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Bears Armed Mission
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed Mission » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:07 am

Somebody in the 'Latin Mottoes' thread in the Gameplay forum might help, if you ask there...
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Ex-Nation

Postby Valrifell » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:41 am

1118 sighted, will copypasta shortly.

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We Can't Cross That Bridge When We Get to It

The Issue
Several workers were killed and others injured in the recent collapse of a bridge being constructed across the @@ANIMAL@@ River.

The Debate
1. “My client’s partner was killed in this incident and she’s demanding answers!” exclaims litigator Zack Khachaturian, throwing a stack of folders on your desk. “Hundreds of petitioners, including many of my clients — ah, and the other victims’ families — will not be contented with the status quo. They need to know that their loved ones who go to work on these sites will most definitely come home at night. Instituting more safety guidelines might slow down the rate of construction work, but that just means more time to earn a living!”

2. “Objection!” cries prominent attorney Colin Rios, representing construction firm Bricks An’ Stuff. “These destructive laws would merely hinder businesses’ ability to perform their job: providing houses to our beautiful citizens, storefronts to our busy workers, and hotel skyscrapers to our guests!” He pats down his suit before handing you a trunk filled with legislation suggestions. “Offer subsidies to businesses that perform safety checks, and trust companies to carry them out. They know what’s best, after all.”

3. “Aw, as if we need these damn rules an’ stuff!” mutters greying construction worker Commodus Zhu, running while holding power tools. “Real builders don’t need them to survive on the job. Back in my day, we worked our butts off like real men, and dealt with problems like these on our own! Get rid of those stupid laws, and let us show these sissies how it’s done.”

Issue by Nedanelden

Edited by Zwangzug
Note: names left un-macro'd because I'm not the best at deciding when the names are actually random.
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Jutsa
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Postby Jutsa » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:35 am

@Latin: I know a guy who knows Latin that's not Sanct if anyone's interested. :lol:

@1118: Nice issue! Just... I guess this means that Verdant Haven's draft about this is a duplicate then. :blush:

Still, congratulations to Nedanelden. :clap:

This is another one I'm going to need help with macros on though... :lol:

Also, I believe there might be an extra space in there, but I can't tell if I accidentally did that or not. Probably not.
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:07 am

I'll just wait for Sanc. It works as is for now.
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Verdant Haven
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Postby Verdant Haven » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:11 am

Jutsa wrote:
@1118: Nice issue! Just... I guess this means that Verdant Haven's draft about this is a duplicate then. :blush:


I don't recall seeing this one come through. Must have been sitting in the queue for a while.

Incidentally, it and my issue are completely unrelated in effects and decisions. Mine is about deferred maintenance and infrastructure budgets, whereas 1118 is about regulatory oversight on new construction. There wouldn't be any overlap whatsoever if it were flavored as some other kind of structure!
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Bears Armed
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:36 am

Verdant Haven wrote:Incidentally, it and my issue are completely unrelated in effects and decisions. Mine is about deferred maintenance and infrastructure budgets, whereas 1118 is about regulatory oversight on new construction. There wouldn't be any overlap whatsoever if it were flavored as some other kind of structure!

Maybe a dam?
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:31 pm

#1119 Where There Isn't Smoke

The Issue

Since the smoking ban, tragedy has struck @@NAME@@ as the most hip bars lack a certain je ne sais quoi, formerly smoke-filled back rooms are disturbingly transparent, and withdrawing smokers are beset with torpor. Oh, who are you kidding: powerful tobacco interests, wheelbarrows full of money in tow, have come to your office begging for the law to change.

The Debate

2. "Think of the economic impact of the ban," begs former Nicotine 'R Us CEO @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Tobacco farmers letting their fields go fallow, convenience store workers closing shop after losing their most lucrative products, advertisement agencies forced to switch to making Saturday morning kids cartoons, and yes, the employees of the tobacco companies sent to the poor house. Why, it's tragic!" @@HE/SHE@@ carefully wipes away a single tear with a check for a million bits, and discretely stuffs it into one of your pockets. "The economic stimulus and additional tax revenue of a complete lifting of tobacco restrictions should overcome any paltry health objections."

3. "Dude, this tax revenue talk has me thinking," murmurs scruffy looking economics professor @@RANDOMNAME@@, who smells distinctly skunky to you. "On the one hand, legalizing tobacco and taxing it to the gills will bring in more revenue. On the other hand, legalizing all drugs and taxing them all to the gills will bring in even more revenue, which will then let you lower income taxes. It'll be a total economic multiplier effect... or something. Hey, did you know the word 'hand' is just the word 'and' with an 'h' at the beginning? Freaky."

5. "Is @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ health really for sale?" asks your personal doctor, stethoscope pressed to your chest. "Are kids growing up with parents who are bed ridden due to emphysema worth a few more bits in the coffers of @@NAME@@? How about hospital beds full of lung cancer victims? If anything, you should further discourage any renegade smoke-fiends by raising the penalties for getting caught holding or dealing tobacco."

Issue by Ransium and Caracasus
Edited by Candlewhisper Archive
The effect line for the last option is rather satisfying, considering this nation is always a fervent supporter of the last option on #357 ;)

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Verdant Haven
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Postby Verdant Haven » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:02 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Verdant Haven wrote:Incidentally, it and my issue are completely unrelated in effects and decisions. Mine is about deferred maintenance and infrastructure budgets, whereas 1118 is about regulatory oversight on new construction. There wouldn't be any overlap whatsoever if it were flavored as some other kind of structure!

Maybe a dam?


That's pretty much where my mind was going next. It'll take a bit of a rewrite, but is doable. Kind of annoying since I was actually specifically basing it off a real bridge collapse and the debate that is connected to it, whereas this has nothing to do with bridges at all, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. I'll get it in my rewrite queue!

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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:28 pm

It's not a rule that we can't have more than one issue about bridges, is it? I mean, sure, we want to avoid overlap, but if it's just overlap in superficial trappings rather than the real subject, it's not that big of a deal. I mean, both #247 and #296 are about fires.

...You know, now I'm kind of wondering if bridges are historically more prone to collapsing than other kinds of structures.

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Postby Sacara » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:43 pm

Trotterdam wrote:I mean, both #247 and #296 are about fires.

...You know, now I'm kind of wondering if bridges are historically more prone to collapsing than other kinds of structures.
Two different areas of the subject, however. Verdant's draft is much closer to the latest issue than those two are to each other.
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Chan Island
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Postby Chan Island » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:12 pm

Trotterdam wrote:It's not a rule that we can't have more than one issue about bridges, is it? I mean, sure, we want to avoid overlap, but if it's just overlap in superficial trappings rather than the real subject, it's not that big of a deal. I mean, both #247 and #296 are about fires.

...You know, now I'm kind of wondering if bridges are historically more prone to collapsing than other kinds of structures.


Well, I know that structurally bridges are about the most vulnerable things we build. They have to be built to pretty exacting specifications or they are very prone to collapse.
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Postby Jutsa » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:52 pm

Trot, you're certain that the order is 2/3/5 and not 1/3/5? .-.

Glad to see your public smoking reversal, Ransium. Gl with your public smoking ban reversal. :clap:

Of course, this pretty much confirms that my draft about smoke is dead. Sad, too; one of the few topics I actually did research on. :')
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:19 pm

Jutsa wrote:Trot, you're certain that the order is 2/3/5 and not 1/3/5? .-.
Positive.

I don't actually check the numbering manually these days, I wrote a little script that I just paste the source code into and does much of the work of formatting it for presentation automatically. Macros are pretty much the only thing I still need to do by hand.

So, no risk of human error there.

(And no, there's no point in sharing this script, unless you happen to know how to run Emacs Lisp.)

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Postby Jutsa » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:49 pm

huh...

interesting.
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Postby Verdant Haven » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:09 pm

Chan Island wrote:Well, I know that structurally bridges are about the most vulnerable things we build. They have to be built to pretty exacting specifications or they are very prone to collapse.


I come from the city famous for, amongst other things, "Galloping Gertie" - the collapsing suspension bridge. Definitely worth a YouTube look up if you haven't seen it before!

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Postby The Free Joy State » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:17 pm

Jutsa wrote:
This is another one I'm going to need help with macros on though... :lol:

Also, I believe there might be an extra space in there, but I can't tell if I accidentally did that or not. Probably not.


Macros for #1118

#1 -- @@RANDOMNAME@@
#2 -- @@RANDOMNAME@@
#3 -- @@RANDOMMALENAME@@

Where can you see an extra space, out of interest? Just so I can check the backstage version?
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:36 am

That's just it; upon attempting to relocate it, I couldn't. :blush:

Something tells me that was a booboo on my end.

Anyhow, thanks, FJS. :)
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:05 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
Jutsa wrote:Trot, you're certain that the order is 2/3/5 and not 1/3/5? .-.
Positive.
And here's the other version.

#1119 Where There Isn't Smoke

The Issue

Since the smoking ban, tragedy has struck @@NAME@@ as the most hip bars lack a certain je ne sais quoi, formerly smoke-filled back rooms are disturbingly transparent, and withdrawing smokers are beset with torpor. Oh, who are you kidding: powerful tobacco interests, wheelbarrows full of money in tow, have come to your office begging for the law to change.

The Debate

1. "Productivity has declined in workplaces across the nation and we've got thousands of acres of tobacco plantations going fallow," states ex-Commissar for the Nicotine Production Committee @@RANDOMNAME@@. "The noble worker deserves their smoke break; who are we to take that away from them? Besides, what self-respecting socialist figure would be seen dead without a cigar clenched firmly in their teeth? All the cool communist leaders are doing it; why don't you give it a try?" With that @@HE/SHE@@ discretely stuffs a fine Manamanan cigar into your pocket.

4. "It's not just the tobacco plantations that aren't at full capacity," states scruffy looking economics professor @@RANDOMNAME@@, sporting a shirt that bears the slogan 'Addiction is a Spook'. "Land across @@NAME@@ could be converted to marijuana plantations, poppy fields, and meth labs. Having the state produce all sorts of drugs could be a huge boost to @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ economic activity. And if you think a smoke break will make the workers more efficient, you should see them after an amphetamine break."

5. "Is @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ health really for sale?" asks your personal doctor, stethoscope pressed to your chest. "Are kids growing up with parents who are bed ridden due to emphysema worth a few more @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ in the coffers of @@NAME@@? How about hospital beds full of lung cancer victims? If anything, you should further discourage any renegade smoke-fiends by raising the penalties for getting caught holding or dealing tobacco."

Issue by Ransium and Caracasus
Edited by Candlewhisper Archive

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Postby Jutsa » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:06 pm

Added to both my list and NSIndex.
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Postby Jutsa » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:06 pm

Neat news! We've got a new Capitalism policy. :lol:
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:39 am

#1'120 is now in use. it's one of mine. I'll report its details in a couple of weeks time if nobody else does so before then.
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Postby The Candy Of Bottles » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:00 pm

Following Yonder Star (1,120)

The Issue
The rulers of three distant kingdoms have all requested permission to enter The Candy Of Bottles and visit the small town of Betraisa during a specific week this year. When asked for an explanation, they each disclosed that a keen interest in astrology had led them to believe that a long-prophesied religious teacher and leader of mankind would soon be born there. When pressed for further details about how to identify this individual, however, they all decided that letting your government know any more might not be the wisest thing to do.

1.) “Hallelujah!” exclaims Marlon May, your Minister for Culture, Religious Affairs, and Tourism. “We must welcome this opportunity, aid those three kings in their visit, and honour the Prophet-to-be! We will surely improve our chances of salvation... and attract more tourists in the future, too. Yes, these visitors might end up starting a bizarre cult, but we should support religious freedom, right?”

Accept

2.) “Who do these wise guys think they are, wanting to waltz into our country and proclaim that a baby has higher authority than your own?” scoffs Sigourney Herod, your Head of Internal Security Services. “I suppose we could try letting the kings in and following them to see whether they all select the same newborn as this prophesied one. If that does happen, you surely don’t want any potential rivals, do you? Wouldn’t it be a pity if Betraisa Hospital’s maternity ward burnt down at the end of that week, killing everybody inside? That sounds like just the sort of thing those Ultra-Violetist terrorists could be blamed for.”

Accept

3.) “Isn’t your sister due to give birth soon?” inquires Ashley Bone, the overly ambitious civil servant who is taking notes at this meeting. “Perhaps you might arrange for her to do so in Betraisa, proclaim your new nephew as this prophesied Holy One, and then appoint yourself as the child’s designated spokesperson. The followers of this new cult would do whatever you told them! For unto us a child is born, and King Sakub Anangåkïz will be upon his shoulders!”

Accept

4.) “Bah, humbug! What utter nonsense!” retorts Ebenezer Hanover, your Minister for Information. “Nobody should believe in non-scientific ideas like prophecy or astrology, or religion in general, anyway. What we need is a public education campaign against such concepts - then it won’t matter if some child coincidentally does match the supposed forecast.”

Accept

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Issue by The Free Bears of Bears Armed

Edited by Pogaria


No gaps at the source, so this should be all the options. Also, I've left the macros untouched, although I can tell you right now the last name in option two is going to be fixed...
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Postby Trotterdam » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:20 pm

#542 4 is unavailable under Socialism. No replacement.

The Candy Of Bottles wrote:No gaps at the source, so this should be all the options.
Indeed, I see no evidence of other options, although it seems we have another new issue featuring religion too. Not sure exactly what it's about, from my side it looks like it has significant overlap with #864. Maybe it focusses more on the "safety of travellers" bit than that they happen to be missionaries?

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The Circuit City Herald
VOL. 32 NO. 1,081
CITY FINAL
SUNDAY DECEMBER 2, 2018

The Queen in Yellow
The Issue

An undergraduate medical statistician has stumbled across a weird occurrence: three of the five actors involved in a theatrical piece called The Queen in Yellow, as well as over ten percent of the members of the opening night audience, have since received diagnoses of various psychiatric illnesses. The media have picked up on this, labelling it “the play that sends you mad”, and predictably ticket sales are now skyrocketing.
The Debate

name="choice-0" “I, uh...” stutters Cassilda, a former actress in the play, dismissed for ‘creative differences’. “I, uh, cth... think you fh... should stop the sh... show. My dreams haven’t been right since I was in the pl... play. The strange m-moon, the sh-shadows lengthen...”

name="choice-1" “Selective reporting!” shouts mathematics professor Camilla Whateley. “It’s like when they claimed that fighter jet pilots were having more female children, all over again. You need to learn how selection bias and basic statistics work. More to the point, the nation needs to learn how these things work. I’d suggest making stats a compulsory part of a properly funded core school curriculum. 85.7% of the seven statisticians I surveyed agree this is a good idea. The other guy, he’s just an annoying smelly little...”

name="choice-2" “But...” interjects an excitable stranger with a queer narrow head, a flat nose and bulgy, starry eyes. “But this is the most important theatrical production since Shoggoth on the Roof! Please accept these free tickets from us devoted fans, then personally endorse this wonderful play.”

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Postby Sacara » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:41 pm

Techolandia, that was almost forty issues ago. ;)
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