Suggestion: Remove "Minnow" classification

[Neasmyrna]

If the influence text labels had to be retained due to coding issues, I was thinking of something less controversial, such as... simply "resident".

'Resident' better than blank. Minnow is at least, something, 'blank' is nothing, and the newbies will start asking tons of questions "hey why don't I have influence? Why is mine blank?"

haha...

yeah

No blank. I believe the original idea was to base giving people rankings once they passed a certain population. But in reality some new people move to a region the first day with a bunch of friends and if there are only 4 or so people in that region they're going to get up to a considerable rank after only a few days.

I don't think resident would be a good term for it (it doesn't quite fit in with things like negotiator and truckler in my opinion)

but that's roughly the right idea.

I thought for a split second of what would happen if you just bumped all the names up so Vassal was the first one... but even then I wouldn't necessarily want to be a "lowly" vassal of some feeder region--it's almost as bad as minnow only we know that it's not .

if you know what I mean.

[The Most Glorious Hack]

The Bicycle: If you want to discuss stripping non-WA members from influence calculations, make your own thread; this is not the thread for it.

[The Bicycle]

The Bicycle: If you want to discuss stripping non-WA members from influence calculations, make your own thread; this is not the thread for it.

Ever heard of topic drift?
It's a related issue, after all. And a better solution than the one the thread started with.

[The Most Glorious Hack]

Ever heard of topic drift?
It's a related issue, after all. And a better solution than the one the thread started with.

Ever heard of a Moderator? Take it to another thread.

[The Bicycle]

Sigh... What a boring forum. Take a look around the web! The world has generally moved on from the ancient, oppressive forums of the past. Topic drift is a natural thing in conversations. Could you imagine a group of friends sitting around a table, having a good time, but as soon as one of them changed the subject even a tiny bit, some other guy would come around to bark at him! What a silly notion!

[Goias]

Great idea, in my opinion. It *is* demoralizing to see the 'minnow' title, which is why there might be a lot of swappers - no one really wants to be seen as such.

Gets worse if you had progressed up the ladder and then move to another region and revert back to "minnow" (what happened to me)...

[Loria Aesir]

I think it's a great idea.

[[violet]]

I'm kinda in favor of dropping the label for Minnows, and "Regional Power" in regions where it's "Low." It would reduce clutter, and if influence/power is zero, or pretty close to, there's nothing worth displaying. But yes, I fear causing players to scroll around haplessly, hunting for their missing Influence label.

[Kandarin]

I'm kinda in favor of dropping the label for Minnows, and "Regional Power" in regions where it's "Low." It would reduce clutter, and if influence/power is zero, or pretty close to, there's nothing worth displaying. But yes, I fear causing players to scroll around haplessly, hunting for their missing Influence label.

Perhaps an announcement at the time would clarify things? I know you folks don't always have those, but if there were PR concerns it might be a good idea.

[Neasmyrna]

I'm kinda in favor of dropping the label for Minnows, and "Regional Power" in regions where it's "Low." It would reduce clutter, and if influence/power is zero, or pretty close to, there's nothing worth displaying. But yes, I fear causing players to scroll around haplessly, hunting for their missing Influence label.

Perhaps an announcement at the time would clarify things? I know you folks don't always have those, but if there were PR concerns it might be a good idea.

That would require people reading something which is similar to "listening"

And I wouldn't be surprised if there were dozens of inquiry's and confused people anyway

I actually like the idea of having less clutter... hadn't thought about it that way. But I think it would be really weird for thousands of NS players (and regions) to not have any marking thing when hundreds of others did. But that's something I may be able to get over

[Unibot]

I'm kinda in favor of dropping the label for Minnows, and "Regional Power" in regions where it's "Low." It would reduce clutter, and if influence/power is zero, or pretty close to, there's nothing worth displaying. But yes, I fear causing players to scroll around haplessly, hunting for their missing Influence label.

Perhaps an announcement at the time would clarify things? I know you folks don't always have those, but if there were PR concerns it might be a good idea.

...But I think it would be really weird for thousands of NS players (and regions) to not have any marking thing when hundreds of others did. ....

I don't think theres going to be too many people upset about losing their precious "minnow" rankings.

*Added to the Big List*

[Warre]

I'm for the removal of the minnow classification or rework of it's name.

I can agree that it's demoralizing, and it's also a very likely cause of losing of players. While my population has grown in the 2 years since I've been here, my influence classification is still 'minnow', even barring the fact I've had 60 or so endorsements at a time before.

[Northern Chittowa]

Thats true...Ive had my main WA in Lazarus now for close to a year i believe, probably longer, yet im still classed as a minnow despite that fact and the fact i have 71 endorsements I dont mind it a great deal, yet i can fully understand people getting annoyed at having the title.

Huh. My non-WA puppet in Lazarus is a Vassal... of course, it's been there a very, very long time...

AH! MOD CONSPIRACY!!

*Cough*

[EvilDarkMagicians]

I support this idea.

[New Bazlantis]

Did anything become of this idea? It seems as though everyone reached a consensus to do away with 'minnow' yet it still remains?

Mod Update?

[The Murtunian Tribes]

Did anything become of this idea? It seems as though everyone reached a consensus to do away with 'minnow' yet it still remains?

Mod Update?

Consensus means nothing in technical.

[Frisbeeteria]

... but an admin response is worth bumping.

I'm kinda in favor of dropping the label for Minnows...

[The Murtunian Tribes]

... but an admin response is worth bumping.

I'm kinda in favor of dropping the label for Minnows...

I stand corrected.

[Tim-Opolis]

... but an admin response is worth bumping.

I stand corrected.

Yet. 2 years later it's still there....

Maybe it shall come with the TG revamp

[New Bazlantis]

... but an admin response is worth bumping.

I'm kinda in favor of dropping the label for Minnows...

*quietly reappears*

BUUUUUUUUMP!

*scurries away*

[Frisbeeteria]

I've added this into the enhancement queue, so no need for additional bumps. Whether or when it gets addressed is up to the admins.