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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:33 am

Hulldom wrote:That’s amazing news! So I guess another question is, and sort of pursuant to Riemst’s post from up the thread, is there anything else that can be shared at this point regarding season 3? I know certain tidbits about it actually happening (there’s an image of Fris apparently confirming it in the cards server) have come up before, but I’m just curious if there’s anything else that can be shared on its timeline.

That's really a question that needs to go to Fris. The cards were designed ages ago, but there are several market/deck related changes coming alongside it which are partially but not fully done, as far as I am aware. It's not my place to reveal what those are.

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Postby Trotterdam » Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:27 am

Sedgistan wrote:N-Day: February 25th 22:00 GMT
Is this referencing any particular out-of-game occasion (like how Z-Day references Halloween, the original August date for N-Day referenced the International Day against Nuclear Tests, and the September date supposedly references some day that I can't find on Wikipedia), or was it just chosen for being conveniently far away from other events on the calendar?

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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:33 am

N-Day timing: our regular one has always been around the end of September. It's now "fixed" as the last Saturday in September. Doing a second 6 months on would be the end of March... which could overshadow whatever happens on April Fools'. Hence moving it to last Saturday of February.

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:52 pm

Sedgistan wrote:That's really a question that needs to go to Fris.

While it is my area to make the requests of the devs, I have no specific knowledge or control over their schedules. In simplest terms, I don't know.

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Postby Hulldom » Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:01 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:That's really a question that needs to go to Fris.

While it is my area to make the requests of the devs, I have no specific knowledge or control over their schedules. In simplest terms, I don't know.

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Postby Riemstagrad » Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:56 am

I think a new season every 2 years is enough.
And you really don't need a complete overhaul of the card-design for every new season. A seasonal symbol can be enough, maybe combined with a slight shift in color-tone. A complete redesign every n seasons is good enough.

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Postby Narvatus » Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:12 am

While I do not necessarily expect any major date changes on the posted events, I do feel like having three events in February alone and then only two events (excluding the issues contest which to me does not really feel like a proper event) during the (northern hemisphere) summer feels like odd spacing.

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Postby Haganham » Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:56 am

Ooh a cards against nationstates event? That's good. I always wanted to play.
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:43 am

Narvatus wrote:the issues contest which to me does not really feel like a proper event

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Postby RedBrickLand » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:21 am

Narvatus wrote:(excluding the issues contest which to me does not really feel like a proper event)

Are you kidding me? The issues contest is the best thing ever #notbiased

Btw, what is cards against nationstates? I assume it's something to do with Trading Cards. Can someone please explain?
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Postby Heidgaudr » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:47 am

RedBrickLand wrote:
Narvatus wrote:(excluding the issues contest which to me does not really feel like a proper event)

Are you kidding me? The issues contest is the best thing ever #notbiased

Btw, what is cards against nationstates? I assume it's something to do with Trading Cards. Can someone please explain?

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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:50 am

It's always live on the site: https://www.nationstates.net/page=cards

But without anyone organising something, no-one plays. We also haven't added cards to it for ages.
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:17 am

Riemstagrad wrote:I think a new season every 2 years is enough.
And you really don't need a complete overhaul of the card-design for every new season. A seasonal symbol can be enough, maybe combined with a slight shift in color-tone. A complete redesign every n seasons is good enough.

Nation stats change, so appropriate Rarity levels change.
Flags can change.
Nations' home regions can change.
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Postby Makko Oko » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:20 am

Sedgistan wrote:It's always live on the site: https://www.nationstates.net/page=cards

But without anyone organising something, no-one plays. We also haven't added cards to it for ages.


Idea: What if we added card trading to the global trade fair event? It'd promote playing the game and at the same time, maybe give better distribution of cards
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Postby Bawkie » Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:38 am

Thank you for the information above. I look forward to these events, but I wish for a future cards season to be given attention in the future.

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Postby Ankuran » Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:12 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Riemstagrad wrote:I think a new season every 2 years is enough.
And you really don't need a complete overhaul of the card-design for every new season. A seasonal symbol can be enough, maybe combined with a slight shift in color-tone. A complete redesign every n seasons is good enough.

Nation stats change, so appropriate Rarity levels change.
Flags can change.
Nations' home regions can change.


Think they were referring to changes to the template, not suggesting that the information in the cards should never change.
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Postby Fauzjhia » Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:21 am

Ankuran wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Nation stats change, so appropriate Rarity levels change.
Flags can change.
Nations' home regions can change.


Think they were referring to changes to the template, not suggesting that the information in the cards should never change.



I think we can certain that cards informations and rarity are going to change with how the nations grow overtime.
a simple exemple would be my puppet (ferlhizlishia)
it has a card : https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/card=3045173 that show, the nation only had a single gold badge during its card creation.
today, it has 37 gold bagdes, so that's a lot more, and there are a lot of nations whose stats increased in such a way.

edit:
Been wondering for a while. but what's NS server capacity ? about the number of nation for example. Can it handle 275 000+ nations ?
although, I could understand if that information has to remain secret.
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Postby The Orwell Society » Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:12 pm

Makko Oko wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:It's always live on the site: https://www.nationstates.net/page=cards

But without anyone organising something, no-one plays. We also haven't added cards to it for ages.


Idea: What if we added card trading to the global trade fair event? It'd promote playing the game and at the same time, maybe give better distribution of cards

Nah... the current cards game is best kept alone in my opinion, other than adding new seasons. The Global Trade Fair is also best left by itself, albeit some possible changes.

As for the "give better distribution of cards" idea, we traders all know the fun of the cards minigame lies in the rampant capitalism that it is based upon. :p
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Postby Panagouge » Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:46 pm

Fauzjhia wrote:
Ankuran wrote:
Think they were referring to changes to the template, not suggesting that the information in the cards should never change.



I think we can certain that cards informations and rarity are going to change with how the nations grow overtime.
a simple exemple would be my puppet (ferlhizlishia)
it has a card : https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/card=3045173 that show, the nation only had a single gold badge during its card creation.
today, it has 37 gold bagdes, so that's a lot more, and there are a lot of nations whose stats increased in such a way.

edit:
Been wondering for a while. but what's NS server capacity ? about the number of nation for example. Can it handle 275 000+ nations ?
although, I could understand if that information has to remain secret.

I suspect it shall be a secret until it becomes a severe point for server stability. If they have to force the making of Wombles due to reaching critical failure points only then shall we now...
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:31 am

Fauzjhia wrote:
Ankuran wrote:
Think they were referring to changes to the template, not suggesting that the information in the cards should never change.



I think we can certain that cards informations and rarity are going to change with how the nations grow overtime.
a simple exemple would be my puppet (ferlhizlishia)
it has a card : https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/card=3045173 that show, the nation only had a single gold badge during its card creation.
today, it has 37 gold bagdes, so that's a lot more, and there are a lot of nations whose stats increased in such a way.

edit:
Been wondering for a while. but what's NS server capacity ? about the number of nation for example. Can it handle 275 000+ nations ?
although, I could understand if that information has to remain secret.


NationStates server capacity is well outside the scope of this topic.
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Postby Haganham » Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:06 pm

in the name of our most violaceous mistress I bid this thread ARISE!

Ehem, So I know the Secretary-General Election was delayed due to issues with getting tech changes done in time for it. Are there any other that aren't planned to happen as scheduled? Mostly asking about nday.
Imagine reading a signature, but over the course of it the quality seems to deteriorate and it gets wose an wose, where the swenetence stwucture and gwammer rewerts to a pwoint of uttew non swence, an u jus dont wanna wead it anymwore (o´ω`o) awd twa wol owdewl iws jus awfwul (´・ω・`);. bwt tw sinawtur iwswnwt obwer nyet, it gwos own an own an own an own. uwu wanyaa stwop weadwing bwut uwu cwant stop wewding, uwu stwartd thwis awnd ur gwoing two fwinibsh it nowo mwattew wat! uwu hab mwoxie kwiddowo, bwut uwu wibl gwib ub sowon. i cwan wite wike dis fwor owors, swo dwont cwalengbe mii..

… wbats dis??? uwu awe stwill weedinb mwie sinatwr?? uwu habe awot ob detewemwinyanyatiom!! 。◕‿◕。! u habve comopweedid tha signwtr, good job!

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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:02 am

Chingis hasn't been around a few days, so I'll answer: I believe the intention was to run this N-Day the same as the last one (i.e. with no further changes made) so yes, that'll go ahead as scheduled.

Best Nation, there was discussion here about potentially changing eligibility. I don't know whether that's going to be possible in time for the 14th. I would currently still expect that to run on the 14th, but can't give quite the same certainty on that.

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Postby El Lazaro » Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:39 pm

Nice to have them on a calendar. Is this more events than usual or have I just missed a lot?

Honeydewistania wrote:If there are going to be two annual SecGen elections, can you create a special telegram category for election campaigning? Otherwise the WA scene will be dead in the dust.

Also, are the dates chosen for a specific reason or just random? (For every event) (Besides being on a Saturday)

Plus you forgot Z-Day 2023 :p Unless that's cancelled???

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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:19 am

Sedgistan wrote:Best Nation, there was discussion here about potentially changing eligibility. I don't know whether that's going to be possible in time for the 14th. I would currently still expect that to run on the 14th, but can't give quite the same certainty on that.

It'll be going ahead, and without so many puppets as last time.

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Postby Best » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:12 pm

The old best nation leaderboard is labeled as "2022", but it's from 2021.

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