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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Ballotonia » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:37 am

[violet] wrote:
Pythagosaurus wrote:And, due to the game being designed by an author,

You are totally gonna get fired.


Better punishment: make him write a book. Then we all get to make fun of him for doing worse than Max Barry :p

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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Pythagosaurus » Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:11 pm

Ballotonia wrote:Better punishment: make him write a book. Then we all get to make fun of him for doing worse than Max Barry :p

I tried that once, and then I turned 11.

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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Glen-Rhodes » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:11 pm

Am I the only one that doesn't like this? :palm:

Emphasizing words in international law doesn't really scream legitimate to me. Isn't the goal to look as legitimate as possible, or something? Anyways... if we have excessive BBCode pimping, I'm going to be very sad.
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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Unibot » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:40 pm

Pythagosaurus wrote:OK, there's now a [proposal]id[/proposal] tag, but it's not very user friendly yet. To get the ID, you need to view the page source and search for the proposal. At the bottom, you'll find something like this: <input type="hidden" name="proposal" value="new_rockport_1248541413">. The proposal ID in this case is new_rockport_1248541413.


One part of me says that more user friendly would be good, the other part of me says that in this specific case, a routine like this is actually a wiser implementation. Why : Proposals tags could be abused by new, new proposal writers. By making it a little bit of work to set up a proposal tag, it will help deter that, and maybe even encourage new players to come to the forums to ask WA regulars all about campaigning. Realistically however it's probably going to be mods and admins that get the majority of "Howz do I make proposel links!?" questions. Maybe a WA sticky on Campaigning would be a good idea?

Oh and by the way : Thank You, you're a Saint! :lol:

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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Topid » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:59 pm

Unibot wrote:Oh and by the way : Thank You, you're a Saint! :lol:

No really, is there a way we can make this official?

"to view the page source" That seems to be the part I'm not understanding on how to use proposal tags...
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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Unibot » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:29 pm

Okay Topid, I'll try and help you...

Let's say if we were creating a proposal tag for "Commend Mad Sheep Railgun"

Go to the Queue page with the proposal on it, (in this case, Page 3)

If you have Internet Explorer, on the top bar, click View > Page Source.
If you have Mozilla, right click, and click "View Page Source" on the drop down menu
If you have Google Chrome right click, and click "View Page Source" on the drop down menu

The Page Source is just the HTML code that the page is displayed with.

Scan the coding till you find the proposal mentioned in the code...

<form method="post" action="page=UN_proposal/start=10"><input type="hidden" name="proposal" value="mad_sheep_railgun_1249236477"><input type="hidden" name="council" value=""><input type="hidden" name="start" value="10">
</td></tr>


The bold section is the important part, it can be found just below the mentioning of the specific resolution you want.
It's the resolution's id.

Now try and telegram me or even better, a puppet (so you can see the result for yourself) using it between [proposal] tags...

[proposal]mad_sheep_railgun_1249236477[/proposal]


The telegram should come out as a link displaying...



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Hope that helps!
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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Topid » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:35 pm

Oh! That did. THANK YOU! :hug:

Just a note: In my attempts to find out how this work I tried clicking using the "find a proposal" button, but no matter what you search for it takes you to the very top of page one...
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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Almajoya » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:43 pm

Linux and the X wrote:
Tanaara wrote:HA! Despite Reppys quick cover it has now come out for certain! Our beloved [Violet] has outted her/ himself - Max Berry,
Reploid Productions wrote:And, due to the game being designed by an author,
You are totally gonna get fired.
you gave yourself away!

It's just a prediction. [violet] has not outed herself as Mr Barry.


Did it occur to any of you that Tan might be joking?!

Sheesh. Don't make me call the nutria on you.

Btw, I'm impressed that Google Chrome is being taken into consideration for coding. Even though to my knowledge it still only runs on Windows....
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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Unibot » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:58 pm

Btw, I'm impressed that Google Chrome is being taken into consideration for coding. Even though to my knowledge it still only runs on Windows....


And what's the Windows-using world? Like 90% of Computer-users? :p

Oh! That did. THANK YOU! :hug:


No problem bud, happy campaigning!

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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Pythagosaurus » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:25 pm

Google Chrome is not being taken into consideration for coding. 0% of the admins use Windows. There is Chromium, but sources tell me it's not really usable yet. I haven't tried. Firefox has too many things I couldn't really do without.

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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Almajoya » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:32 pm

Pythagosaurus wrote:Google Chrome is not being taken into consideration for coding. 0% of the admins use Windows. There is Chromium, but sources tell me it's not really usable yet. I haven't tried. Firefox has too many things I couldn't really do without.


Ah, I see.

I knew I liked you admins :P

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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:39 pm

We could always link to proposals. http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_pro ... I%20EUROPE

and...shock! I'm in agreement with Glen-Rhodes on this. It's basically an open-door invitation for players to abuse a new feature, meaning more rules will have to be instituted. And if rules inevitably have to be created to restrict the use of bold and italics, why enable the tags in the first place?

And what exactly is the point to linking to proposals in other proposals? Or do the proposal tags only work on the forum?
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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Topid » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:44 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:We could always link to proposals. http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_pro ... I%20EUROPE

and...shock! I'm in agreement with Glen-Rhodes on this. It's basically an open-door invitation for players to abuse a new feature, meaning more rules will have to be instituted. And if rules inevitably have to be created to restrict the use of bold and italics, why enable the tags in the first place?

And what exactly is the point to linking to proposals in other proposals? Or do the proposal tags only work on the forum?

They work in TG's too, so this means easier approval campaigns. I don't think they work in proposals... don't know though...

And the link you used wouldn't work in a TG, which I think is the point... plus if there are two proposals with that name, that way won't work for the second will it??
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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Pythagosaurus » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:06 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:It's basically an open-door invitation for players to abuse a new feature, meaning more rules will have to be instituted. And if rules inevitably have to be created to restrict the use of bold and italics, why enable the tags in the first place?


Let me make sure I've got this argument right. We would need to make rules to govern the use of feature X; therefore, feature X shouldn't exist in the first place. Sorry. You're going to have to do better than that. Yes, it can be abused. It can also be used to improve the appearance of resolutions. Deal with it.

No, there's no good reason for linking to proposals in other proposals. They can be used anywhere the other tags can be used, such as telegrams and regional message boards. I can imagine reasons to link to past resolutions in proposals, though, and I do expect to implement this soonish.

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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Pythagosaurus » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:49 pm

OK, I've added a new format, since the forum couldn't really take the old one:
Code: Select all
[proposal=id]Link Text[/proposal]

This will always just generate a link to the given proposal with the given link text, with no logic about whether or not the proposal still exists.

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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Bears Armed » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:18 am

Pythagosaurus wrote:I can imagine reasons to link to past resolutions in proposals, though,
Oh?
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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Topid » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:30 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Pythagosaurus wrote:I can imagine reasons to link to past resolutions in proposals, though,
Oh?
:?:

The World Assembly hereby Commends Sionis Prioratus for authoring [resolution=55]this resolution[/resolution]

(just an example of it's use, and no clue if that's how it would work... :lol: )
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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Bears Armed » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:10 am

Topid wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:
Pythagosaurus wrote:I can imagine reasons to link to past resolutions in proposals, though,
Oh?
:?:

The World Assembly hereby Commends Sionis Prioratus for authoring [resolution=55]this resolution[/resolution]

(just an example of it's use, and no clue if that's how it would work... :lol: )

I'm more accustomed to (and thinking more in terms of) what are now called 'General Assembly' proposals: We have a rule there against including what the Mods call 'House of Cards' references, i.e. ones that would become useless if the earlier resolution[s] being referred to in them were ever repealed...
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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Topid » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:12 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Topid wrote:The World Assembly hereby Commends Sionis Prioratus for authoring [resolution=55]this resolution[/resolution]

(just an example of it's use, and no clue if that's how it would work... :lol: )

I'm more accustomed to (and thinking more in terms of) what are now called 'General Assembly' proposals: We have a rule there against including what the Mods call 'House of Cards' references, i.e. ones that would become useless if the earlier resolution[s] being referred to in them were ever repealed...

Right. And I can't think of a way for them to be used there without it being illegal.

But, in the SC anyway...
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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Glen-Rhodes » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:53 pm

It seems that the proposal tag doesn't work in TGs. :\

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Re: Bold, Italics and Underline in WA Resolutions

Postby Topid » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:56 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:It seems that the proposal tag doesn't work in TGs. :\

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Yes it does I sent a couple with a space between the = and the other thingy by mistake. If you take out the space, it works fine. :oops:
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