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TalAkMaChen
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Democratic Socialists

Postby TalAkMaChen » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:06 pm

For completeness' sake, option 2 of #1529 (valid for nations with prisons) and option 3 (previously listed, here only for comparison):

2. And yet, the thought is unbearable. To see the light fade from another person’s eyes and know that their death is not only your fault, but your deliberate doing — how could you ever live with yourself? How could you go out and face the public tomorrow, haunted by the Count’s dying breath? How could you sleep at night, thinking of their face, the color slowly draining away even as your hands soak in their still-warm blood? No. Honour be damned; this is not worth anyone’s life. One good, hard shove. Throw them to the floor and let your guards deal with the rest. Take the Count back to prison — there will be no denying the treason charges this time — and they can rot in a maximum-security cell like they deserve.

3. And yet, the thought is unbearable. To see the light fade from another person’s eyes and know that their death is not only your fault, but your deliberate doing — how could you ever live with yourself? How could you go out and face the public tomorrow, haunted by the Count’s dying breath? How could you sleep at night, thinking of their face, the color slowly draining away even as your hands soak in their still-warm blood? No. Honour be damned; this is not worth anyone’s life. One good, hard shove. Throw them to the floor and let your guards deal with the rest. Take the Count away, exile them again — there will be no denying the treason charges this time — and they can languish, away from their family and friends like they deserve.


And an addition for checks:
1534+1533 "majority of @@DEMONYM_PLURAL@@", all names of speakers are random in their respective gender.

And also this addition:
1543,3 (as Capitalist alternate to the Socialist option 4, as suspected):
“The people love you, true, and maybe that is even partly due to the media,” agrees @@RANDOM_NAME@@, your eternally pragmatic Chancellor of the Exchequer. “Do you know what would make the people love you even more though? Tax breaks. Why should we pay for a bunch of pompous journalists to go around saying whatever they want if the public will ignore our content either way? Cut the media loose and let them compete on the free market like everybody else. We’ll save enough to give the citizens a tax cut, and we can pad our general fund at the same time. Everybody wins!”
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Capitalizt

Postby Jutsa » Thu Feb 02, 2023 2:34 pm

Friendly note that this occurred to 1554: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=40305734#p40305734

We have lost our italicized title. :P
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rocain Founder » Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:47 am

My puppet Cain M Inj v0 has discovered that option 3 of issue #28 (on euthanasia) has become optional. This nation has the Atheism policy, and it seems very likely that this policy is why this option was suppressed.
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rocain Founder » Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:53 am

Rocain Founder wrote:My puppet Cain M Ds Or-B v0 got issue #1553 as well, but got option 3 rather than option 2. This nation does in fact have No Computers.

[text elided]

I suspect that this option removes No Computers, but as my puppet has not answered it yet (and might not choose this option), I don't know that for sure.

For whatever it's worth, this nation does not have the No Internet policy.

[more text elided]


My puppet Cain A R-C Cs v1 got this issue with option 3 rather than option 2. This nation has the No Internet policy, but not No Computers. So it appears that if either computers or the internet are banned, you will get option 3 rather than option 2.

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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Jamilkhuze » Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:34 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
#1247 Suspension of the Disbelieved

The Issue

A patient accused Ward Nurse @@RANDOMMALENAME@@ of an inappropriately intimate physical examination, which resulted in his suspension from duty at @@NAME@@ Central Hospital. A series of investigations and legal meetings followed, involving hospital management, the patient ombudsman, the complaints review board, and eventually a magistrate's court of appeal. All in all, the nurse was suspended for a total of nine months before the complaint was dismissed and he was fully exonerated.

The Debate

1. "There's no protection for the reputation of professionals anymore," rants the accused nurse, waving a loaded syringe around as he speaks, spraying an unknown sticky white fluid in your face. "My name was in the local paper! The girl I was dating dumped me! Look, of course we must allow complaints. However, once a complaint has been dismissed, we should be able to take false accusers to court to hold them to account. I want compensation for my losses, one way or another." He leers disturbingly with this last statement.

2. "Why doesn't anyone believe me?" sobs @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, the complainant who levelled the allegations, as she surreptitiously peels an onion under the table. "For the sake of victims everywhere, you have to weigh in to protect people like me. Do you know how scary it was for me to come forward with this? You owe it to patient safety to trust the word of victims, and to permanently suspend perverts like this nurse!"

3. "As far as I can see, this whole problem has happened because it's one person's word against another," observes your Minister of Watching Watchmen. "We ought to enforce some transparency to medical proceedings, with every professional accompanied by a trained observer for all interactions, and each patient also encouraged to bring their own chaperone. That way, there'll always be at least one impartial observer to verify witness accounts."

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I highly suspect the genders are not random, although I highlighted pronouns just in case. I can definitely confirm that the names are fully random aside from gender, though.


The double entendre in #1 only really works if the nurse is specified to be male.

“There’s no protection for the reputation of professionals anymore,” rants the accused nurse, waving a loaded syringe around as he speaks, spraying an unknown sticky white fluid in your face.
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:13 pm

Please do not remind us of that.

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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rocain Founder » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:50 pm

Options 3 and 4 of issue #1425 have a similar problem if your leader happens to be female.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby TalAkMaChen » Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:09 am

Behold, another one!

#1558 Unequal Treatment? [Courelli; ed: Verdant Haven]

The Issue
During a press briefing, which had somehow been booked at a landscaping business on the rough side of town, one of your aides received a vicious paper cut. Almost immediately, your entourage found itself being led towards a set of dilapidated buildings to seek care. What your staff had mistaken for abandoned apartments turned out to be a hospital – a stark contrast to the world-class medical facilities in the posh enclaves across town.

The Debate
1. “For decades our health and well-being have been neglected, and we won’t take it any longer!” declares exasperated local resident @@RANDOM_NAME@@, lingering next to you in the waiting room. “Are we not @@DEMONYM@@, too? My neighborhood shouldn’t determine the quality of the healthcare facilities I visit, and I shouldn’t have to sit in a dingy waiting room for hours just to see an overworked triage nurse who’s already got twenty other patients! We demand more health subsidies for poor neighborhoods, and hey, maybe you can require that junior doctors serve in our hospitals for a few years, as a condition for getting their full license?”

2. “The problem isn’t the resources they have – it’s how they use them! Did you read about all the fraud, waste, and abuse going on?” interjects Minister of Health @@RANDOM_NAME@@, flipping through a spiral-bound copy of @@HIS@@ ministry’s latest several-hundred-page report. “Hospitals like this are typically poorly equipped, poorly maintained, and churn through staff, because their administration is too busy paying for executive washrooms in their offices, and ‘management retreats’ at fancy resorts. What they really need is additional oversight! Allocate funds to my budget and I’ll enact more stringent regulations, with routine inspections to ensure all hospitals are up to par.”

3. “You can’t put a bandage on a fourth degree burn and expect it to heal!” cries the hospital’s head surgeon, suddenly leaping into the room with a reflex hammer in one hand and a diagram of a sickle cell in the other. “This is a symptom of that great plague upon our nation: for-profit healthcare! The rich can afford luxury treatment while the poor suffer in dirty, understaffed hospitals, all while insurance and pharmaceutical companies profit off their hardship. The solution is clear: nationalize healthcare, and let us provide equal care for all, regardless of residence, finance, or social class!”

4. “If you don’t like the healthcare you’re getting, pack up and move,” butts-in @@RANDOM_NAME@@, a ‘self-made’ business@@MAN@@ here performing community service after @@HIS@@ most recent public escapades got reported to authorities. “What makes @@NAME@@ so great is that if you’re unhappy with your current conditions, you can change them with just a little hard work. The government doesn’t need to spend all this unnecessary money or make weird, complicated regulations. Instead, you should drastically cut your healthcare spending. That will encourage these unhappy people to find better jobs and improve their own circumstances. It’s the @@DEMONYM@@ way!”


I strongly suspect them to be fully randomized names, relevant items marked in blue. Once I get this one again, I'll adjust as needed.
I just got it again, different names, different genders. :)
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Valentine Z » Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:33 pm

Just would like to state that I am still watching this thread and of course I'm planning for the next edit! <3

So sorry for the lack of activity so far; habe been busy with both RL and other NS stuff.
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby West Barack and East Obama » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:22 am

TalAkMaChen wrote:Behold, another one!

[box]#1558 Unequal Treatment? [Courelli; ed: Verdant Haven]



While I have not received the issue personally, I believe this was co-authored by Erynia and Draconia, as they created the draft thread and are now a 2x issues author
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Civil Rights Lovefest

#1559 Skin's the Wrong Colour

Postby Land Without Shrimp » Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:14 am

#1559 Skin's the Wrong Colour

The Issue [The Spacefaring Federation of Sacara, ed. Candlewhisper Archive]
One of your nephews decided to go under the needle, and cover half of his body in a veritable panoply of tattoos depicting various scenes from a number of Nicolas Cage movies. As a result, he was fired from his job as a school receptionist.

The Debate
1. Your nephew, flexing his arm to make Ghost Rider and H. I. McDunnough dance with each other, complains to you: “This is nothing less than obvious discrimination! I was excelling at my job, had Employee of the Month three times running, my colleagues said I was a kick-ass national treasure. But as soon as I got all inked up, my job was stolen from me, gone in sixty seconds, given away to my assistant Mandy. There goes my job at Ridgemont High! You have to stop businesses from discriminating against those who want to express themselves. In fact, you have to protect the rights of free expression and bodily autonomy, and make sure that nobody ever is discriminated against for what they choose to write or draw on their body. You know, it could happen to anyone, it could happen to you.”

2. “There’s no good reason not to fire a person who chooses to put something like that on their body,” counters school governor Roxanne Martinez. “Personally, I don’t trust people who have tattoos; their rebellious self-mutilation suggests criminal nature and disrespect for authority. I want our employees to look professional, and to set a good example to children. He voluntarily altered his appearance, and the law must respect the right of employers to terminate employees who violate appearance standards.”

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Democratic Socialists

Postby TalAkMaChen » Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:34 am

West Barack and East Obama wrote:
TalAkMaChen wrote:Behold, another one!

[box]#1558 Unequal Treatment? [Courelli; ed: Verdant Haven]



While I have not received the issue personally, I believe this was co-authored by Erynia and Draconia, as they created the draft thread and are now a 2x issues author


Huh, perhaps. When I checked there was only one name :unsure:

Edit: confirmed: #1558 has [Erynia and Draconia, Courelli; ed: Verdant Haven]

Note on 1559: option 2 has a random name, I just received a "Hope Kamen"
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Valentine Z » Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:41 pm

Just as a teeny tiny heads-up, which I mean, it's okay if you missed it out now and then, but it'll be good if you encounter italics and other special formatting along the way in an issue.

For reporting, coloring is still fine, because I often times copy-paste without the code, then added the code later.

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Just a filler tbh, for the upcoming change today or tomorrow... Hopefully!
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Postby Courelli » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:08 am

TalAkMaChen wrote:
West Barack and East Obama wrote:
While I have not received the issue personally, I believe this was co-authored by Erynia and Draconia, as they created the draft thread and are now a 2x issues author


Huh, perhaps. When I checked there was only one name :unsure:

hello! yes, both Erynia and Draconia and I coauthored "Unequal Treatment?" :)
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Ex-Nation

Postby Nespolinia » Fri Mar 03, 2023 2:26 am

Hey, i want to write issue. Can you help me? Please!!

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Ex-Nation

Postby Nespolinia » Fri Mar 03, 2023 2:32 am

The Issue
A union of students of @@NAME@@ National University protested for getting humiliating marks for the answer, which were not exactly with the answers, but written similar answer that gives real meanings. A student asked teacher about it, but gave no answer. The @@DEMONYM_NOUN@@ Government was still silent about it and its time to answer and decide.

The Debate
1. "Its not necessary to put a word that no one understands at all!" a student @@RANDOM_NAME@@ exclaimed staring at each other. Concept is greater than the exact words. We inquire about it, but they don't listen to us at all. So, it is my request to the government that ban all these hard words forever in the country.
2. "Does this mean that you all are fool students?" suspected @@RANDOM_NAME@@, a teacher. "These words are all useful for you now and for your future. If you don't prepare yourself, what you will do then? So, be prepared. I ask government that they also use these unique words in everything like, nursery schools, schemes, etc.
3. "In my point of view, the concept is necessary, but also hard words are helpful." having cookies, the principal stated. "Hard words have so many meanings, that if you say that word, we will understand that they are trying to say. Makes more intelligent. No matter they want to learn. I just want to say they are important."

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Verdant Haven » Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:52 am

Nespolinia wrote:Hey, i want to write issue. Can you help me? Please!!


Howdy Nespolinia!

This thread is a place where folks discuss the effects and text of existing issues. If you'd like assistance drafting a submission of your own, there are two places to check:

The FAQ and How To Write Issues thread, with technical details, is here: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=424657

The "Writer's Block" thread, where folks help identify refine topics and ideas, is here: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=159868

When you've reviewed those and selected a topic, go ahead and post your own [Draft] thread in the main forum to work on the text and get feedback on how to shape your work.

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Ex-Nation

Slight Edit

Postby Zeksi » Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:37 am

Land Without Shrimp wrote:#1559 Skin's the Wrong Colour

The Issue [The Spacefaring Federation of Sacara, ed. Candlewhisper Archive]
One of your nephews decided to go under the needle, and cover half of his body in a veritable panoply of tattoos depicting various scenes from a number of Nicolas Cage movies. As a result, he was fired from his job as a school receptionist.

The Debate
1. Your nephew, flexing his arm to make Ghost Rider and H. I. McDunnough dance with each other, complains to you: “This is nothing less than obvious discrimination! I was excelling at my job, had Employee of the Month three times running, my colleagues said I was a kick-ass national treasure. But as soon as I got all inked up, my job was stolen from me, gone in sixty seconds, given away to my assistant Mandy. There goes my job at Ridgemont High! You have to stop businesses from discriminating against those who want to express themselves. In fact, you have to protect the rights of free expression and bodily autonomy, and make sure that nobody ever is discriminated against for what they choose to write or draw on their body. You know, it could happen to anyone, it could happen to you.”

2. “There’s no good reason not to fire a person who chooses to put something like that on their body,” counters school governor Roxanne Martinez. “Personally, I don’t trust people who have tattoos; their rebellious self-mutilation suggests criminal nature and disrespect for authority. I want our employees to look professional, and to set a good example to children. He voluntarily altered his appearance, and the law must respect the right of employers to terminate employees who violate appearance standards.”


Do we discuss ideas and edits for issues here?
I suggest to lightly modify "Nicolas Cage" name and related film names to be more in style of other issues in NationStates (like Arnorl Weissenegger and alike)

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Democratic Socialists

Postby TalAkMaChen » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:41 am

Zeksi wrote:
Land Without Shrimp wrote:#1559 Skin's the Wrong Colour

The Issue [The Spacefaring Federation of Sacara, ed. Candlewhisper Archive]
One of your nephews decided to go under the needle, and cover half of his body in a veritable panoply of tattoos depicting various scenes from a number of Nicolas Cage movies. As a result, he was fired from his job as a school receptionist.

The Debate
1. Your nephew, flexing his arm to make Ghost Rider and H. I. McDunnough dance with each other, complains to you: “This is nothing less than obvious discrimination! I was excelling at my job, had Employee of the Month three times running, my colleagues said I was a kick-ass national treasure. But as soon as I got all inked up, my job was stolen from me, gone in sixty seconds, given away to my assistant Mandy. There goes my job at Ridgemont High! You have to stop businesses from discriminating against those who want to express themselves. In fact, you have to protect the rights of free expression and bodily autonomy, and make sure that nobody ever is discriminated against for what they choose to write or draw on their body. You know, it could happen to anyone, it could happen to you.”

2. “There’s no good reason not to fire a person who chooses to put something like that on their body,” counters school governor Roxanne Martinez. “Personally, I don’t trust people who have tattoos; their rebellious self-mutilation suggests criminal nature and disrespect for authority. I want our employees to look professional, and to set a good example to children. He voluntarily altered his appearance, and the law must respect the right of employers to terminate employees who violate appearance standards.”


Do we discuss ideas and edits for issues here?
I suggest to lightly modify "Nicolas Cage" name and related film names to be more in style of other issues in NationStates (like Arnorl Weissenegger and alike)


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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Valentine Z » Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:48 am

Valentine’s Changelog 052

Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start - Congratulations! You now have 30 Issues to answer!

- 3 new issues added.
- More small changes.

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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rocain Founder » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:44 am

Option 2 of issue #1551 has shown up. My puppet Cain A P-B Cp v1 received it today, in place of option 1. The text of the issue makes it clear that the surmise that it is for nations with digital currency is correct, and, though there is no policy for digital currency, it certainly fits in with the overall zeitgeist of that particular puppet. Here is the text of the option, with the differences from option 1 underlined. I have not attempted to macroize the personal name.

1. “Ugh, those damn do-gooders have ruined my photo op, waving their stupid contactless payment pads in my face at the wrong time!” yells Sulu. “Do you know how long it took me to do my hair that day? I mean sure, starving children in Kawandaland, children’s hospitals in @@CAPITAL@@, and all that jazz... they’re all terribly worthy causes. Why don’t we commit to increasing foreign aid, income support and health spending? That’ll reduce the need for charities, and will make us look good too.”
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:38 am

I also just realised something... I forgot to dumbify the quotation marks. Sigh, whoops!

Another part will hopefully be coming relatively earlier. Hopefully!
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Aikea » Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:46 pm

Can someone tell me which issue “A Day in the Life” is, because I’m too lazy to read through over 1500 issues and I didn’t get to see the result, or is that a different thread
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:01 am

Aikea wrote:Can someone tell me which issue “A Day in the Life” is, because I’m too lazy to read through over 1500 issues and I didn’t get to see the result, or is that a different thread
Use your browser's search function. On most browsers, you can access this by hitting Control+F, or by using your mouse to select Edit -> Find in the menu bar.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby TalAkMaChen » Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:27 am

Trotterdam wrote:
#1089 Woman Trouble

The Issue

Since you reaffirmed your government's opposition to female suffrage, a band of highly militant suffragettes have been causing trouble in @@CAPITAL@@, inflicting criminal damage on property and even employing violence against policemen.

The Debate

1. "Pah! This women's rights rubbish is all piffle and poppycock!" boos Henry Hasquith, your Minister of Misogyny and author of the scientifically dubious pamphlet Women Have Squirrel Brains, and 999 Other Facts. "Women lack the temperament for politics, and they are more than adequately represented at the ballot by their fathers and husbands. If women stepped into this masculine sphere, nature would be destroyed; women would lose their sweetness and become masculinised. Suffragettes are palpably and demonstrably clinically insane. Lock these poor souls in an asylum, for compassion's sake, and give them every treatment to cure them of their morbid hysterias."

2. "I'd caution underestimating the so-called weaker sex," warns special branch police chief Brendon Steed. "These terrorist suffragettes are not ill; they are seditious criminals. They don't need to be rehabilitated, they need to be defeated! The very fabric of social order is at risk here - give me and my men the resources and permission to do what is needed, and we will break the back of this rebellion." He slaps a truncheon into a leather-gloved hand. "Literally."

3. "We have to face facts: these women aren't going away," mutters your pragmatic Minister of Solutions. "Maybe we should give them a little of what they think they want. Limited women's suffrage isn't going to hurt us, if we're careful about not giving them any real power. It's not like they'll use it, anyway. After all, some women have worked in trusted roles in @@NAME@@ for many years. But we shouldn't go around, implying suffrage is a right, regardless of stability or status. How about we grant women over thirty the vote, as long as they hold property, and pass an intelligence test that demonstrates they intend to vote for the right party? Surely that's a fair solution that everyone can live with."

5. "This disparity cannot stand," shouts suffragette Christine Pankhurst, bursting into the room and hurling a Votes for Women banner at you. "For the laws we obey, for the taxes we pay, we demand our right to have a say! This deplorable oppression has forced us to do that which we would never do: break the law so that our own government will finally hear us! Yes, some government buildings might have had their windows broken; some mail boxes may have been blown-up. But only by striking at @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ society could we get you to listen. We were driven to desperation by your constant disregard of our plight. We are not law-breakers; we wish to be law-makers. And it is incumbent on you, @@LEADER@@, to give us the vote and a chance."

Issue by The Free Joy State
Edited by Candlewhisper Archive
Option 5 appears identical to the listed option 4 (other than a fix to the italics), so I'm not sure because that's because the listed option 4 is misnumbered, or because there are two identical-looking options.

It's not the "hold property" thing in option 3, because the nation I got this on was socialist.

I can confirm the names are nonrandom.


Wow. Finally the exclusive option 4 was discovered (at War Dogs CCXXIX)! I cannot say which policies are responsible for the difference, it sounds like the more capitalistic version, though. However, it's protests against inequality by the government, why would they demolish commercial premises instead of government buildings to my enterprises instead of society listen? Perhaps the oppression comes by the economy instead of society in option 4? Or am I interpreting too much here?

4. "This disparity cannot stand," shouts suffragette Christine Pankhurst, bursting into the room and hurling a Votes for Women banner at you. "For the laws we obey, for the taxes we pay, we demand our right to have a say! This deplorable oppression has forced us to do that which we would never do: break the law so that our own government will finally hear us! Yes, some commercial premises might have had their windows broken; some mail boxes may have been blown-up. But only by striking at @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ enterprise could we get you to listen. We were driven to desperation by your constant disregard of our plight. We are not law-breakers; we wish to be law-makers. And it is incumbent on you, @@LEADER@@, to give us the vote and a chance."

cf. differences in option 5 marked in bold
5. "This disparity cannot stand," shouts suffragette Christine Pankhurst, bursting into the room and hurling a Votes for Women banner at you. "For the laws we obey, for the taxes we pay, we demand our right to have a say! This deplorable oppression has forced us to do that which we would never do: break the law so that our own government will finally hear us! Yes, some government buildings might have had their windows broken; some mail boxes may have been blown-up. But only by striking at @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ society could we get you to listen. We were driven to desperation by your constant disregard of our plight. We are not law-breakers; we wish to be law-makers. And it is incumbent on you, @@LEADER@@, to give us the vote and a chance."

Active policies onWar Dogs CCXXIX at discovery: Permanent Marriage, Prudism, Capital Punishments, Corporal Punishments, No Judiciary, Capitalism, No Automobiles
Last edited by TalAkMaChen on Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
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