May I ask a question? -SOLVED/CLOSED-

[Sucrati]

How exactly is giving freedom to sell weapons to any customers, regardless if they are WA, Terrorists, or other countries, a giant hit on my political freedoms?

9 hours ago: Following new legislation in Sucrati, the nation has recently been attributed to the funding of terrorist organizations. - a 13 point drop in Political Freedoms, I know it wasn't allowing my military to be privatized or privatizing roads that killed the freedoms that much.

[Dukis]

It is possible that it is seen as indirect funding. You sell your weapons to one person and they give them to terrorists. The terrorists are seen killing people with your weapons so you are deemed responsible when really it is not your fault.

[Sucrati]

It is possible that it is seen as indirect funding. You sell your weapons to one person and they give them to terrorists. The terrorists are seen killing people with your weapons so you are deemed responsible when really it is not your fault.

But how does that hurt my political freedoms?

[The Rich Port]

It is possible that it is seen as indirect funding. You sell your weapons to one person and they give them to terrorists. The terrorists are seen killing people with your weapons so you are deemed responsible when really it is not your fault.

But how does that hurt my political freedoms?

Maybe the terrorists are using it to suppress the freedoms of others? You ever think about that possibility?

[Atoll-K]

But how does that hurt my political freedoms?

Maybe the terrorists are using it to suppress the freedoms of others? You ever think about that possibility?

That's odd, since in another (awesome ) issue you can legalize terrorism as a legitimate form of expression, and get a political freedoms boost.

[The Rich Port]

Maybe the terrorists are using it to suppress the freedoms of others? You ever think about that possibility?

That's odd, since in another (awesome ) issue you can legalize terrorism as a legitimate form of expression, and get a political freedoms boost.

Well, you're letting them be terrorists, not giving already-terrorists guns so they can really put an oomph on the "terror" part. Makes one wonder whether those terrorists you let terrorize are "terrorizing" people with sticks. Or wood bombs.

[Dukis]

It really seems backwards. You are giving people the right to do something so your amount of freedoms goes down????? It actually could be an after affect of some other legislation? Maybe? Possibly?

[Eaglleia]

It really seems backwards. You are giving people the right to do something so your amount of freedoms goes down????? It actually could be an after affect of some other legislation? Maybe? Possibly?

I doubt it. The same happned to me.
And on a side note: Is this the right forum? (Got issues is for issues, technical is for bugs and stuff.)

[Sucrati]

It really seems backwards. You are giving people the right to do something so your amount of freedoms goes down????? It actually could be an after affect of some other legislation? Maybe? Possibly?

I doubt it. The same happned to me.
And on a side note: Is this the right forum? (Got issues is for issues, technical is for bugs and stuff.)

i posted in technical

if anything economic freedoms should have gone up

[Eaglleia]

I doubt it. The same happned to me.
And on a side note: Is this the right forum? (Got issues is for issues, technical is for bugs and stuff.)

i posted in technical

if anything economic freedoms should have gone up

There are no 'economic-freedoms' shown there. The graph and rating on your nations main page is economic strength.

Pretending you used the word 'strength' instead of 'freedoms':
Yes, but if you've recently made any decisions affecting your economy, they will 'neutralise' each other. Besides; it seems to me that it takes at least two economic decisions for it to go up. Thats how its seemed to me anyway. It's been 96/100 for me for a looong time.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

Actually, the rating is economic freedom. While economic strength is the one displayed on your page, freedom is the one used to calculate what type of nation you are, how strong your economy is, etc.

As far as political freedoms going down, it's because that kind of policy is mired in corruption and scandal. Anything that boosts the level of corruption in your government is going to reduce your political freedoms.

[Sucrati]

Actually, the rating is economic freedom. While economic strength is the one displayed on your page, freedom is the one used to calculate what type of nation you are, how strong your economy is, etc.

As far as political freedoms going down, it's because that kind of policy is mired in corruption and scandal. Anything that boosts the level of corruption in your government is going to reduce your political freedoms.

^^^Best reasoning^^^

Now I understand... but that large a hit is still well disturbing.

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The issue looks correct to me. You're referring to this option:

"Why stop with making weapons for ourselves?" asks Sandra May, CEO of Wendy's Weapons stores. "We can sell them to all sorts of groups and organisations: other nations, the WA, terror- uh - freedom fighters, anyone! And we produce our own for our protection. Think of the money we can make! I'm sure none of our clients would ever even think of trying to use them to influence our government with threats or anything like that!"

While I can see a case for arguing that this option should increase civil rights, or (less clearly) economic freedoms--since you are basically permitting anyone to buy military-grade weapons--I don't see an argument for an increase in political freedom. As a few posters above suggested, and as hinted by the option itself, you're arming political groups, which gives them the ability to win power by violence and intimidation rather than opinion.

Edit: Also, the reason it was a large drop (13 points) and not a small or unnoticeable one is that your nation was/is very free politically, so this was a big change. It might have gone unnoticed in a dictatorship.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

Hmmm? You mean it doesn't give an economic boost? I always assumed it did. FIgured deregulating your econonmy and increasing your market-base for a very lucrative industry would be good for business.