Nation name release!

[Vestmarck]

Speak for yourself. I've been trying to get into contact of the owner of the "Vestmark" for quite a while to no success. Most likely I'll never see the name, since the nation is too big to have it's name released, and I am not sure if someone is willing to part with it (much less revive the nation again!) Which is a shame, because the "c" in my name irks me to no extent.

Have you tried Vest mark or Vest-mark/Vest-Mark?

It's not the same man.

It's not the same.

[Jute]

Have you tried Vest mark or Vest-mark/Vest-Mark?

It's not the same man.

It's not the same.

VVestmark maybe, with two Vs?

[Lava monsters]

Hello. Query: if lava monsters want to make a nation to save its name, then refound later, what is the smallest population required for it to be saved (not reserved at 500 mil)?

[Kaboomlandia]

One of my puppets was deleted by a mod for RMB spamming. When checking the boneyard, I noticed that it stated "reserved" instead of "soiled by a former nation." What's going on?

[Greonterp]

Have you tried Vest mark or Vest-mark/Vest-Mark?

It's not the same man.

It's not the same.

-Vestmark. That could work.

[The Blaatschapen]

One of my puppets was deleted by a mod for RMB spamming. When checking the boneyard, I noticed that it stated "reserved" instead of "soiled by a former nation." What's going on?

Can you state which puppet? Otherwise, file a GHR

[Seker]

Let's say I made a nation with a cool name that I never use, and I want someone else to enjoy it.

Could we have a way to "mark it for immediate release"? We let the nation die and then, after 28 days, it returns permanently to the name pool.

[Lava monsters]

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What is the minimum population size for the game to remember a nation for being logged into again after ceasing to exist?

[Maltropia]

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What is the minimum population size for the game to remember a nation for being logged into again after ceasing to exist?

5 million - once it's founded, it's there and it'll take however many years it is for it to come free again.

[Kaboomlandia]

One of my puppets was deleted by a mod for RMB spamming. When checking the boneyard, I noticed that it stated "reserved" instead of "soiled by a former nation." What's going on?

Can you state which puppet? Otherwise, file a GHR

It was Doingpanem, deleted a couple weeks ago.
I don't want the nation back, I have several other puppets to take care of. Don't worry, I'm not WA cheating.

[Wanenheim]

I think that the maximum population amount should be (more/ a bit more) irrelevant because a lot nations will just stay inactive forever.

For example the nation Kreuzberg.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=boneyard?nation=kreuzberg

Former nation Kreuzberg
Founded: Thu Jan 29 2004
Last activity: Thu May 13 2004
Population: 939 million

This nation was inactive for the last 11 years. The founder might not even remember this nation.

[Back Forearm]

So I'm aloud to have this nation, if so can I have it.

[Back Forearm]

I'm aloud to have this right?

[Evil Wolf]

I'm aloud to have this right?

The Boneyard says you're the only nation to ever use the name "Back Forearm" but regardless, if the game allows you to create a nation under a name, then yes, you're allowed to have that nation, as long as the name is legal. Yours' doesn't appear to violate the name rules, but I'm no MOD.

[Geanna]

So - there's on particular nation name I have been waiting to come available for quite some time.

Former nation Albernia
Founded: Antiquity
Last activity: Tue Jul 1 2003
Population: 988 million

This nation ceased over ten years ago - but it's out of reach. If they haven't come back in over ten years, shouldn't it be safe to say they might not be? I can understand there exists a few cases where this has apparently happen, but it's 2015 ;~; - Hell, I waited 2 years to get a hold of another nation before it finally was free, but given it'd ceased within the last 4 years. This was over a decade ago - and there's many others I drew an interest to that had gone beyond even this one in time.

I understand criteria surrounding the boneyard and why they've not, or have such long wait times - but it's been sometime since it was implemented to begin with, and perhaps it might be time to consider retweaking some of these?

*throws rocks at Violet* VIOLET, Come out of the wood work, I know you're there! ;~;

[Xenforo]

This nation ceased over ten years ago - but it's out of reach. If they haven't come back in over ten years, shouldn't it be safe to say they might not be? I can understand there exists a few cases where this has apparently happen, but it's 2015

Don't forget that if they purchased a package in NationStates store, they'll be forever get their nation's name reserved.

[Mousebumples]

This nation ceased over ten years ago - but it's out of reach. If they haven't come back in over ten years, shouldn't it be safe to say they might not be? I can understand there exists a few cases where this has apparently happen, but it's 2015

Don't forget that if they purchased a package in NationStates store, they'll be forever get their nation's name reserved.

The store didn't exist 10+ years ago.

[Kaboomlandia]

I kind of see what he's saying. If I were to stop playing this game completely today, and allow some time for them to CTE, four of my six nations would be reserved forever.

[Phydios]

I agree with this too. 500 million is high enough to assume that the player spent some time invested in the nation, but everyone will lose interest someday. It might take days or decades, but it'll happen. My suggestion, therefore, is to have the minimum population count for "reserved" status go up as the time inactive increases. This will open up even the names of large nations.
There are nations that CTE'd so long ago that kids born after the event are in middle school today. Yet because a certain amount of time passed before the nations did so, their names are forever reserved for players that probably aren't coming back. If one did, I don't think they'd expect their old nation to still be around.

[Geanna]

Don't forget that if they purchased a package in NationStates store, they'll be forever get their nation's name reserved.

The store didn't exist 10+ years ago.

Indeed

I agree with this too. 500 million is high enough to assume that the player spent some time invested in the nation, but everyone will lose interest someday. It might take days or decades, but it'll happen. My suggestion, therefore, is to have the minimum population count for "reserved" status go up as the time inactive increases. This will open up even the names of large nations.
There are nations that CTE'd so long ago that kids born after the event are in middle school today. Yet because a certain amount of time passed before the nations did so, their names are forever reserved for players that probably aren't coming back. If one did, I don't think they'd expect their old nation to still be around.

Violet made a point that things could be adjusted or tweaked at a later date when the Boneyard was first introduced. There's some nation names I've been waiting to see if they come out of limbo since about 2011 - and yet they haven't. Albernia for example, I've had my eye on for a few years now.

[The Liberated Territories]

What is the minimum population size for the game to remember a nation for being logged into again after ceasing to exist?

5 million - once it's founded, it's there and it'll take however many years it is for it to come free again.

Really should be progressive...

120 million or something should take less than a year, since if you aren't going to come back to it in that time, why group it with nations of 500 million ?

[Kaboomlandia]

5 million - once it's founded, it's there and it'll take however many years it is for it to come free again.

Really should be progressive...

120 million or something should take less than a year, since if you aren't going to come back to it in that time, why group it with nations of 500 million ?

As far as I know, if you found a nation one day and never comeback to it, it will disappear at approx. 45-50 million. In the meantime, if a nation disappears at 400 million, they get the same treatment.

Maybe something like this: <100 million --> 1 year. <200 million --> 2 years. <300 million --> 3 years. <400 million --> 4 years. <500 million --> 5 years. >500 million --> forever.

[Gradea]

I agree with this too. 500 million is high enough to assume that the player spent some time invested in the nation, but everyone will lose interest someday. It might take days or decades, but it'll happen. My suggestion, therefore, is to have the minimum population count for "reserved" status go up as the time inactive increases. This will open up even the names of large nations.
There are nations that CTE'd so long ago that kids born after the event are in middle school today. Yet because a certain amount of time passed before the nations did so, their names are forever reserved for players that probably aren't coming back. If one did, I don't think they'd expect their old nation to still be around.

It should be increased to 750 million before the nation's name is reserved.

[Wirbanskia]

I agree with this too. 500 million is high enough to assume that the player spent some time invested in the nation, but everyone will lose interest someday. It might take days or decades, but it'll happen. My suggestion, therefore, is to have the minimum population count for "reserved" status go up as the time inactive increases. This will open up even the names of large nations.
There are nations that CTE'd so long ago that kids born after the event are in middle school today. Yet because a certain amount of time passed before the nations did so, their names are forever reserved for players that probably aren't coming back. If one did, I don't think they'd expect their old nation to still be around.

It should be increased to 750 million before the nation's name is reserved.

I'd say 1 billion because by then if you've stuck around that long it really means you've invested your time and effort in this game and really found a rhythm.

[Kaboomlandia]

So we've heard some suggestions which include:

- increase time before forever reserving name
- sliding-scale time based on population

Seem like good ideas, and will help with people who (hypothetically) just make nations to lock up the name for another five years.