Residency based polls

[[violet]]

Pretty sure [S] is for suggestions. I don't know.

Now, I'm in a pretty big region, the UCR. We have a *lot* of people that vote on things when we only want citizens to be able to vote. One of our criteria is residency based, but it's an absolute pain to search through 30+ nations just to see if they've been in the region long enough. Would it be possible to implement a feature in the polls that lets you enter an amount of time someone has to be in the region for them to vote?

[Imperial Xenon]

I'm in full support

[Langor Empire]

That'd be a nice feature.

[Sparkdottir]

This is honestly an absolute need. New people's votes who have yet to qualify as true residents in a given region's criteria can make the election results much different from what they actually are.

[Retiva]

yes

EDIT: as per request of mod i shall be constructive (although there is only one other post that is constructive in this thread, ironically)

It'd be very helpful to have this feature for polls because, as Sparkdottir stated, many regions, at least the bigger ones, have criterions for citizenships which bestows upon them rights within the region, and a lot of this is based on how long the nation has been staying in the region. Although it would be easy to just look at the polling results and discount those who don't qualify, it'd be at least that much more convenient. Puppets that have been sitting in the dust used for voting can be excluded from the final results, but that's besides the point.

[Mallorea and Riva]

yes

Posts like this aren't really that helpful. We don't need "me too" posts, we need constructive comments so that Admin can see if the idea is good on its merits, not on its vote total. Just keep that in mind going forward.

[The Grand Puffle Republic]

yes

Posts like this aren't really that helpful. We don't need "me too" posts, we need constructive comments so that Admin can see if the idea is good on its merits, not on its vote total. Just keep that in mind going forward.

I say. What a well constructed reply.

Also, my opinion is that, yes this seems like a feesable addition to the polling system, though it would take some effort from the game creators to implement it. Alternatively, it would be a simple option to instate a forum where people can apply for citizenship by meeting certain criteria and post forms on the forum. This would help for regional policy and elections without causing the Nationstates head honchos to rewrite the code.

[Imperial Xenon]

Posts like this aren't really that helpful. We don't need "me too" posts, we need constructive comments so that Admin can see if the idea is good on its merits, not on its vote total. Just keep that in mind going forward.

I say. What a well constructed reply.

Also, my opinion is that, yes this seems like a feesable addition to the polling system, though it would take some effort from the game creators to implement it. Alternatively, it would be a simple option to instate a forum where people can apply for citizenship by meeting certain criteria and post forms on the forum. This would help for regional policy and elections without causing the Nationstates head honchos to rewrite the code.

That defeats the purpose of this thread and the Game Creators went to college and get paid to make new additions and add to it. Them doing work to add new things in isn't some horrible thing to be worried about so their job is easier.

[Potato]

I say. What a well constructed reply.

Also, my opinion is that, yes this seems like a feesable addition to the polling system, though it would take some effort from the game creators to implement it. Alternatively, it would be a simple option to instate a forum where people can apply for citizenship by meeting certain criteria and post forms on the forum. This would help for regional policy and elections without causing the Nationstates head honchos to rewrite the code.

That defeats the purpose of this thread and the Game Creators went to college and get paid to make new additions and add to it. Them doing work to add new things in isn't some horrible thing to be worried about so their job is easier.

>paid
Pretty sure the admins and game mods are volunteers.

[Leutria]

I say. What a well constructed reply.

Also, my opinion is that, yes this seems like a feesable addition to the polling system, though it would take some effort from the game creators to implement it. Alternatively, it would be a simple option to instate a forum where people can apply for citizenship by meeting certain criteria and post forms on the forum. This would help for regional policy and elections without causing the Nationstates head honchos to rewrite the code.

That defeats the purpose of this thread and the Game Creators went to college and get paid to make new additions and add to it. Them doing work to add new things in isn't some horrible thing to be worried about so their job is easier.

Ya, no. The site staff are all volunteers.

[The Grand Puffle Republic]

I say. What a well constructed reply.

Also, my opinion is that, yes this seems like a feesable addition to the polling system, though it would take some effort from the game creators to implement it. Alternatively, it would be a simple option to instate a forum where people can apply for citizenship by meeting certain criteria and post forms on the forum. This would help for regional policy and elections without causing the Nationstates head honchos to rewrite the code.

That defeats the purpose of this thread and the Game Creators went to college and get paid to make new additions and add to it. Them doing work to add new things in isn't some horrible thing to be worried about so their job is easier.

The game moderators and admins all volunteer their time. I'm not saying it's bad to make an addition, I'm just suggesting other ways.

[Leutria]

Anyway, back on topic, I do think this would be a good addition. It would let the person setting the poll decide what is long enough for the sake of taking part in the poll (a week, a month, 3 months...however long they want someone to have been there to get a say in the poll). Now, it would possibly make the natives restriction unused as I think setting a "Has been in the region for X days" would capture the same intention as the natives one, but I think it actually does a better job at it then "Nations that possess more Regional Influence here than in any other region".

[Novskya]

Pretty sure [S] is for suggestions. I don't know.

Now, I'm in a pretty big region, the UCR. We have a *lot* of people that vote on things when we only want citizens to be able to vote. One of our criteria is residency based, but it's an absolute pain to search through 30+ nations just to see if they've been in the region long enough. Would it be possible to implement a feature in the polls that lets you enter an amount of time someone has to be in the region for them to vote?

I'm in support. As regions get larger, more and more nations are willing to vote in polls. But, not everyone is a citizen. As the poll numbers increase, you have to sift through more and more people to find out whether or not they're citizens. Clearly a tedious task.
But, I see a problem. If a nation who previously had citizenship decided to make a puppet, move it to that region and replace his main with his puppet, then the puppet itself cannot vote. This is a very rare case due to the specificity required so it's hardly an argument against it.

[Dio Rias]

Hawt af boii

[Aclion]

Posts like this aren't really that helpful. We don't need "me too" posts, we need constructive comments so that Admin can see if the idea is good on its merits, not on its vote total. Just keep that in mind going forward.

I say. What a well constructed reply.

Also, my opinion is that, yes this seems like a feesable addition to the polling system, though it would take some effort from the game creators to implement it. Alternatively, it would be a simple option to instate a forum where people can apply for citizenship by meeting certain criteria and post forms on the forum. This would help for regional policy and elections without causing the Nationstates head honchos to rewrite the code.

You could take anything and do it offsite but I don't thing that's something that should be encouraged. If this change means more regional activity on the site then it's a good change in my book.

[Audioslavia]

Hawt af boii

Please don't spam. Cheers.

[Retiva]

I say. What a well constructed reply.

Also, my opinion is that, yes this seems like a feesable addition to the polling system, though it would take some effort from the game creators to implement it. Alternatively, it would be a simple option to instate a forum where people can apply for citizenship by meeting certain criteria and post forms on the forum. This would help for regional policy and elections without causing the Nationstates head honchos to rewrite the code.

You could take anything and do it offsite but I don't thing that's something that should be encouraged. If this change means more regional activity on the site then it's a good change in my book.

Agreed. It's also a small addition that doesn't really affect anything in terms of coding, but meaningful enough that could help regions be more organised with polling.

[Hoystein]

This could be done.

[Sri Maldives]

This is a good idea, and I'm in support. Nice thinking Krual!

[Torresiskstan]

I agree with the notion

Also hello Krual <3

[Slavatria]

I say. What a well constructed reply.

Also, my opinion is that, yes this seems like a feesable addition to the polling system, though it would take some effort from the game creators to implement it. Alternatively, it would be a simple option to instate a forum where people can apply for citizenship by meeting certain criteria and post forms on the forum. This would help for regional policy and elections without causing the Nationstates head honchos to rewrite the code.

You could take anything and do it offsite but I don't thing that's something that should be encouraged. If this change means more regional activity on the site then it's a good change in my book.

Agreed. Too much offsite activity can sometimes hurt the growth of a region. I've seen many regions purely stick to the NS site because of that. This would be a great addition and would encourage people to be active on NS rather than somewhere else. I am in full support of this polling feature.

[Kisinger]

This is a great idea that would offer support for regions who have a vetting process for their residents and allows regions to be able to control who votes in a very simple manner.

[[violet]]

Pretty sure [S] is for suggestions. I don't know.

I don't either. I routinely remove tags from topics in Technical because they're always unnecessary and often either misleading ("[BUG] Something that's not a bug") or incomprehensible ("[R]" - Request? Report? Response? Rant? - "[Q/R/S]" - ???).

Anyway, the easiest form of this idea would be a new checkbox like "long-term residents" that restricts polls to residents who have been there at least 28 days. I could implement that one without much trouble.

A more complicated version lets you specify the number of days residency. That's doable but needs more work, so would have to go on the longer-term ToDo list.

The ultra-flexible "citizenship" version that ties into whatever criteria your region uses for citizenship is basically impossible, because regions have all different criteria, often including something like registration on a third-party forum, which we can't track.

[North Krualstiken]

Pretty sure [S] is for suggestions. I don't know.

I don't either. I routinely remove tags from topics in Technical because they're always unnecessary and often either misleading ("[BUG] Something that's not a bug") or incomprehensible ("[R]" - Request? Report? Response? Rant? - "[Q/R/S]" - ???).

Anyway, the easiest form of this idea would be a new checkbox like "long-term residents" that restricts polls to residents who have been there at least 28 days. I could implement that one without much trouble.

A more complicated version lets you specify the number of days residency. That's doable but needs more work, so would have to go on the longer-term ToDo list.

The ultra-flexible "citizenship" version that ties into whatever criteria your region uses for citizenship is basically impossible, because regions have all different criteria, often including something like registration on a third-party forum, which we can't track.

Thanks for the support, everyone who chipped in, by the way. I, and and others, would most certainly like the second option, since it allows a lot more flexibility. I don't really care how long it takes. Take your time. I have no power over you, of course, you don't even have to do it. Eheh-. (Can you tell that I'm nervous speaking to you?). Do whatever feels right to you.

Also, the "citizenship version" isn't a thing that I suggested. Residency is just a thing that ties into being a citizen in many regions. Thanks for taking my idea into consideration !

[Ransium]

Pretty sure [S] is for suggestions. I don't know.

I don't either. I routinely remove tags from topics in Technical because they're always unnecessary and often either misleading ("[BUG] Something that's not a bug") or incomprehensible ("[R]" - Request? Report? Response? Rant? - "[Q/R/S]" - ???).

Anyway, the easiest form of this idea would be a new checkbox like "long-term residents" that restricts polls to residents who have been there at least 28 days. I could implement that one without much trouble.

A more complicated version lets you specify the number of days residency. That's doable but needs more work, so would have to go on the longer-term ToDo list.

The ultra-flexible "citizenship" version that ties into whatever criteria your region uses for citizenship is basically impossible, because regions have all different criteria, often including something like registration on a third-party forum, which we can't track.

Could you do option 1 for the short term and then implement option 2 when/if you had the time? Honestly, I think option 1 would be pretty helpful in my region and I'd hate to wait for perfect if we could easily have good.