to 16 million. So let's say ~4 million a year. Going to 4 billion will take us.... quite some time.


Unless if the number of users increases, which is likely. We could make a (relatively inaccurate) equation: ((a*n)*(g)*(d))*or^t ≤ 4,000,000,000, with a being average posters, n being number of posts daily, g being growth rate, d being death rate, and t being time, with time being either multiplied by or the exponent of the main equation, depending on if the equation is exponential.


It's already been said that in the past few years the number ov users hasn't really increased.
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Senkaku
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Senkaku » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:10 pm

We just ran out of posts? :shock: :blink:


I...I don't even....

Well then. I'm glad things are fixed now. Thanks, admins. :)
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Charlotte Ryberg
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:10 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:Yes, we had a forum outage, and yes, it's been resolved. Apparently our Post Oil reservoir ran dry, and we had to ship in a refill.



Seriously, we ran out of posts. We really did. Via a triumph of tri-continental cooperation within our admin team, our forum post potential has been increased from the miserly 16 million to our current 4 billion. So yeah, you get to share all that vital information about whose military rifle is the most badass, or which pony is shinier again. Have at it.


I should explain how I figured it out: I suspected that the capacity of Post ID was 3 bytes long before the outage. because the highest post number when the SQL error occurred was 16777215, or 24 ones in binary. Well, there shouldn't be any more post capacity problems with the 32-bit Post ID system until the counter reaches 4294967295.

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Hydronium
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Ex-Nation

Postby Hydronium » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:10 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Hydronium wrote:
Unless if the number of users increases, which is likely. We could make a (relatively inaccurate) equation: ((a*n)*(g)*(d))*or^t ≤ 4,000,000,000, with a being average posters, n being number of posts daily, g being growth rate, d being death rate, and t being time, with time being either multiplied by or the exponent of the main equation, depending on if the equation is exponential.

But that's math!

I need more data to be able to compute, plus the values are likely to change.

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Jolthig
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Jolthig » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:11 pm

Senkaku wrote:We just ran out of posts? :shock: :blink:


I...I don't even....

Well then. I'm glad things are fixed now. Thanks, admins. :)

Well, apparently there was a limit on the amount of posts I think.
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:11 pm

Hydronium wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:But that's math!

I need more data to be able to compute, plus the values are likely to change.

Bezombia wrote:
Hydronium wrote:
Unless if the number of users increases, which is likely. We could make a (relatively inaccurate) equation: ((a*n)*(g)*(d))*or^t ≤ 4,000,000,000, with a being average posters, n being number of posts daily, g being growth rate, d being death rate, and t being time, with time being either multiplied by or the exponent of the main equation, depending on if the equation is exponential.


It's already been said that in the past few years the number ov users hasn't really increased.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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United Islands of the Pacific
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Postby United Islands of the Pacific » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:13 pm

Senkaku wrote:We just ran out of posts? :shock: :blink:


I...I don't even....

Well then. I'm glad things are fixed now. Thanks, admins. :)


I didn't even know a limit existed. When I saw it, I though it was just a regular server issue.
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Wars:
Falklands War (Peace Treaty, No troops mobilized)
Senkakan Civil War (Won)
War Against Mccullen Mountain (Won)
Kromovov-Australia War (won)
UIP Civil War (Peace)
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Ex-Nation

Postby Lost heros » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:13 pm

That's hilarious.
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Jolthig
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Jolthig » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:13 pm

United Islands of the Pacific wrote:
Senkaku wrote:We just ran out of posts? :shock: :blink:


I...I don't even....

Well then. I'm glad things are fixed now. Thanks, admins. :)


I didn't even know a limit existed. When I saw it, I though it was just a regular server issue.

That's what I thought as well. :P
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Bezombia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Bezombia » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:14 pm

The forumla is actually very simple.

So it took four years to get to roughly 16777215. That comes out to an average of roughly 4,194,303 post per year. In order to get to 4294967295, it would take almost EXACTLY 1,024 (one thousand twenty four) years.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Daskoxian
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Ex-Nation

Postby Daskoxian » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:15 pm

Jolthig wrote:
United Islands of the Pacific wrote:
I didn't even know a limit existed. When I saw it, I though it was just a regular server issue.

That's what I thought as well. :P

NFS World has this problem half the time with the game so I didn't think too much of it.

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Qazox
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Postby Qazox » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:15 pm

We ran out of room, :roll:

:rofl: :lol2:

Ahhhh, this was a fun day then!

Any chance of a commend of whomever broke it, because without them we would've never known that it would break?
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United Islands of the Pacific
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Postby United Islands of the Pacific » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:15 pm

Bezombia wrote:The forumla is actually very simple.

So it took four years to get to roughly 16777215. That comes out to an average of roughly 4,194,303 post per year. In order to get to 4294967295, it would take almost EXACTLY 1,024 (one thousand twenty four) years.


Nationstates has been around for 10 years. Has this happened before?
Nation's Views:
Pro: Democracy, Capitalism, Monarchy, ARK, Sunalaya
Neutral: People's Republic of Sunalaya, Senkaku
Dislike: Matriarchy
Hate: Facism, Imperialism, Socialism, Communism, Slavery

Wars:
Falklands War (Peace Treaty, No troops mobilized)
Senkakan Civil War (Won)
War Against Mccullen Mountain (Won)
Kromovov-Australia War (won)
UIP Civil War (Peace)
4th Sacheyenyan-Korean War (Peace)

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Lost heros
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Ex-Nation

Postby Lost heros » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:16 pm

Bezombia wrote:The forumla is actually very simple.

So it took four years to get to roughly 16777215. That comes out to an average of roughly 4,194,303 post per year. In order to get to 4294967295, it would take almost EXACTLY 1,024 (one thousand twenty four) years.

That's assuming it's linear, which it probably isn't.
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:16 pm

Lost heros wrote:
Bezombia wrote:The forumla is actually very simple.

So it took four years to get to roughly 16777215. That comes out to an average of roughly 4,194,303 post per year. In order to get to 4294967295, it would take almost EXACTLY 1,024 (one thousand twenty four) years.

That's assuming it's linear, which it probably isn't.


The moderation staff has already confirmed that it is.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:16 pm

United Islands of the Pacific wrote:
Bezombia wrote:The forumla is actually very simple.

So it took four years to get to roughly 16777215. That comes out to an average of roughly 4,194,303 post per year. In order to get to 4294967295, it would take almost EXACTLY 1,024 (one thousand twenty four) years.


Nationstates has been around for 10 years. Has this happened before?


The servers you're posting on have only been around for 4 years.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Jolthig
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Founded: Aug 31, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby Jolthig » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:16 pm

United Islands of the Pacific wrote:
Bezombia wrote:The forumla is actually very simple.

So it took four years to get to roughly 16777215. That comes out to an average of roughly 4,194,303 post per year. In order to get to 4294967295, it would take almost EXACTLY 1,024 (one thousand twenty four) years.


Nationstates has been around for 10 years. Has this happened before?

Well a year before I joined NS, they, I believe, reset the forums of NS.
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Gaveo
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Ex-Nation

Postby Gaveo » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:17 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:perhaps this should be bumped to a global announcement?

I already had one up (reusing the Adbot Announcement) and have already reverted it.

Gaveo wrote:I believe this should be in the news.

You know, Max Barry, doing a article and all. :p

I believe we'll let him shower and have breakfast first.

Of course, of course.
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Lordieth
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Lordieth » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:18 pm

The postid field in the SQL table had a small int limit that nobody thought would be broken? :p
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United Islands of the Pacific
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Ex-Nation

Postby United Islands of the Pacific » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:19 pm

Bezombia wrote:
United Islands of the Pacific wrote:
Nationstates has been around for 10 years. Has this happened before?


The servers you're posting on have only been around for 4 years.


Are we still on the same servers? Or have they been changed?
Nation's Views:
Pro: Democracy, Capitalism, Monarchy, ARK, Sunalaya
Neutral: People's Republic of Sunalaya, Senkaku
Dislike: Matriarchy
Hate: Facism, Imperialism, Socialism, Communism, Slavery

Wars:
Falklands War (Peace Treaty, No troops mobilized)
Senkakan Civil War (Won)
War Against Mccullen Mountain (Won)
Kromovov-Australia War (won)
UIP Civil War (Peace)
4th Sacheyenyan-Korean War (Peace)

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The Equal Peoples State of Steelia
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Equal Peoples State of Steelia » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:20 pm

I would like to take this chance as well to praise the moderation team for still working and listening to me and my comrade when we reported a troll through the getting help page and even though they were still incredibly busy carried out there moderation duty efficiently and quickly
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Luziyca
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Luziyca » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:20 pm

United Islands of the Pacific wrote:
Bezombia wrote:The forumla is actually very simple.

So it took four years to get to roughly 16777215. That comes out to an average of roughly 4,194,303 post per year. In order to get to 4294967295, it would take almost EXACTLY 1,024 (one thousand twenty four) years.


Nationstates has been around for 10 years. Has this happened before?

The reason why these forums are younger than the forums is simple. First, we had independent forums from 2002 to around 2003 or 2004, then Max couldn't afford to pay, so Jolt saved him, then Jolt turned NS to shit, and then Max got the fuck out of Jolt and started these forums.

United Islands of the Pacific wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
The servers you're posting on have only been around for 4 years.


Are we still on the same servers? Or have they been changed?

I think we are.
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Jolthig
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Jolthig » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:20 pm

United Islands of the Pacific wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
The servers you're posting on have only been around for 4 years.


Are we still on the same servers? Or have they been changed?

And didn't they switch from Jolt recently?
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Ex-Nation

Postby Leningrad Union » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:21 pm

This is what happens when Max Barry uses eSecureData for web hosting. Honestly, just use OVH or Digital Ocean.

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