Could You Lengthen the Create A Nation Name Thing?

[The Montiarian Empire]

Yeah, you know when you are trying to create a nation and there's a limit on how long the name can be? Could you lengthen it by just one teeny little space?

[Naurobia]

Nope

[The Montiarian Empire]

Nope

Well that just blows. XD

[Sedgistan]

Nope

You're not an admin, please don't pretend you can make these kinds of decisions.

[Aescentia]

It's been suggested before - I can't find a handy link to a post by either an admin regarding its implementation into the game, or a player post suggesting it. But I know I've seen it: and support it thoroughly.

[NewTexas]

Seems kind of silly to make the max length in the input box so short when [violet] has already stated that nation name lengths are not really enforced. You can create a nation name of any length now if you know how to do it (and many do).

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Antidisestablishmentarianism certainly did not type that in the input box.

[Naurobia]

Nope

You're not an admin, please don't pretend you can make these kinds of decisions.

Sorry. I didn't think it was possible to lengthen the nation name.

[Ballotonia]

Some stats, not considering dead nations, based on today's XML feed:

Shortest region name is 3 characters. Example: 000.
Longest region name is 40 characters, there are currently 37 of these. Examples are 40 zeroes or 40 z's, but here are a bunch with names that seem sort of meaningful.
The range 3-40 is enforced by the entry box in the game GUI.

Shortest nation name is 2. There are currently 13 of these. Example: 7p. This lower bound is enforced by the entry box in the game GUI.
Longest nation name is 40, even though the entry box limits it to 22. There are 42 nations with a name longer than what the GUI allows. Longest is ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerica.

My suggestion would be to set the entry box maximum limit to 40, and enforce this limit in the game as well so that circumventing the entry box limit doesn't work anymore.

Ballotonia

[Bears Armed]

Seems kind of silly to make the max length in the input box so short when [violet] has already stated that nation name lengths are not really enforced. You can create a nation name of any length now if you know how to do it (and many do).

Would you care to explain how to do this?


And what about longer pre-titles for nations, are those already (or, if not, then could those become) possible as well?

[Luna Amore]

Some stats, not considering dead nations, based on today's XML feed:

Shortest region name is 3 characters. Example: 000.
Longest region name is 40 characters, there are currently 37 of these. Examples are 40 zeroes or 40 z's, but here are a bunch with names that seem sort of meaningful.
The range 3-40 is enforced by the entry box in the game GUI.

Shortest nation name is 2. There are currently 13 of these. Example: 7p. This lower bound is enforced by the entry box in the game GUI.
Longest nation name is 40, even though the entry box limits it to 22. There are 42 nations with a name longer than what the GUI allows. Longest is ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerica.

My suggestion would be to set the entry box maximum limit to 40, and enforce this limit in the game as well so that circumventing the entry box limit doesn't work anymore.

Ballotonia

If I knew that was going to be the longest nation name, I would have named it something less idiotic.

I didn't even realize there was a different limit.

The only thing I can figure to get around the 22 character limit is to create your nation on a phone. The limit has always been 40 characters for me when I use my POS Nokia.

[Luna Amore]

Bizarrely, the longest pre-title I can manage is 28 characters.

Alpha Centauri has the longest I've seen at a ridiculous 120 characters, but I suspect he didn't have a choice in the matter.

[Bears Armed]

Bizarrely, the longest pre-title I can manage is 28 characters.

Alpha Centauri has the longest I've seen at a ridiculous 120 characters, but I suspect he didn't have a choice in the matter.

(Maybe he could change it back to a more conventional one, but has decided to keep the Mods' version because of its uniqueness?)

Anyway, I really "need" 36 characters (including spaces) to write this nation's pre-title properly: We're actually 'The Confederated Clans of the Free Bears of Bears Armed'...

[Luna Amore]

Bizarrely, the longest pre-title I can manage is 28 characters.

Alpha Centauri has the longest I've seen at a ridiculous 120 characters, but I suspect he didn't have a choice in the matter.

:rofl:
(Maybe he could change it back to a more conventional one, but has decided to keep the Mods' version because of its uniqueness?)

Anyway, I really "need" 36 characters (including spaces) to write this nation's pre-title properly: We're actually 'The Confederated Clans of the Free Bears of Bears Armed'...

You could do 'The Free Confederated Bear Clans of' or 'The Confederated Free Bear Clans of' instead. Both are 28 characters.

And yeah, I'm guessing why he hasn't changed it. Who would want to lose that beautiful monstrosity?

[Flibbleites]

Bizarrely, the longest pre-title I can manage is 28 characters.

Alpha Centauri has the longest I've seen at a ridiculous 120 characters, but I suspect he didn't have a choice in the matter.

Not true, he chose to use an illegal term in one of his custom fields. Now the ones that get given to haze the new mods on the other hand...

[The Montiarian Empire]

So, is that a yes or a no?

[Ballotonia]

So, is that a yes or a no?

We're just discussing the topic until an Admin comes by and says 'yes' or 'no'. Or 'maybe'. Or 'later'.

And sometimes an Admin never drops by.

NB: this isn't something a forum or game moderator can alter.

Ballotonia

[The Murtunian Tribes]

As a general rule of thumb if you ask to make something in this game bigger for the sheer sake of it being bigger, the answer is usually no.

[Luna Amore]

As a general rule of thumb if you ask to make something in this game bigger for the sheer sake of it being bigger, the answer is usually no.

From what I understand, this is more a question of raising the limit to what is already possible. The game limits you to 22 characters, but you can make a 40 character nation, you just have to go about it in an odd way. Why not make this easily available to everyone?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Nation name length is almost twice as long as the input box?

The irritation I underwent when I created my puppet nation has just come back.
"the Samozniy Space Corps" is one or two characters too long, so it had to be cut back to "The Federal Republic of Samozniy Space Corps".
Grrr.

[[violet]]

The game limits you to 22 characters, but you can make a 40 character nation, you just have to go about it in an odd way. Why not make this easily available to everyone?

Indeed! Fixed!

There are two ways the game sets maximum lengths on fields: by telling your browser how long a field should be, and by checking the length of what you submit. The former, if it's respected by the browser, actually stops you typing any more than the maximum length into the text box, and thus is handy for reducing the annoyance factor of entering some text, clicking submit, and only then discovering it's too long. It's easily circumvented, though, which makes it fairly useless as an actual strict limit. Hence the latter method.

Over time we've bumped up the game-enforced limits, but these old browser-enforced max-lengths were still hanging around. So now I've raised those to match the game-enforced limits.

[Luna Amore]

Huzzah, thanks [violet]!

In honor of this occassion, I've created what I feel is an appropriate puppet.
Good Things Come To Those Who Wait

[The Murtunian Tribes]

As a general rule of thumb if you ask to make something in this game bigger for the sheer sake of it being bigger, the answer is usually no.

From what I understand, this is more a question of raising the limit to what is already possible. The game limits you to 22 characters, but you can make a 40 character nation, you just have to go about it in an odd way. Why not make this easily available to everyone?

I said usually. There's a reason I'm not an admin (ok, a lot of reasons)

[The Montiarian Empire]

The game limits you to 22 characters, but you can make a 40 character nation, you just have to go about it in an odd way. Why not make this easily available to everyone?

Indeed! Fixed!

There are two ways the game sets maximum lengths on fields: by telling your browser how long a field should be, and by checking the length of what you submit. The former, if it's respected by the browser, actually stops you typing any more than the maximum length into the text box, and thus is handy for reducing the annoyance factor of entering some text, clicking submit, and only then discovering it's too long. It's easily circumvented, though, which makes it fairly useless as an actual strict limit. Hence the latter method.

Over time we've bumped up the game-enforced limits, but these old browser-enforced max-lengths were still hanging around. So now I've raised those to match the game-enforced limits.

Yay! Victory at last! Thanks [Violet]!

[Aglrinia]

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=long ... menamename

Their name goes into their forum post..., and it's obviously intentionally made that way.

[LongestLongestLongestLongestNameNameName]

No, it's not intentional. It's just a side effect of having a very long name without spaces I guess.

Although it is kind of annoying.