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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:42 pm

The Circularity is very appropriate.
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However a redesign of the WA logo would mean a redesign of both the commendation, and the condemnation badges, and no doubt many regional forums and wikis would have to update their logos with the new version. I like the design though. Its very clean, and looks very professional.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:06 pm

It's a neat idea but not nearly as imaginative as Uni's. It is not, as [violet] requested, a variation of the WA logo, and when condensed the wording will be illegible. Besides, I don't think anyone was serious about using the UN laurel.

@Uni: Side by side I prefer the sky blue one. Out of curiosity which do you like better?
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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:09 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:@Uni: Side by side I prefer the sky blue one. Out of curiosity which do you like better?


Same, I think its a little easier on the eyes.

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Postby [violet] » Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:50 pm

It'd be nifty if the designs would still look good when reduced to a single color. EG we use a faded, monocolor version of the WA design in the background in a couple places, and it would be helpful to keep the same format for the SC & GA.

Actually, given the WA flag is monochromatic, I'd be interested in seeing designs along the same lines for the SC & GA, too. (Not saying multicolor is out, just that I'll take a good monocolor over a good multicolor, for consistency.)

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:08 pm

You mean the watermark in the background on the WA page? Why can't the same watermark simply appear on both pages? Or if you prefer that each page have its own distinctive symbol, I'm sure monochromatic versions of the SC scale and the "two volumes" can be made up quite easily.

edit: But I'd still prefer the multicolor designs on the actual flags.
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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:08 pm

[violet] wrote:It'd be nifty if the designs would still look good when reduced to a single color. EG we use a faded, monocolor version of the WA design in the background in a couple places, and it would be helpful to keep the same format for the SC & GA.

Actually, given the WA flag is monochromatic, I'd be interested in seeing designs along the same lines for the SC & GA, too. (Not saying multicolor is out, just that I'll take a good monocolor over a good multicolor, for consistency.)


Or use a faded scales for the background of the Security Council, and my nifty mutlicolor flag. And err.. something else for the background of the General Assembly. :p

I'm literally filling my Photobucket, yarh!!

EDITED FOR SHAME: Kenny beat me to the punch. :(
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:17 am

Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:
[violet] wrote:It'd be nifty if the designs would still look good when reduced to a single color. EG we use a faded, monocolor version of the WA design in the background in a couple places, and it would be helpful to keep the same format for the SC & GA.

Actually, given the WA flag is monochromatic, I'd be interested in seeing designs along the same lines for the SC & GA, too. (Not saying multicolor is out, just that I'll take a good monocolor over a good multicolor, for consistency.)


Or use a faded scales for the background of the Security Council, and my nifty mutlicolor flag. And err.. something else for the background of the General Assembly. :p

I'm literally filling my Photobucket, yarh!!

EDITED FOR SHAME: Kenny beat me to the punch. :(

I would recommend the book for the GA.

For my concept works, the base design will be mono-colour and I am considering the stylised milky way map (with perhaps emphasis on the Solar system) for the general logo (as well as the background), tipped scales for condemnation and balanced scales for the SC and commendation badge. Consideration should also be taken for the member and delegate badges.

Circularity happens to also represent unity.

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Postby [violet] » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:28 pm

Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:Image

I'd like to go with this one if we can get a similar equivalent for the other council--e.g. same background, different foreground icon. I'm actually thinking we could have scales for the GA and a sword for the SC, although happy to take suggestions.

Thanks for your work, Unibot! Looks great.

A suggestion: I think it looks nicer if the scales are silver (in GIMP, Colors -> Hue/Saturation -> Yellow channel -> -100 Saturation).

Also, can you get me a larger version of the whole thing, in xcf format if possible, or if not also of the scales by themselves (no bg)?

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Postby Unibot » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:20 pm

[violet] wrote:
Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:Image

I'd like to go with this one if we can get a similar equivalent for the other council--e.g. same background, different foreground icon. I'm actually thinking we could have scales for the GA and a sword for the SC, although happy to take suggestions.

Thanks for your work, Unibot! Looks great.

A suggestion: I think it looks nicer if the scales are silver (in GIMP, Colors -> Hue/Saturation -> Yellow channel -> -100 Saturation).

Also, can you get me a larger version of the whole thing, in xcf format if possible, or if not also of the scales by themselves (no bg)?


Will do. I'll send a .xcf file of my gold version, and the silver version to admin@nationstates.net. I'm partial to the gold, but I understand that you're trying to keep it bi-chromatic.

If you want me to send it elsewhere, just ask.

As for the GA symbols .. how'll about two perpendicular crossing dolphins? Not only would it be a nod to GA lore, but the dolphin in heldary means "Swiftness, diligence, salvation, charity, and love" -- with the exception of love, that sounds like what being GA participant is all about. Okay, maybe not so swift. :p

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From: http://www.fleurdelis.com/meanings.htm

My family coat of arms always used a running deer, which I kind of liked, it apparently symbolizes "One who will not fight unless provoked; peace and harmony".
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:42 am

No, let's not go into the snake thing.

I may have another attempt at a total WA rebrand. Since the basic design was created in Illustrator it is possible to create the monochrome-version in PSD. The wording can be omitted without compromising the quality, maybe I might increase the size of the year of establishment. Finally, I would accept the idea for a sword in the SC, and I exactly know which English County inspires me for the design (Essex!)

I'll see what I can come up for the SC tonight, then have a go at the GA logo. Is it okay to submit the thumbnails first?

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:50 am

Unibot wrote:As for the GA symbols .. how'll about two perpendicular crossing dolphins? Not only would it be a nod to GA lore, but the dolphin in heldary means "Swiftness, diligence, salvation, charity, and love" -- with the exception of love, that sounds like what being GA participant is all about. Okay, maybe not so swift. :p

:roll:

Would the book thingy you designed before work on the background violet suggested? I still would prefer the background on the GA flag be sky blue, not charcoal (if that could work).

edit, for those who don't know what I'm talking about: viewtopic.php?p=994397#p994397
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:07 pm

Here's my first draft for the SC Swords, inspired by the emblem of Essex:

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EDIT: and also inspired by the emblem of Middlesex as well.
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Postby Fit battion » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:28 pm

I like it, pretty simple and nice to look at. Definitely seems to represent the Council.
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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:30 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Unibot wrote:As for the GA symbols .. how'll about two perpendicular crossing dolphins? Not only would it be a nod to GA lore, but the dolphin in heldary means "Swiftness, diligence, salvation, charity, and love" -- with the exception of love, that sounds like what being GA participant is all about. Okay, maybe not so swift. :p

:roll:

Would the book thingy you designed before work on the background violet suggested? I still would prefer the background on the GA flag be sky blue, not charcoal (if that could work).

edit, for those who don't know what I'm talking about: viewtopic.php?p=994397#p994397


I could probably make it work....

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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:54 pm

[violet] wrote:
Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:Image

I'd like to go with this one if we can get a similar equivalent for the other council--e.g. same background, different foreground icon. I'm actually thinking we could have scales for the GA and a sword for the SC, although happy to take suggestions.


I didn't notice that last night...

I'd really recommend from my measly artist's prospective that you use the scales for the Security Council, because that is the main function of the Security Council.. adjudication. From the get-go, the Security Council was about adjudicating nations and regions with commendations and condemnations. The concepts of 'evidence', 'biasness' and jurisprudence are very familiar to SC debates. Which is something that doesn't happen often in the General Assembly.

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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:57 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Unibot wrote:As for the GA symbols .. how'll about two perpendicular crossing dolphins? Not only would it be a nod to GA lore, but the dolphin in heldary means "Swiftness, diligence, salvation, charity, and love" -- with the exception of love, that sounds like what being GA participant is all about. Okay, maybe not so swift. :p

:roll:

Would the book thingy you designed before work on the background violet suggested? I still would prefer the background on the GA flag be sky blue, not charcoal (if that could work).

edit, for those who don't know what I'm talking about: viewtopic.php?p=994397#p994397


Apparently Violet wants to use it for the Security Council... and I'm unsure if some of the people who debate in SC threads are even literate to be honest, so two books might be inappropriate. :p
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:58 pm

Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Unibot wrote:As for the GA symbols .. how'll about two perpendicular crossing dolphins? Not only would it be a nod to GA lore, but the dolphin in heldary means "Swiftness, diligence, salvation, charity, and love" -- with the exception of love, that sounds like what being GA participant is all about. Okay, maybe not so swift. :p

:roll:

Would the book thingy you designed before work on the background violet suggested? I still would prefer the background on the GA flag be sky blue, not charcoal (if that could work).

edit, for those who don't know what I'm talking about: viewtopic.php?p=994397#p994397


Apparently Violet wants to use it for the Security Council...

No, that's not what she said. She wanted a sword for the SC, but she was open to suggestions.

The scale's still better for the SC (because unlike the GA they actually make judgments as opposed to laws), but I'd still like to see what the book thingy would look like against the same background.
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Postby Unibot » Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:48 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Unibot wrote:As for the GA symbols .. how'll about two perpendicular crossing dolphins? Not only would it be a nod to GA lore, but the dolphin in heldary means "Swiftness, diligence, salvation, charity, and love" -- with the exception of love, that sounds like what being GA participant is all about. Okay, maybe not so swift. :p

:roll:

Would the book thingy you designed before work on the background violet suggested? I still would prefer the background on the GA flag be sky blue, not charcoal (if that could work).

edit, for those who don't know what I'm talking about: viewtopic.php?p=994397#p994397


Apparently Violet wants to use it for the Security Council...

No, that's not what she said. She wanted a sword for the SC, but she was open to suggestions.

The scale's still better for the SC (because unlike the GA they actually make judgments as opposed to laws), but I'd still like to see what the book thingy would look like against the same background.


Well, I'm not really a fan of these, but...

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:47 pm

I do like the third one, although the glowing from behind the books makes it sort of look like the Bible or something.

Do you think it might look better against the background used for the SC flag?
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Postby Unibot » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:07 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:I do like the third one, although the glowing from behind the books makes it sort of look like the Bible or something.

Do you think it might look better against the background used for the SC flag?


Less Biblical...

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Postby 0rville Redenbacher » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:59 pm

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Here's my first draft for the SC Swords, inspired by the emblem of Essex:

Image

EDIT: and also inspired by the emblem of Middlesex as well.


The wreath should be made of popcorn. :)

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Postby [violet] » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:03 pm

I've gone with the graphics discussed above, including an SC sword variant, since I needed something to drop in. If there's a popular vote for an alternative, it's not hard to replace them.

I do like the scales + sword combo, as the two sides of justice. I assigned them that way since I thought the scales were applicable to either council, whereas the sword didn't really suit the GA.

Thanks very very very much to Unibot for the graphic work! Also to everyone who contributed to this thread.

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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:32 pm

[violet] wrote:Thanks very very very much to Unibot for the graphic work! Also to everyone who contributed to this thread.


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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:33 pm

I mean, issues editors have badges, how does one reward this!?!?

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:30 am

Well done Unibot, if you would like me to redesign the graphics later on in the year drop me a line.

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