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Postby Terra Britania » Wed May 20, 2020 10:54 pm

Hello. I'm not usually in this part of the forum, so I apologise if I posted in the wrong place.

In any case, this is regarding the on-site factbooks. In multiple attempts to update one of them, which admittedly is rather long, I was slapped with this message each and every time:
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Was there a character or kilobyte or some other sort of limit in the factbooks I was never told about, or is this some other issue? Thanks.
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed May 20, 2020 11:43 pm

And of note is that your factbook, as of now, has 79,196 characters, including space, and BBCodes. Excluding title, but even with title, I say around 79250, give or take.

You can view the raw factbook by either editing it, or if you want to, click on the title to "turn" the factbook into a dispatch view, then click on Raw at the bottom.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1280256/raw=1

But admittedly, the "Edit" button and selecting all and pasting it in Word is easier to do a word count.
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Postby Terra Britania » Thu May 21, 2020 12:04 am


Valentine Z wrote:And of note is that your factbook, as of now, has 79,196 characters, including space, and BBCodes. Excluding title, but even with title, I say around 79250, give or take.

You can view the raw factbook by either editing it, or if you want to, click on the title to "turn" the factbook into a dispatch view, then click on Raw at the bottom.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1280256/raw=1

But admittedly, the "Edit" button and selecting all and pasting it in Word is easier to do a word count.

Thank you!

Though, according to MS Word, the factbook (including the updated section that doesn't want to go through) has ~80,578 characters, inlcuding spaces and BBcodes. If the limit is about 97,000, that means I have approximately 16,422 more characters of leeway to put in before reaching the supposed limit. I wonder where they went? :deepthonk:

In any case, I think I'll be dividing and conquering this factbook instead of trying to push it. To be honest, it's become more of an obnoxious wall of text than a mildly interesting bite-sized read.
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Postby Merni » Thu May 21, 2020 12:08 am

Terra Britania wrote:Though, according to MS Word, the factbook (including the updated section that doesn't want to go through) has ~80,578 characters, inlcuding spaces and BBcodes. If the limit is about 97,000, that means I have approximately 16,422 more characters of leeway to put in before reaching the supposed limit. I wonder where they went? :deepthonk:

Maybe the system counts based on bytes and not characters. Non-ASCII characters require more than 1 byte (up to 4) to store in UTF8.
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Postby All Wild Things » Thu May 21, 2020 7:28 am

Terra Britania wrote:

Valentine Z wrote:And of note is that your factbook, as of now, has 79,196 characters, including space, and BBCodes. Excluding title, but even with title, I say around 79250, give or take.

You can view the raw factbook by either editing it, or if you want to, click on the title to "turn" the factbook into a dispatch view, then click on Raw at the bottom.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1280256/raw=1

But admittedly, the "Edit" button and selecting all and pasting it in Word is easier to do a word count.

Thank you!

Though, according to MS Word, the factbook (including the updated section that doesn't want to go through) has ~80,578 characters, inlcuding spaces and BBcodes. If the limit is about 97,000, that means I have approximately 16,422 more characters of leeway to put in before reaching the supposed limit. I wonder where they went? :deepthonk:

In any case, I think I'll be dividing and conquering this factbook instead of trying to push it. To be honest, it's become more of an obnoxious wall of text than a mildly interesting bite-sized read.

I have a habit of using two space characters between a full stop and the next sentence. However, NS displays these as a single space character. I had a long dispatch that hit the limit, so used a search and replace to change my double spacing to single.
Though on consideration, I'd be surprised if that would take up more than around 1000 characters of a dispatch.

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri May 22, 2020 4:45 pm

All Wild Things wrote:
Terra Britania wrote:
Thank you!

Though, according to MS Word, the factbook (including the updated section that doesn't want to go through) has ~80,578 characters, inlcuding spaces and BBcodes. If the limit is about 97,000, that means I have approximately 16,422 more characters of leeway to put in before reaching the supposed limit. I wonder where they went? :deepthonk:

In any case, I think I'll be dividing and conquering this factbook instead of trying to push it. To be honest, it's become more of an obnoxious wall of text than a mildly interesting bite-sized read.

I have a habit of using two space characters between a full stop and the next sentence. However, NS displays these as a single space character. I had a long dispatch that hit the limit, so used a search and replace to change my double spacing to single.
Though on consideration, I'd be surprised if that would take up more than around 1000 characters of a dispatch.

I think - and this isn't fixing the bug, but more working around it, you could have a separate archived news book full of the old headlines, if they are taking up too much space in the raw data.
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