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Valentine Z
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:44 am

Ahh, two new issues in a row. I will get onto that soon! ^^
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Honeydewistania
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:37 am

Trotterdam wrote:Huh. Outer Sparta is a regular here and has lots of drafts in the forum, but this one appears to have never been publicly drafted.

I’m pretty sure it was drafted on the whim, as he didn’t even have a plaintext copy of the issue, and he sent me screenshots of the issue submission page :p
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:41 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
Trotterdam wrote:Huh. Outer Sparta is a regular here and has lots of drafts in the forum, but this one appears to have never been publicly drafted.

I’m pretty sure it was drafted on the whim, as he didn’t even have a plaintext copy of the issue, and he sent me screenshots of the issue submission page :p

I sure did. The idea came to my head and then I immediately put it on paper since I kind of forgot an issue contest was going on since I was focused on other RL stuff.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:31 pm

Valentine’s Changelog 016

Diss my issue, and I will give you a tissue to cry on.

Added the two new issues, along with updating the number of issues. Congratulations to Noah for editing another issue! ^^

Changes can be seen on latest Git commit here.

As a side note, Issue No. 1373 seems to be out - You Should Have (Copy)Left My Software Alone!
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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:17 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=enact ... lemma=1374

Is officially Protect and Swerve by Candensia (editor unknown), which leaves The Melting Point as the only contest winner not published yet
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Postby Mathematik » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:24 am

Valentine Z here, I got this on my nation:

#1374: Protect and Swerve [Candensia; ed: The Marsupial Illuminati]

The Issue
A high-speed police pursuit ended in disaster last night when the suspect suddenly lost control of her vehicle and swerved into incoming traffic, triggering a fatal pileup. The deadly chase has raised questions regarding whether pursuits on the nation’s roadways are worth the danger they present to the public.

The Debate
1. “Let’s cut to the chase,” suggests roadway safety official Bella Swallows. “Evidence shows that police pursuits present an unacceptable risk to the general public and drive @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ into their graves! A national no-pursuit policy should be adopted, with reasonable exceptions when authorized by a senior police officer. After all, there’s no point in running down the guilty if the innocent are collateral damage.”

2. “If cops can’t tail thugs then why even have police cars?” oinks the rotund @@CAPITAL@@ Police Chief, channeling her frustration into your desk with a truncheon. “Besides, you’d be letting lawbreaking lowlifes escape! LEOs should instead be extensively trained in PIT, TPAC, and TVI against GTAs, TWOC, and perps DUI, to prevent IRTCs and RTAs. If criminals know escape is impossible, then maybe they won’t run to begin with. Do it ASAP!”

3. “Nobody can escape a traffic jam!” declares the Interim Director of Infrastructure, Oversight, and Traffic at the Transportation Ministry. “Roadway congestion near vehicle pursuits can be easily created and manipulated by altering traffic lights or closing roads, ensnaring evasive goons in bumper-to-bumper backups, which all but guarantees quick apprehension by police. Motorists might not appreciate being made into unwitting roadblocks, but why care? If you ask me, the only thing more despicable than a bottleneck is a criminal!”
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Postby Candensia » Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:16 am

Many thanks to TMI for the excellent edit. :)
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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:19 am

Candensia wrote:Many thanks to TMI for the excellent edit. :)

Very nice issue with very nice edit
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Postby Jewspont » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:43 pm

Val Z has already seen this issue, but here it is for everyone to see.

#1373: You Should Have (Copy)Left My Software Alone!

The Issue

For once, a government program has been a hit, with the new YourGov app giving citizens unified access to all their important government services. But some @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@, concerned with the storage of their personal data on government servers, have decompiled the app. These privacy advocates have discovered that large portions of the code rely on restrictive “copyleft” software libraries written in the United Federation.

The Debate

1. “I created those libraries for the good of the world, and you selfish @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ jerks used them without following the terms!” yells Ganondorf Ungar, sniffling his nose as he tries to wipe boogers on your table surreptitiously. “It says right here in the software license: all derivative works must be released under the same open-source license, so you’re committing a copyright violation by not giving out your code! Release your code and comply with the license, then maybe, just maybe, I won’t take your government to some international court and sue for everything you’ve got!”

2. “Whoa, now hold on there,” interjects lead YourGov developer Lucina Claus, who likes to go with the integer overflow. “Yeah... okay, we might possibly have used, ah, just a couple of those libraries that the kid wrote. But for us to comply with this “Wildebeest” license he’s talking about, we would have to make our code open source! Imagine the security risk if Dàguó hackers were able to access our systems by using the publicly available source code! It’s unreasonable to expect us to comply with these terms — you need to exempt the government from overreaching copyleft licenses in the name of security!”

3. “The problem here isn’t the license or the code, it’s that people found out!” whispers a shady looking individual, the brim of whose black hat is tilted to obscure his face. “@@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ who decompile the code are a security risk themselves — just like any malicious hacker. We need to obfuscate all of the code, only allow trusted developers access, and forbid members of the public from tinkering with it. Anyone who tries to probe government infrastructure obviously has hostile intentions, and we need to treat them that way!”

4. “Pretty sure that’s an unconscionable breach of our civil rights,” responds Sancho Jones, who found the copied code, as he desperately tries to conceal a Guy Fawkes mask. “We have a right to know what we’re installing on our computers — any software that you want us to download should always be open source, including the ones that you code in house! Just think how much better these applications would be if all of @@NAME@@ could provide input? True @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ programs, made by the people, for the people!”

Issue by The Player By The Name of SherpDaWerp

Edited by Electrum
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:58 pm

Ahh no, I actually have not yet. I just saw the title of the issue, first time seeing the body thanks to you!

Thanks still for the report, it's very helpful! ♥
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:53 am

Last edited by Valentine Z on Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:55 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Postby Valentine Z » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:12 pm

I found this on Samantha-Higgs, my dictatorship nation. :P

Issue 1373: You Should Have (Copy)Left My Software Alone! [SherpDaWerp; ed: Electrum]

The Issue
For once, a government program has been a hit, with the new YourGov app giving citizens unified access to all their important government services. But some @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@, concerned with the storage of their personal data on government servers, have decompiled the app. These privacy advocates have discovered that large portions of the code rely on restrictive “copyleft” software libraries written in the United Federation.

The Debate
1. “I created those libraries for the good of the world, and you selfish Samantha’s Minion jerks used them without following the terms!” yells Hayley Powers, sniffling her nose as she tries to wipe boogers on your table surreptitiously. “It says right here in the software license: all derivative works must be released under the same open-source license, so you’re committing a copyright violation by not giving out your code! Release your code and comply with the license, then maybe, just maybe, I won’t take your government to some international court and sue for everything you’ve got!”

2. “Whoa, now hold on there,” interjects lead YourGov developer Luke Wiseau, who likes to go with the integer overflow. “Yeah... okay, we might possibly have used, ah, just a couple of those libraries that the kid wrote. But for us to comply with this “Wildebeest” license she’s talking about, we would have to make our code open source! Imagine the security risk if Dàguó hackers were able to access our systems by using the publicly available source code! It’s unreasonable to expect us to comply with these terms — you need to exempt the government from overreaching copyleft licenses in the name of security!”

3. “The problem here isn’t the license or the code, it’s that people found out!” whispers a shady looking individual, the brim of whose black hat is tilted to obscure her face. “@@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ who decompile the code are a security risk themselves — just like any malicious hacker. We need to obfuscate all of the code, only allow trusted developers access, and forbid members of the public from tinkering with it. Anyone who tries to probe government infrastructure obviously has hostile intentions, and we need to treat them that way!”

4. “Pretty sure that’s an unconscionable breach of our civil rights,” responds Sarah Dimitrov, who found the copied code, as she desperately tries to conceal a Guy Fawkes mask. “We have a right to know what we’re installing on our computers — any software that you want us to download should always be open source, including the ones that you code in house! Just think how much better these applications would be if all of @@NATION@@ could provide input? True @@DEMONYM@@ programs, made by the people, for the people!”

Inspect Element says choice-0 to choice-3. Looking at the names, all seems random so far including the genders, and cross-referencing with Voxija.
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Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:32 pm

Hi — just a small issue I've noticed (pun not intended) with #972:
2. “It’s too late, your magnum opus has been ruined,” sighs @@RANDOMNAME@@, while offering a comforting shoulder to the previous speaker. “Jorge Shaft, it seems we need to have another song. One that would be impossible for them to corrupt, like a song showcasing how much we love sparkly rainbows!”
Colouring mine — I think that should be "@@LEADER@@", since that's what I saw when I got it. :)
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Voxija » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:04 pm

I just found the first issue of MADness on my puppet! How do I report the first issue of a new issue chain?
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Postby Trotterdam » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:15 pm

Voxija wrote:I just found the first issue of MADness on my puppet! How do I report the first issue of a new issue chain?
Just copy+paste the issue text here, and try to identify macros (particularly ones based on your nation's custom fields).

It helps if you check the internal option numbering for hidden options. Using either "View -> Page Source" or "right click -> Inspect Element" and look for the part that looks like "<button type="submit" name="choice-0" value="1" class="button big icon approve">". These are off by one from the numbering we use in this thread, so choice-0 is option 1, choice-1 is option 2, etc.

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Ex-Nation

Postby Lame Country » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:26 pm

Da da da da da! The first issue of the new issue chain!

#1,375
MADNESS
Never Say Yes to a Conference Again

Issue Series
“MADness”

The Issue

Once again, the cruel hand of obligation has dragged you to the G20,000 Summit, an annual gathering of nations great and small. You are currently stuck in the evening social mixer, where one wrong word to a rival nation’s representatives can quickly escalate to hostilities. Unfortunately, several dignitaries appear keen on talking to you.

The Debate

1. “There you are! We haven’t spoken in ages,” enthuses “Doc” Moreno, the President for Life of the socialist island nation of San Vitenzo. “I hate to ask for your help, but I have a bit of a conundrum. I’m sure you have heard that the United Federation, our closest neighbor, has become rather menacing and hostile recently. Their navy has been conducting frequent ‘training exercises’ in our own territorial waters. The next thing you know, they’ll be landing on our shores with their tanks! To be blunt, we need protection from these fascist pigs. Would it be possible to station some of your nuclear weapons in our country?”

2. Before you can respond, you hear a shout from the nearby bar. “Hey, it’s the Head Honcho of @@NAME@@! How’s it going?” exclaims San Vitenzo’s Air Chief Marshall Steve Fufu, who seems to see this sort of gathering as an excuse to get uproariously drunk. “Did the Boss Man tell you about our proposal to borrow some of your nukes? You know, if you really wanted to protect us, why don’t you just give us the launch codes after sending over your missiles? That way, we’d both be able to unleash destruction upon anyone who threatened us... including those vulgar Maxtopians.”

3. “Yeah... we’re not giving out our nuclear launch codes,” declares your Defense Minister, Rolan Malinovich, who has been glaring at the Merovingian delegation with a look of disgust. “However, President Moreno has a point. The imperialist parasites need to be kept in check. Tell San Vitenzo that we will agree to their request, but only if we can set up a military base on their land — and doing it correctly is going to require a lot of tax @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@.”

4. “Seriously? You still have weapons of mass destruction?” calls Prime Minister Anders Anderson of Skandilund, who was eavesdropping from a nearby table. “I strongly urge you to dismantle them. I know they make you feel powerful and can lead to a variety of entertaining dilemmas, but the world would be so much safer without them. And more boring, but I suppose some people like that.”

Issue by The Holy Empire of Pogaria

Edited by Pogaria


Somehow, I don't think any of these names are @@RANDOMNAME@@, not even Steve. Also, I'm on an iPad.

Edit: I chose option 2. Also, I think this is the version for socialist nations.
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Postby Lame Country » Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:01 am

Another issue of the new issue chain!

#1391
MADNESS
The World Is Not Radioactive Enough

Issue Series
“MADness”

The Story So Far

A few months have passed since the G20,000 Summit, where you agreed to station some of your nuclear weapons in San Vitenzo to aid in their defense against the forces of capitalist imperialism.

The Issue

Today was supposed to be a calm day. The issues on your desk this morning were even more trivial than usual. Of course, that’s how it always goes. Defense Minister Rolan Malinovich suddenly bursts into your office, closely followed by two other ministers who are engaged in a spirited debate. Malinovich quickly marches over to your desk and motions for the others to be silent. “Good morning, Comrade Leader. As per our agreement with San Vitenzo, we are in the process of installing a nuclear missile shield as a bulwark against the United Federation’s aggressions. Unfortunately, the capitalist pigs have spotted the missiles and are now demanding that we remove them.”

The Debate

1. Malinovich hands you a transcribed copy of the enemy’s demands before continuing. “You know as well as I do that the United Federation’s leadership are a bunch of spineless weasels who will back down when confronted with a superior fighting force like our own. Tell them to quit interfering, or face our wrath.”

2. “There’s no need to provoke them unnecessarily,” replies Minister of International Diplomacy Andrea Gramyki, who is tuning the guitar that she is infamous for carrying around at all times. “What if we were to propose some sort of negotiation between our government, the United Federation, and San Vitenzo? We don’t have to actually agree on anything; we just want to delay them long enough to install the missiles before the imperialists realize what’s really going on!”

3. “Maybe we should offer a metaphorical carrot instead of a stick?” suggests Warwick Wampeter, one of your Co-Ministers of Totally Legal and Creative Solutions. “I’ve heard that the United Federation’s leader, President Ken J. Finnedy, is worried about his main opponent in their upcoming elections. If we were to discover some embarrassing revelations about this other candidate, and then offer the evidence to Finnedy, I think he would be more willing to turn a blind eye. Of course, all of this quid pro quo will require a few quid — as they say in Albionia — to help us find the most useful information.”

Issue by The Holy Empire of Pogaria

Edited by Pogaria


I hope the option numbers are correct, but I doubt it.

Edit: I chose option 1 this time around.
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:31 am

Well, separate versions of entire issues for capitalists and socialists is confirmed. That also means we definitely need to be on the lookout for hidden options, especially on #1375.

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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:58 am

For #1375, I got it on my puppet - Alanis Star. So here's what's up! ^^

Choice 1 - “Doc” Moreno is fixed, as per Voxija's report.

Choice 2 - Air Chief Marshall Sydney Fufu - Seems like Fufu is fixed, but the first name isn't.

Choice 3 - Rolan Malinovich. Fixed, as per Voxija's report.

Choice 4 - Fixed as well. Huh, so many fixed names! I wonder if I am missing some references. :P
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Postby 9003 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:57 am

Once again, the cruel hand of obligation has dragged you to the G20,000 Summit, an annual gathering of nations great and small. You are currently stuck in the evening social mixer, where one wrong word to a rival nation’s representatives can quickly escalate to hostilities. Unfortunately, several dignitaries appear keen on talking to you.

The Debate
“There you are! We haven’t spoken in ages,” enthuses Chancellor Kurt Zahmahkibo of Smalltopia. “I hate to ask for your help, but I have a bit of a conundrum. I’m sure you have heard that East Lebatuck, our largest neighbor, has become rather menacing and hostile recently. Their military has been conducting frequent ‘training exercises’ right next to the border. The next thing you know, they’ll be storming our cities with their tanks! To be blunt, we need protection from these communist warmongers. Would it be possible to station some of your nuclear weapons in our country?”

Accept

Before you can respond, you hear a shout from the nearby bar. “Hey, it’s the Head Honcho of 9003! How’s it going?” exclaims Smalltopia’s Air Chief Marshall Diego Fufu, who seems to see this sort of gathering as an excuse to get uproariously drunk. “Did the Boss Man tell you about our proposal to borrow some of your nukes? You know, if you really wanted to protect us, why don’t you just give us the launch codes after sending over your missiles? That way, we’d both be able to unleash destruction upon anyone who threatened us... including those vulgar Maxtopians.”

Accept

“Yeah... we’re not giving out our nuclear launch codes,” declares your Defense Minister, Mack Rimera, who has been glaring at the Merovingian delegation with a look of disgust. “However, Chancellor Zahmahkibo has a point. The commie parasites need to be kept in check. Tell Smalltopia that we will agree to their request, but only if we can set up a military base on their land — and doing it correctly is going to require a lot of tax gold bars.”

Accept

“Seriously? You still have weapons of mass destruction?” calls Prime Minister Anders Anderson of Skandilund, who was eavesdropping from a nearby table. “I strongly urge you to dismantle them. I know they make you feel powerful and can lead to a variety of entertaining dilemmas, but the world would be so much safer without them. And more boring, but I suppose some people like that.”



Looks to be the capatilist version of 1375
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The First Congratulatory Union
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby The First Congratulatory Union » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:04 pm

Jutsa here: I'll be going with the first option of every given issue I receive as par tradition of this puppet.

And, unfortunately, this is my only stinking puppet with WMDs. My Last-Options Only one would've wound up dismissing it,
had I not inadvertantly removed WMDs just now without realizing it had WMDs to begin with.

So.

Capitalist version again:
The Issue
Once again, the cruel hand of obligation has dragged you to the G20,000 Summit, an annual gathering of nations great and small. You are currently stuck in the evening social mixer, where one wrong word to a rival nation’s representatives can quickly escalate to hostilities. Unfortunately, several dignitaries appear keen on talking to you.

The Debate
1. “There you are! We haven’t spoken in ages,” enthuses Chancellor Kurt Zahmahkibo of Smalltopia. “I hate to ask for your help, but I have a bit of a conundrum. I’m sure you have heard that East Lebatuck, our largest neighbor, has become rather menacing and hostile recently. Their military has been conducting frequent ‘training exercises’ right next to the border. The next thing you know, they’ll be storming our cities with their tanks! To be blunt, we need protection from these communist warmongers. Would it be possible to station some of your nuclear weapons in our country?”

3. Before you can respond, you hear a shout from the nearby bar. “Hey, it’s the Head Honcho of The First Congratulatory Union! How’s it going?” exclaims Smalltopia’s Air Chief Marshall Ludwig Fufu, who seems to see this sort of gathering as an excuse to get uproariously drunk. “Did the Boss Man tell you about our proposal to borrow some of your nukes? You know, if you really wanted to protect us, why don’t you just give us the launch codes after sending over your missiles? That way, we’d both be able to unleash destruction upon anyone who threatened us... including those vulgar Maxtopians.”

5. “Yeah... we’re not giving out our nuclear launch codes,” declares your Defense Minister, Mack Rimera, who has been glaring at the Merovingian delegation with a look of disgust. “However, Chancellor Zahmahkibo has a point. The commie parasites need to be kept in check. Tell Smalltopia that we will agree to their request, but only if we can set up a military base on their land — and doing it correctly is going to require a lot of tax Rogmules.”

7. “Seriously? You still have weapons of mass destruction?” calls Prime Minister Anders Anderson of Skandilund, who was eavesdropping from a nearby table. “I strongly urge you to dismantle them. I know they make you feel powerful and can lead to a variety of entertaining dilemmas, but the world would be so much safer without them. And more boring, but I suppose some people like that.”


Chose: Option 1.
Internal numbering: 0, 2, 4, 6.
Effect: the nation's declaring that sharing nukes is caring.
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:59 pm

Yay! Thanks Jutsa!

So from the look of it:
- capitalists get asked by Smalltopia to help against East Lebatuck
- socialists get asked by San Vitenzo (a new nation, clearly reminiscent of Cuba) to help against the United Federation
- the Merovingian delegation and Skandilundian prime minister get mentioned either way, but don't play a major role (except for the latter suggesting you ignore the issue)

Also it turns out my database isn't designed to handle options with the same effect lines still having different followups. Guess I'll have to ad-hoc something.

EDIT: Also not supported: two effect line that differ only in which macro they're using.
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Postby New Saflon » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:38 pm

Heya, I'm a new-ish nation and just received issue #1375 "Never Say Yes to a Conference Again". I am a socialist nation and I got a similar scenario:

The Issue
Once again, the cruel hand of obligation has dragged you to the G20,000 Summit, an annual gathering of nations great and small. You are currently stuck in the evening social mixer, where one wrong word to a rival nation’s representatives can quickly escalate to hostilities. Unfortunately, several dignitaries appear keen on talking to you.

The Debate
“There you are! We haven’t spoken in ages,” enthuses “Doc” Moreno, the President for Life of the socialist island nation of San Vitenzo. “I hate to ask for your help, but I have a bit of a conundrum. I’m sure you have heard that the United Federation, our closest neighbor, has become rather menacing and hostile recently. Their navy has been conducting frequent ‘training exercises’ in our own territorial waters. The next thing you know, they’ll be landing on our shores with their tanks! To be blunt, we need protection from these fascist pigs. Would it be possible to station some of your nuclear weapons in our country?”

Accept

Before you can respond, you hear a shout from the nearby bar. “Hey, it’s the Head Honcho of New Saflon! How’s it going?” exclaims San Vitenzo’s Air Chief Marshall Julius Fufu, who seems to see this sort of gathering as an excuse to get uproariously drunk. “Did the Boss Man tell you about our proposal to borrow some of your nukes? You know, if you really wanted to protect us, why don’t you just give us the launch codes after sending over your missiles? That way, we’d both be able to unleash destruction upon anyone who threatened us... including those vulgar Maxtopians.”

Accept

“Yeah... we’re not giving out our nuclear launch codes,” declares your Defense Minister, Rolan Malinovich, who has been glaring at the Merovingian delegation with a look of disgust. “However, President Moreno has a point. The imperialist parasites need to be kept in check. Tell San Vitenzo that we will agree to their request, but only if we can set up a military base on their land — and doing it correctly is going to require a lot of tax marks.”

Accept

“Seriously? You still have weapons of mass destruction?” calls Prime Minister Anders Anderson of Skandilund, who was eavesdropping from a nearby table. “I strongly urge you to dismantle them. I know they make you feel powerful and can lead to a variety of entertaining dilemmas, but the world would be so much safer without them. And more boring, but I suppose some people like that.”

Accept

Im choosing option 1 personally as this is my main nation and I don't want to risk experimentation. I will update when i get the next issue!

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Postby Lame Country » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:36 pm

After choosing option 1 of Issue 1391, I got this issue.

#1392

MADNESS
No Crime to Spy

Issue Series
“MADness”

The Story So Far

The United Federation is challenging your right to place missiles on an island nation that is near their borders.

The Issue

After your other advisors have gathered their “world’s best apparatchik” mugs and left the room, your Minister of Intelligence, known only as “N”, approaches you to take advantage of the opportunity for a private conversation.

The Debate

1. “If you have a few spare minutes, Comrade Leader, I’d like to remind you that we have a secret agent in the United Federation. Natasha Milanova is highly skilled in the delicate arts of infiltration, espionage, and making people disappear without a trace. She’s currently operating under the alias of ‘Charlotte Johnson’, a low-level officer at the Libertyville naval base. If you’d like, we can instruct her to focus on intercepting classified information on ship deployments and troop movements, and send us all of the details.”

2. N pauses, picks up a briefcase labeled ‘In Case of Emergency’, and tips it towards an unused mug, dispensing an ample measure of steaming-hot tea. “Ah, that’s much better than that awful People’s EqualiTea they serve in the cafeteria. Anyway, we also have the option of ordering Agent Milanova to directly sabotage the enemy’s naval operations. The downside of this is that she’s much more likely to be caught compared to a simple intelligence-gathering operation — and we have very few agents in the United Federation, so she’s much more valuable than those other incompetent zasranets that work for us. Of course, if things get out of hand and the imperialists try to invade San Vitenzo, they’re going to have a much more difficult time if their ships were to suddenly become coral reef habitats at the bottom of their harbor. So, which is it going to be?”

Issue by The Holy Empire of Pogaria

Edited by Pogaria


A thing: I created this puppet to pick the worst options: thus the name "Lame Country". So I'm probably going to end up nuked.

Edit: I picked option 2.
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Postby New Saflon » Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:38 pm

I got the second part!

The Story So Far
A few months have passed since the G20,000 Summit, where you agreed to station some of your nuclear weapons in San Vitenzo to aid in their defense against the forces of capitalist imperialism.

The Issue
Today was supposed to be a calm day. The issues on your desk this morning were even more trivial than usual. Of course, that’s how it always goes. Defense Minister Rolan Malinovich suddenly bursts into your office, closely followed by two other ministers who are engaged in a spirited debate. Malinovich quickly marches over to your desk and motions for the others to be silent. “Good morning, Comrade Leader. As per our agreement with San Vitenzo, we are in the process of installing a nuclear missile shield as a bulwark against the United Federation’s aggressions. Unfortunately, the capitalist pigs have spotted the missiles and are now demanding that we remove them.”

The Debate
Malinovich hands you a transcribed copy of the enemy’s demands before continuing. “You know as well as I do that the United Federation’s leadership are a bunch of spineless weasels who will back down when confronted with a superior fighting force like our own. Tell them to quit interfering, or face our wrath.”

Accept

“There’s no need to provoke them unnecessarily,” replies Minister of International Diplomacy Andrea Gramyki, who is tuning the guitar that she is infamous for carrying around at all times. “What if we were to propose some sort of negotiation between our government, the United Federation, and San Vitenzo? We don’t have to actually agree on anything; we just want to delay them long enough to install the missiles before the imperialists realize what’s really going on!”

Accept

“Maybe we should offer a metaphorical carrot instead of a stick?” suggests Leroy Wampeter, one of your Co-Ministers of Totally Legal and Creative Solutions. “I’ve heard that the United Federation’s leader, President Ken J. Finnedy, is worried about his main opponent in their upcoming elections. If we were to discover some embarrassing revelations about this other candidate, and then offer the evidence to Finnedy, I think he would be more willing to turn a blind eye. Of course, all of this quid pro quo will require a few quid — as they say in Albionia — to help us find the most useful information.”

Accept

So, it appears that there is a divergence of the options. Me and Lame Country both chose option 1 as Socialist nations, but we have different scenarios! I'm going to pick option 2.
I believe someone made a mention of San Vitenzo being similar to Cuba. My guess is that this event is inspired by the Cuban Missile Crisis, and that socialist nations receive the USSR perspective, while capitalist ones receive the USA one. I'll report with my findings.

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