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by Darth Radix II » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:21 am
by Christian Democrats » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:56 am
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Cromarty » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:57 am
Cerian Quilor wrote:There's a difference between breaking the rules, and being well....Cromarty...
<Koth>all sexual orientations must unite under the relative sexiness of madjack
by Christian Democrats » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:59 am
Cromarty wrote:No. Those tags are useful.
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Cromarty » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:17 am
Christian Democrats wrote:Cromarty wrote:No. Those tags are useful.
No, they aren't.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=tgsettings
The new telegram settings allow players to opt out of receiving WA campaign telegrams.
Cerian Quilor wrote:There's a difference between breaking the rules, and being well....Cromarty...
<Koth>all sexual orientations must unite under the relative sexiness of madjack
by Delegate Vinage » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:07 am
Cromarty wrote:Christian Democrats wrote:No, they aren't.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=tgsettings
The new telegram settings allow players to opt out of receiving WA campaign telegrams.
The tags prevent people wasting their time sending out TGs if using an autotger.
by 95X » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:12 am
Nation not my RL views, etc.
Poe's Law. Nonpartisan.
by Atmos » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:25 am
Unibot III wrote:...Likewise, I might be interested in subscribing to a hypothetical telegrammed-news-network (which I'm envisioning of doing), without leaving my region etc.
My recommendation would be combining those two options: (1) Doesn't have a button to move somewhere, (2) Is a separate category for "organizations" or "activities" or "miscellaneous" or something along these lines. I could see this being used for news media, opinion polling, roleplaying, defending, raiding.. etc. any activity or cause that doesn't fit into the traditional "region recruitment" block.
EDIT: Another thing would be interregional protests, invitations to join interregional conferences or world fairs (like the one I ran last year) and all sorts of "fourth estate" kinds of things.
EDIT2: New NS Software, like NSEconomy and the Gameplay Compass.
by Cerian Quilor » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:01 am
by Luna Amore » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:04 am
by Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:17 am
[violet] wrote:Cerberion wrote:So I searched but couldn't find this in the thread. Could someone point me to a description of what the "External" filter does?
Hovering over the name should pop up "Mass Telegrams of unspecified type."
It's the category assigned to telegrams that aren't explicitly addressed to you and don't fall into any of the other groups (recruitment, campaign, regional).
by Cerian Quilor » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:23 am
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:[violet] wrote:Hovering over the name should pop up "Mass Telegrams of unspecified type."
It's the category assigned to telegrams that aren't explicitly addressed to you and don't fall into any of the other groups (recruitment, campaign, regional).
There should be a "regional announcement" option because when mass telegrams arrive I am hoping to advise my members on the ideal telegram type settings.
by Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:29 am
Cerian Quilor wrote:Charlotte Ryberg wrote:There should be a "regional announcement" option because when mass telegrams arrive I am hoping to advise my members on the ideal telegram type settings.
The filter appears to allow you to filter out TGs from 'region' which means regional announcements will probably be a catagory.
by Oneracon » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:59 am
Christian Democrats wrote:Cromarty wrote:No. Those tags are useful.
No, they aren't.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=tgsettings
The new telegram settings allow players to opt out of receiving WA campaign telegrams.
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by Delegate Vinage » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:34 am
by Cerian Quilor » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:00 pm
by Server Hamsters » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:31 pm
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Why can I not send mass TG Recruitspam?!?1
by Galiantus II » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:49 pm
Unibot III wrote:[violet] wrote:Yep, and we'll need to fix that.
As I see it, we have two options:
- Let recruiters disable that "Move to @@REGION@@" button when they're recruiting for an organization but don't want the recipient to change regions; or
- Create a new category for non-region based recruitment, which doesn't include the button, and which people can choose to block or not.
The first option is simpler, since players can check one box to block all forms of recruitment. The second option is more flexible, which would suit people who are open to region-based recruitment but not something like the UDL, or vice versa.
Right now I'm thinking the first one makes more sense, but this is something we'll observe and refine as we go, with input from the people affected.
But doesn't the first option treat all recruitment the same? I mean, most people I talk to, like to join the UDL, specifically because they don't want to join a different region (that would be unloyal), but they want to help out with the defender cause. Likewise, I might be interested in subscribing to a hypothetical telegrammed-news-network (which I'm envisioning of doing), without leaving my region etc.
My recommendation would be combining those two options: (1) Doesn't have a button to move somewhere, (2) Is a separate category for "organizations" or "activities" or "miscellaneous" or something along these lines. I could see this being used for news media, opinion polling, roleplaying, defending, raiding.. etc. any activity or cause that doesn't fit into the traditional "region recruitment" block.
by Sichuan Pepper » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:22 pm
Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:Consider charging for its use Auralia. Last time these things were legal I charged the Kingdom of Denmark founder $30/mo to use mine. People are willing to pay.
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Yeah but no one here can read. Literacy is a tool used by fendas, like IRC or morals.
by Lordieth » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:29 pm
A special rate limit applies (planned to be approx. 1 telegram per 20 seconds for non-recruitment TGs
by Galiantus II » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:55 pm
Sichuan Pepper wrote:@ Galiantus II
Sounds to me like you want to create sub-groups in the new system to send out telegrams to with a saved list of members.
Naturally if you were sending out invites to join a group it would come under recruitment rules and be tagged as recruiting.
I think a problem we are having is that nations view invitations as being different from recruiting.
by Unibot III » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:50 pm
Galiantus II wrote:The only possible problem I can see with a system like this is that these groups could become alternative forms of recruitment (i.e. you invite someone to a group, and then use the content of the group to send them recruitment stuff). News groups based in specific regions may appear to borderline this practice, as well.
Unibot III wrote:[violet] wrote:Yep, and we'll need to fix that.
As I see it, we have two options:
- Let recruiters disable that "Move to @@REGION@@" button when they're recruiting for an organization but don't want the recipient to change regions; or
- Create a new category for non-region based recruitment, which doesn't include the button, and which people can choose to block or not.
The first option is simpler, since players can check one box to block all forms of recruitment. The second option is more flexible, which would suit people who are open to region-based recruitment but not something like the UDL, or vice versa.
Right now I'm thinking the first one makes more sense, but this is something we'll observe and refine as we go, with input from the people affected.
But doesn't the first option treat all recruitment the same? I mean, most people I talk to, like to join the UDL, specifically because they don't want to join a different region (that would be unloyal), but they want to help out with the defender cause. Likewise, I might be interested in subscribing to a hypothetical telegrammed-news-network (which I'm envisioning of doing), without leaving my region etc.
My recommendation would be combining those two options: (1) Doesn't have a button to move somewhere, (2) Is a separate category for "organizations" or "activities" or "miscellaneous" or something along these lines. I could see this being used for news media, opinion polling, roleplaying, defending, raiding.. etc. any activity or cause that doesn't fit into the traditional "region recruitment" block.
EDIT: Another thing would be interregional protests, invitations to join interregional conferences or world fairs (like the one I ran last year) and all sorts of "fourth estate" kinds of things.
EDIT2: New NS Software, like NSEconomy and the Gameplay Compass.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Flibbleites » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:14 pm
[violet] wrote:Unibot III wrote:
So we're supposed to use this interface to recruit for non-regional entities? But the interface assumes that I'm recruiting for the region I'm in. :/
Yep, and we'll need to fix that.
As I see it, we have two options:
- Let recruiters disable that "Move to @@REGION@@" button when they're recruiting for an organization but don't want the recipient to change regions; or
- Create a new category for non-region based recruitment, which doesn't include the button, and which people can choose to block or not.
The first option is simpler, since players can check one box to block all forms of recruitment. The second option is more flexible, which would suit people who are open to region-based recruitment but not something like the UDL, or vice versa.
Right now I'm thinking the first one makes more sense, but this is something we'll observe and refine as we go, with input from the people affected.
Christian Democrats wrote:Cromarty wrote:No. Those tags are useful.
No, they aren't.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=tgsettings
The new telegram settings allow players to opt out of receiving WA campaign telegrams.
by Eldarion Telcontar » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:34 pm
Ashton Mercer wrote:Some college could do an entire study of the social interactions of Ainur for a decade and get nowhere.
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