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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:41 am

#1041 A Sport Retort

The Issue

Rather unexpectedly, @@NAME@@ reached the final match of the Calvinball World Cup, but was defeated by heavily-favored Ausblic. Your advisors have started a lively debate on the topic at the next day's budget meeting.

The Debate

1. "I'm as shocked as everyone else!" utters your Minister of Boardgames, Athletics, Leisure, and League Sports, while watching the team's highlights on @@HIS/HER@@ phone. "We had to play defending champions Tasmania, and everyone thought we were going to get killed, but then one of their players stumbled into the Zone of Forfeiture! We might have even had a chance against Ausblic if we hadn't botched the dance-off round. With a little more funding, we could easily build @@NAME@@ into a Calvinball powerhouse. Maybe you could divert a bit from the education budget; after all, if you're making a fortune playing a sport, an education isn't that important!"

2. "Funding isn't the problem," claims Interior Minister @@RANDOMNAME@@, who is still wearing a national team scarf. "There are too many foreigners playing for our local teams. The club coaches never give our young players a chance; they just go out and pay big money for the established players from abroad. This denies our young ones the opportunity to gain top-level experience that we could have used to beat Ausblic. If we want to lift the trophy at the next tournament in Althaniq, we need a law that prevents clubs from having more than one overseas player."

3. "Look, I was cheering for our team as much as everyone else," states your Minister of Cost-Cutting and Harsh Realities, using a red pen to cross out large sections from the latest national budget. "But we only got through to the final because Maxtopia's star player got a violet card in the first quintile and had to wear a blindfold for the rest of the match. Before that, Marche Blanc's team was penalized ten wickets for being unable to sing their national anthem backwards. Let's be realistic: our success was just a fluke. I recommend that we slash funding for all of this sporting nonsense and give our citizens a nice tax cut."

4. "You know, I've heard rumors that host country East Lebatuck only got as far as they did because they slipped hallucinogens into the drinking water of their opponents," suggests Intelligence Minister @@RANDOMNAME@@ while fiddling with prototypes of the latest spy cameras. "Some of the Bigtopian players even claimed to see a talking tiger on the field! If we offered to host one of these sporting spectacles - and then made a few 'donations' to the International Calvinball Federation to ensure we were selected - we could have a similar advantage. Just say the word, and I'll have our research labs start working on an array of undetectable sedatives."

Issue by Pogaria and Baggieland
Edited by Pogaria and Baggieland
Autarky, No Immigration, and Socialism are candidates for disqualifying option 2. The puppet which I failed to get it on actually has all three policies, and no nation with any of those three policies (or several others) has been seen choosing that option yet, but then not many nations have chosen it total.




Also, #1060 appears to be a followup to #342 5 and #470 4. And that should finally close this wave of issue additions.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Chan Island » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:28 pm

Aramanchovia wrote:1057: Baby, It's Cold Outside

The Issue
This winter, harsh blizzards have hit the high-latitude regions of Aramanchovia. Many residents have contracted hypothermia while shovelling their sidewalks. The surviving citizens are begging you to lift the ban on clothes.

The Debate
1. Meteorologist Khethelo Ruiz shivers while predicting another snowstorm. “The Leader, you must r-r-relegalize clothing unless you want your people to fr-r-reeze. So many of us have already succumbed to hypothermia and the flu-u-u... achoo! And I’m afraid I’m next.”

2. Naked window washer Rebecca al-Assad grins as she flashes you. “Don’t listen to that fearmonger; nudity is the best thing you’ve done in years! I’ve always wanted to see my co-workers’ bodies, and that dream is now a reality thanks to you. If these people are too pathetic to survive the cold winters, then they can just migrate to the warmer parts of Aramanchovia and live with us. Sure, it might be a little crowded, but we will finally get to see if those frigid Aramanchovians are as beautiful as people say they are.”

3. Surfer Zack Frederickson bursts through your door, dripping with water and trailing seaweed. “Dude, you can’t just leave the colder parts of Aramanchovia unattended and expect everything to be fine! All you need to do is pump carbon dioxide stuff into the atmosphere and then we can have an endless summer. Like, some of those environment losers say it will cause pollution, but who would want to miss out on that heat?”

Issue by The Catholic Dictatorship of -WeedLand-
Edited by Zwangzug

On mobile, so I can't verify the response numbering is correct.


It is done. Finally, the obvious, gaping hole in the issue base, first introduced in 2003, been shut. My issues soul is now peace.
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Postby Jutsa » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:35 pm

Why on earth did that one take so long to submit?

Oh, hi: I've not updated the list since my computer was in the shop and I've been too busy to get to this... or even really use the computer much >_>

All I can say is the following:

1) Thank you all so much for the reports. :)
2) Congratulations, Splendania, Sakhalinsk, Sapnu Puas, and... -WeedLand-? for your first issues. :clap:
3) Also congrats to Sacara, Altmer Dominian, and... idk if I should congratulate the editors at this point, but I feel like I might as well. :P
4) Omg a Baggieland and Pogaria duely-edited duel-authorship! Sweet :D
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Issue #1061

Postby Furry Things » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:08 pm

Sapnu puas wrote:#1,061 (not edited)
Every Day I'm Muffling

After many days of loud and obnoxious cars speeding through the main streets of Russiaville, a bill that proposes a mandatory muffler muting for motor vehicles has been presented to you.

The Debate

Bella Boothroyd, a tired-looking single parent, pleads for change. “Have you ever tried sleeping while these high-speed hooligans are making noise through the night? It’s torture! Whenever they go by, my kids wake up crying, and I get zero rest! Make mufflers an absolute must...” She yawns loudly, then drops onto your floor, fast asleep.

Accept

Francisco Harel, a member of the feared but mostly harmless Rabid Komodo Dragons gang, pulls up in his beefed-up 4x4 diesel truck. “Hell, no! Can you really bring yourself to tame a beast like this with mufflers? Where’s your sense of fun? In fact, let’s make Sapnu puas the loudest nation in Forest, and subsidise great cool auto manufacturers making great cool cars.”

Accept

Looking a little nervous, environmentalist Leela O'Bannon whispers a few words in your ear. “I think we can do better than a few mufflers. Instead, we could insist that all engines should be fully electric - this will eliminate engine noise entirely. You’ll have to push this through quickly with an executive order though, or Big Oil lobbyists will surely shut it down. Green Power, Boggy B!” She salutes you and sidles away, checking to make sure she isn’t being followed.

Accept
Issue with author, editor and names for macro comparisons:
Every Day I’m Muffling

The Issue
After many days of loud and obnoxious cars speeding through the main streets of Wolfsburg, a bill that proposes a mandatory muffler muting for motor vehicles has been presented to you.

The Debate
  1. Stan Lennon, a tired-looking single parent, pleads for change. “Have you ever tried sleeping while these high-speed hooligans are making noise through the night? It’s torture! Whenever they go by, my kids wake up crying, and I get zero rest! Make mufflers an absolute must...” He yawns loudly, then drops onto your floor, fast asleep.
  2. Ash Schmo, a member of the feared but mostly harmless Rabid Massive Wuffs gang, pulls up in his beefed-up 4x4 diesel truck. “Hell, no! Can you really bring yourself to tame a beast like this with mufflers? Where’s your sense of fun? In fact, let’s make Furry Things the loudest nation in the Pacific, and subsidise great Furry Thingsian auto manufacturers making great Furry Thingsian cars.”
  3. Looking a little nervous, environmentalist Faith Atwood whispers a few words in your ear. “I think we can do better than a few mufflers. Instead, we could insist that all engines should be fully electric - this will eliminate engine noise entirely. You’ll have to push this through quickly with an executive order though, or Big Oil lobbyists will surely shut it down. Green Power, Zzyzx Wolfe!” She salutes you and sidles away, checking to make sure she isn’t being followed.
Issue by The Smallest Flag in NS of Sapnu puas
Edited by Candlewhisper Archive

  1. Seems to be @@RANDOMNAME@@ and @@HE@@.
  2. Not sure if @@RANDOMNAME@@ or @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, @@ANIMALPLURAL@@, not sure if @@HIS@@ or just his, @@NAME@@, @@REGION@@, @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@, @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@.
  3. Not sure if @@RANDOMNAME@@ or @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, @@LEADER@@, not sure if @@HE@@ or she, not sure if @@HE@@ or she.

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Postby Runegeist » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:38 am

Issue #1062: The Hunt for the Violet November

The Issue

Blackacre, a nation historically opposed to @@NAME@@, has declared that their submarine Violet November has gone missing, and are keen to scour the area where it was last spotted — just off the edge of the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ continental shelf.

The Debate

1. “Thank you for meeting with me on such short notice, @@Leader@@,” says Tyrone Lancaster, a diminutive Blackacrean ambassador. “Our submarine was just a training vessel that got erm... blown off course... or something. But the main issue here is saving the thirty crew members that are on board before their oxygen runs out! Any kind of help will be greatly appreciated: freedom of movement for our search boats, logistical aid, rescue teams, engineers... This is such a great opportunity for our two nations to start on a path towards greater friendship.”

2. “A training vessel? Yeah! Right!” exclaims Rear Admiral Guterres as the ambassador leaves your office. “I bet all my navy ribbons that we’re talking about a spy sub or a nuke platform! Those Blackacreans are always stirring up trouble and encroaching into our territorial waters. You should have our own submarines, frigates and destroyers search out and destroy unauthorised military vessels, including this sub, once we find it! That will give them something to think about before trespassing here again.”

Issue by The Capitalist Alliance of The-CID
Edited by Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Jutsa » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:24 pm

I got the issue, too, and only got 2 options. That was submitted with four; I'm surprised. :P

I've not read most of this text, but I did update issues 1032 and 1042.

@1032: Very nice issue! Alas, there's no internal numbering. I checked, and I suspect there might be a fourth option for really economically poor nations,
but honestly, it's hard to tell. Also, I have no idea if the names, especially Cooper Goldsmith, are random or not; and if Cooper Goldsmith's fixed, then #067 might be changed, too. ,_,

@1042: Another very nice issue! Except... how on or off the earth are we going to find 1042.3?

That's all I've got done for now. I'd also like to point out that we still need issue 998... :rofl:
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:33 am

Jutsa wrote:I got the issue, too, and only got 2 options. That was submitted with four; I'm surprised. :P


The existing additional two options didn't address the underlying dilemma. I do like "third way" choices, but they still need to solve or address the presented problem, not just suggest a different course of action on a different topic.

I would have liked to have seen a more on-target replacement third option, but as the author wasn't responding to telgrams for the duration of the edit, I didn't feel I could add one without becoming the ghost author. Cuts, on the other hand, are within my editorial remit.
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:30 am

Drasnia wrote:
#1045: [The Enemy Within] Gimme Some Truth [Drasnia; ed:Candlewhisper Archive]

The actor in Option 1 is @@RANDOMNAME@@. The founder of Fact Battlers in Option 2 is always Terry Mission.
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Postby Fauxia » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:33 pm

Nice to see the Violet November, coincidentally, watched a Jack Ryan movie a few days ago.

The other issue by The-CID, 500.1, has changed.

“It’s quite simple,” comments Werner Cousins’ notorious lawyer @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, with a team of well-dressed yes men behind him. “The holders of a copyright have every right to demand royalties for its use and remove all unlicensed use. Of course, you can still sing the Merry Birthday song to your kids every year; just remember to pay us instead of wasting your money on another pair of designer running shoes for little Timmy.”

Definitely the same option, I got it on a nation that allows video games.

Also, The Little Pinko Book is in italics.
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Postby Orientis Noverai » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:53 am

Got an old one from Arch on Arathya:
#1063: Playing It by the Numbers [The Eye of Candlewhisper Archive; ed: Caracasus]

The Issue
Your somewhat gullible nephew has returned from a shopping trip laden with ‘bargains’, including a dozen suits which he says were ‘50%-off’. Upon whipping out the office magnifying glass it appears that the discount stickers have ‘up to’ written in tiny letters just above the numbers, and a quick check of the store catalogue shows most of the items had their prices raised just days before to accommodate the so-called discount. All in all, his shopping trip has cost him twice what he would have paid if he had been charged the manufacturers’ recommended prices.

The Debate
1. “Look, we all know that my son is an idiot,” says your sister irritably, smacking the kid around the head, “but anyone could be misled by these tricks and number games. You don’t approve of con-men, do you? These retailers are legal con-men. For the sake of the consumer you must legislate fair and transparent pricing in retail, and prevent misleading advertising.”

2. “I’ve made a couple of bad shopping decisions...” admits your nephew, straightening the creases on the sleeves of his lime-green velvet onesie. “Alright, maybe more than a couple. But I love bargain hunting! The thrill of finding a 75%-reduced top hat for only 200 @@CURRENCY@@ is something you can’t duplicate! All we need is a universal 30-day cooling off period, during which customers can claim a refund, no questions asked. You know, just in case their tyrannical mothers are nagging them.”

3. “We’ll offer your nephew a One-Off Full Refund, and I’ll even throw in the buttonholes for free next time!” promises @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Dibbler, the appointed representative of a consortium of retailers, audibly capitalising certain words. “And that’s practically cutting my own throat. All we ask is that you let the Free Market operate, for the sake of Freedom. FREEEEDOM. Up to 99% of voters agree that advertising is the core of a successful economy! Our industry is in the top 100% when it comes to ethical business practices and serving the public good. I myself donate up to 50% of my wage to charity!”

4. “In my day, a pint of milk cost what a pint of milk cost,” grumbles @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@, an elderly cleaner interjecting from the back of the room. “You’re the government; you should set a fixed price for everything, and you should do that other thing, seizing the means of production, and wot-not. We don’t need satin pants or hats with feathers on them. We just need what we needs: bread, milk and wot-not, and at a fair price.”
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:14 am

Orientis Noverai wrote:Got an old one from Arch on Arathya:
#1063: Playing It by the Numbers [The Eye of Candlewhisper Archive; ed: Caracasus]

The Issue
Your somewhat gullible nephew has returned from a shopping trip laden with ‘bargains’, including a dozen suits which he says were ‘50%-off’. Upon whipping out the office magnifying glass it appears that the discount stickers have ‘up to’ written in tiny letters just above the numbers, and a quick check of the store catalogue shows most of the items had their prices raised just days before to accommodate the so-called discount. All in all, his shopping trip has cost him twice what he would have paid if he had been charged the manufacturers’ recommended prices.

The Debate
1. “Look, we all know that my son is an idiot,” says your sister irritably, smacking the kid around the head, “but anyone could be misled by these tricks and number games. You don’t approve of con-men, do you? These retailers are legal con-men. For the sake of the consumer you must legislate fair and transparent pricing in retail, and prevent misleading advertising.”

2. “I’ve made a couple of bad shopping decisions...” admits your nephew, straightening the creases on the sleeves of his lime-green velvet onesie. “Alright, maybe more than a couple. But I love bargain hunting! The thrill of finding a 75%-reduced top hat for only 200 @@CURRENCY@@ is something you can’t duplicate! All we need is a universal 30-day cooling off period, during which customers can claim a refund, no questions asked. You know, just in case their tyrannical mothers are nagging them.”

3. “We’ll offer your nephew a One-Off Full Refund, and I’ll even throw in the buttonholes for free next time!” promises @@RANDOMNAME@@, the appointed representative of a consortium of retailers, audibly capitalising certain words. “And that’s practically cutting my own throat. All we ask is that you let the Free Market operate, for the sake of Freedom. FREEEEDOM. Up to 99% of voters agree that advertising is the core of a successful economy! Our industry is in the top 100% when it comes to ethical business practices and serving the public good. I myself donate up to 50% of my wage to charity!”

4. “In my day, a pint of milk cost what a pint of milk cost,” grumbles @@RANDOMFEMALEFIRSTNAME@@, an elderly cleaner interjecting from the back of the room. “You’re the government; you should set a fixed price for everything, and you should do that other thing, seizing the means of production, and wot-not. We don’t need satin pants or hats with feathers on them. We just need what we needs: bread, milk and wot-not, and at a fair price.”

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I've just received that issue too, and or me the name in option 4 was Woody.
What name did you actually get for option 3? For me it was Patty Dibbler, and the 'Dibbler' part of that -- especially in conjunction with the "cutting my own throat" part of their speech -- looks to me like an obvious Discworld reference... '@@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Dibbler', perhaps?
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:51 am

#1064 Culture Wars

The Issue

A family from @@NAME@@ was arrested while on holiday in Tasmania for taking a photo of their child urinating in Lake Sacred - a cultural icon that is revered by all Tasmanians. This incident, and others of @@DEMONYMNOUNPLURAL@@ behaving badly while abroad, has resulted in a national debate about how uncivilized @@NAME@@ appears to the rest of @@REGION@@.

The Debate

1. "We are the laughing stock of @@REGION@@," opines your mother, as she picks up the litter on the floor of your office. "We need to draw up a list of government-sanctioned guidelines to show @@DEMONYMNOUNPLURAL@@ how to behave properly in the countries they are visiting, and require that all travel agents hand over a copy to anyone who books a foreign holiday. We need to understand that, although some @@DEMONYMNOUNPLURAL@@ urinate in fountains and throw rubbish everywhere here, it is not acceptable in other countries."

2. "Unfortunately, that won't be enough to change our bad habits," declares @@RANDOMNAME@@, your old school teacher, as @@HE/SHE@@ orders one of your aides to take out the rubbish bin. "Every time I go out, I see an awful lot of people jumping queues and a few even spitting in restaurants. Have we no shame? Well, I've had enough; I say we ban all citizens from leaving @@NAME@@. Then we will no longer embarrass ourselves in the eyes of @@REGION@@."

3. Your glamorous secretary, @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, checks her perfectly coiffed hair to make sure not a strand is out of place. Wearing her elegant branded dress, she sits coyly and gracefully crosses her stockinged feet. She then sneezes into her palm and wipes the snot all over her clothes. "Who cares what the rest of @@REGION@@ thinks? I like the way we @@DEMONYMNOUNPLURAL@@ are. If those other nations think we're rude, then that's their problem! In fact, why don't we build exhibitions in the other capital cities of @@REGION@@, showcasing our way of doing things? That way, they will stop criticising us and understand us better."

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Postby Sacara » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:02 pm

Bears Armed wrote:I've just received that issue too, and or me the name in option 4 was Woody.
What name did you actually get for option 3? For me it was Patty Dibbler, and the 'Dibbler' part of that -- especially in conjunction with the "cutting my own throat" part of their speech -- looks to me like an obvious Discworld reference... '@@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Dibbler', perhaps?
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:21 pm

An already-bad issue has been made even worse:
#461 If at First You Don't Succeed...

The Issue

After a close shave with a rabid @@ANIMAL@@, a small group of apparatchiks in grey suits have gathered round the hospital bed in which you are recuperating to discuss the delicate issue of the succession.

The Debate

1. "I'm sure we'll have the benefit of your wise guidance for many years to come, @@LEADER@@," says your Chief of Staff @@RANDOMNAME@@, "but just in case the worst should happen, would you mind letting us know who should fill your mighty shoes? Not that such a gargantuan task would be easy, of course."

2. "In the event of your unfortunate demise," suggests your brother as he surreptitiously replaces your recuperative health drink with finest scotch, "@@NAME@@ will need someone to look up to. Let's face it, the country is full of wastrels who need a firm hand. That's why an absolute monarch, with final authority over every aspect of @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ life, is the answer. After all, such a monarch can always choose the right trusted, older candidate of proven loyalty and ability to succeed them. I think I know just the man..."

3. "No, you mustn't!" cries your sister, yanking the scotch from your hand and handing you a grape. "If there is a monarchy, it must be regulated by limits placed by an elected government. That way, the people still get a say in how their country is run, and the person at the top doesn't get overstressed. Not only that, but think what an unscrupulous person might do given absolute power: bump off loathed relatives, persecute political enemies and even destroy the country." Noticing your brother grinning at her, she remembers she has something to do and sprints out of the room.

4. "You know what I think?" declares @@RANDOMNAME@@, your chief of security. "All this talk of replacing you is treason, pure and simple! You must eliminate anyone who has even mentioned the succession at once, before they usurp you!"

5. "I think science might have the solution," claims your attendant physician Virginia O'Leary, who couldn't help overhearing the previous conversations. "With adequate funding and the latest medical technologies, my colleagues and I may be able to dramatically increase your lifespan. It'll mean diverting funds from everyone else's healthcare, of course, but what value would their insignificant little lives have without you, O @@LEADER@@, to guide them?"

6. "Even death need not be the end!" shouts one of your more fervent acolytes before being taken away for a nice lie down in a darkened room. "Why not declare yourself leader in perpetuity? Then we'll never be without your divine guidance! Think about it. @@LEADER@@... forever!"

7. "Er, excuse me," says your nurse, who has been attending to your intravenous drip and so far remained unnoticed, "but shouldn't it be up to the people to decide who your successor is?"

Issue by Psychoneurotica
Edited by Sedgistan


And I found a variant option on an old issue:
#729 Teenage Kicks

The Issue

Dozens of children were seriously injured last week, during Kick a Ginger Day, the traditional start-of-term ritual in which generations of redheaded children at @@ANIMAL@@ Lake Secondary School have been attacked by their classmates. The Principal says their staff, notably devoid of redheads, were out to lunch and heard nothing of the rampage. Sensing a photo-op, you have cancelled your Step-Yoga class and headed over to the school to meet the parents.

The Debate

1. "THIS IS BULLYING!" yells civil-rights activist and parent of redheaded twins, @@RANDOMNAME@@, showing you a photograph of @@HIS/HER@@ children in hospital beds. "It is unconscionable for me to even think that my poor daughters were beaten for something they can't control! All children should be treated equally, regardless of their hair color. What if it was 'Bash a Blonde Day'? Would that be okay? I say we must take a hard line on all forms of bullying in our schools, and wipe it out: teasing, joking, badinage, poking fun, mockery, harrying, pestering..."

2. "Bullying? Please! Now what are those liberal ninnies whining about?" scoffs @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Harker, whose brown-haired son, Paxton, participated in the ritual kicking. "They were foot nudges, uncomfortable for a minute. Two, maybe. Not harmful at all. This is really the erosion of our traditions by the left-wing elite, the suppression of childish high spirits by folks who'd see them become tax-payin' tree-huggin' robots. Why, we did it all the time when I was a kid. At the end, all the normal kids give those weird gingers a hearty thump on the back, accepting 'em as good sports. And they like that. Keep the nanny state out of the playground, and respect our ancient traditions."

4. "Rubbish!" snorts @@RANDOMNAME@@, an avid amateur @@ANIMAL@@ball fan, who busily plucks lint from @@HIS/HER@@ West @@CAPITAL@@ Wanderers sweatshirt and has barely glanced at @@HIS/HER@@ daughter. "Getting kids to be nice, allowing kids to beat each other up. What kids really need is daily contact sports to work off that energy. Once you thrash your opponent on the field, thrashing them with your fist seems kind of pointless. And, there's another upside. Little Tammy Thompson won't have the strength to beat-up anyone if she's spent all day kicking a ball."

5. "The obvious solution has been overlooked," states another parent, programmer Bob 'Chips' Wei, who has spent his whole life trying to blend in. "Simply dye everyone's hair the same colour when they start school. You don't know what it's like, @@LEADER@@. The beating of the drums would start, and then the remorseless chanting, and all the teachers would lock themselves in the staffroom until it was over. To protect children from their playmates' scorn and savagery, uniformity is the only way." Paxton Harker's parent trips him up, and a group of brunette parents guffaw.

Issue by Abhichandra
Edited by The Free Joy State
Validity on 4 appears to be lacking computers.

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Postby Orientis Noverai » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:39 pm

Bears Armed wrote:What name did you actually get for option 3? For me it was Patty Dibbler, and the 'Dibbler' part of that -- especially in conjunction with the "cutting my own throat" part of their speech -- looks to me like an obvious Discworld reference... '@@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Dibbler', perhaps?

Sacara wrote:For me it was Gillian Dribbler.

Gah! Can't believe I've forgotten about C.M.O.T Dibbler...
Bob, so yeah, @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Dibbler.
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:16 pm

Alright, added a few, and... my gosh, I'm only like a third done, but at least there's progress made.

1049: I remember this one. :rofl:
Naughty little one. ;)

1050: Very nice issue! "gangsta music" :lol:
Another naughty little one, I suppose.

1051: I spat when I read the anchovy popped out. :rofl:
Never saw that one before; very nice issue. :)

1052: Oh, I love this narrative structure. And the atmopshere is phenomenal.
I lost it at jaywalkers, though. :lol:

I swear these new 2-option issues are some of the best. :)

1053: My gosh, another somewhat naughty issue. I am very curious about the validity of option 3...

Any confirmation of name randomness/fixedness is appreciated but I understand why that might be impossible.
Thankfully I've got 1049 and 1052. :P
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Postby Trotterdam » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:25 pm

Jutsa wrote:1052: Oh, I love this narrative structure. And the atmopshere is phenomenal.
I lost it at jaywalkers, though. :lol:

I swear these new 2-option issues are some of the best. :)
I prefer issues with more options issues in general, but having only two options works well this time due to the time crunch. There are various other ways you could have dealt with the problem if you anticipated it sooner, but with only half an hour to work with, there's not much you can do.
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Postby Oppermenia » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:14 pm

Hey, so I saw an issue change. I couldn't say exactly what it is, but a general idea.
My puppet got #461 If at First You Don't Succeed.
In that issue, normally it would have your eldest child and your eldest brother suggesting a hereditary monarchy.
With this version, it had your eldest brother suggesting an absolute monarchy, and your eldest sister suggesting a monarchy "limited and regulated by elected officials", or a constitutional one.
"Stick to the pack, and the pack will provide."
We are a leftist nation that believes in the "we" over "I". That's why we are fond of wolves, because the Alpha looks after the pack.
Stick with us, and give us loyalty, and we'll do things that benefit you, and we'll stick with you.
If you cross us, however, then as a pack, we will hunt you.
Don't underestimate us.
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I got issue #1062.

Postby Techolandia » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:55 pm

The Circuit City Herald
VOL. 32 NO. 1,062
CITY FINAL
THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 6, 2018

The Hunt for Violet November
The Issue

Blackacre, a nation historically opposed to @@NATION@@, has declared that their submarine Violet November has gone missing, and are keen to scour the area where it was last spotted — just off the edge of the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ continental shelf.
The Debate

choice-0 “Thank you for meeting with me on such short notice, Leader,” says Tyrone Lancaster, a diminutive Blackacrean ambassador. “Our submarine was just a training vessel that got erm... blown off course... or something. But the main issue here is saving the thirty crew members that are on board before their oxygen runs out! Any kind of help will be greatly appreciated: freedom of movement for our search boats, logistical aid, rescue teams, engineers... This is such a great opportunity for our two nations to start on a path towards greater friendship.”

choice-1 “A training vessel? Yeah! Right!” exclaims Rear Admiral Dahl as the ambassador leaves your office. “I bet all my navy ribbons that we’re talking about a spy sub or a nuke platform! Those Blackacreans are always stirring up trouble and encroaching into our territorial waters. You should have our own submarines, frigates and destroyers search out and destroy unauthorised military vessels, including this sub, once we find it! That will give them something to think about before trespassing here again.”

Issue by The Capitalist Alliance of The-CID

Edited by Candlewhisper Archive

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Postby Jutsa » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:12 pm

time cruch.
That's probably a big part of it. Really immerses you into the story when you feel like you've got an urgent, snap decision to make.
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:11 am

Issue #1064: Culture Wars

The Issue
A family from Tinhampton was arrested while on holiday in Tasmania for taking a photo of their child urinating in Lake Sacred - a cultural icon that is revered by all Tasmanians. This incident, and others of Tinhamptonians behaving badly while abroad, has resulted in a national debate about how uncivilized Tinhampton appears to the rest of The East Pacific.

The Debate
  1. “We are the laughing stock of The East Pacific,” opines your mother, as she picks up the litter on the floor of your office. “We need to draw up a list of government-sanctioned guidelines to show Tinhamptonians how to behave properly in the countries they are visiting, and require that all travel agents hand over a copy to anyone who books a foreign holiday. We need to understand that, although some Tinhamptonians urinate in fountains and throw rubbish everywhere here, it is not acceptable in other countries.”
  2. “Unfortunately, that won’t be enough to change our bad habits,” declares Sipho Gutnick, your old school teacher, as he orders one of your aides to take out the rubbish bin. “Every time I go out, I see an awful lot of people jumping queues and a few even spitting in restaurants. Have we no shame? Well, I’ve had enough; I say we ban all citizens from leaving Tinhampton. Then we will no longer embarrass ourselves in the eyes of The East Pacific.”
  3. Your glamorous secretary, Kristy Neumann, checks her perfectly coiffed hair to make sure not a strand is out of place. Wearing her elegant branded dress, she sits coyly and gracefully crosses her stockinged feet. She then sneezes into her palm and wipes the snot all over her clothes. “Who cares what the rest of The East Pacific thinks? I like the way we Tinhamptonians are. If those other nations think we’re rude, then that’s their problem! In fact, why don’t we build exhibitions in the other capital cities of The East Pacific, showcasing our way of doing things? That way, they will stop criticising us and understand us better.”
Issue by The Imperial Glorious Empire of Baggieland
Edited by Baggieland
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Postby Jutsa » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:49 am

Another update:

1053: Fixed the names. Thank you, FJS!
1054: Added! A nice little issue, FuF :)
1055: This one's pretty funny, hats off to you Baggie. :3

Also updated the list of nations.
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Postby Jutsa » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:04 pm

Yet Another Update:
Added 1056-1059!
Also randomized 411.4's name

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Also, #1060 appears to be a followup to #342 5 and #470 4. And that should finally close this wave of issue additions.
342.5? That's not reported yet o_o
Found it on NSI: Added. >_>
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Postby Humane Chinchillas » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:04 am

Trotterdam wrote:Option 3 on #413 appears to be unavailable on nations without jails, without receiving a replacement.

This is true, and maybe it should be reflected in viewtopic.php?f=13&t=88#413.

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Postby Drachmaland » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:40 am

Trotterdam wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:It actually chains from two options of the original issue...
Confirmed: the other option that can lead to #972 is #633 option 6.

Nations without a Leader set (having taken the 242.4 option) won't receive 633.6, therefore their only path to #972 is 633.1.

Most probably, putting a note on the validity of 633.6 regrading the need for a Leader's existence might be a good idea.

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