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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:31 pm

It must have happened some time ago, if the title wasn't just misrecorded to begin with, because it's been that way in my own notes all along.

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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:59 am

Looks like 468 is missing auth/edit. [Caracasus; ed:Lenyo]
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Gnejs
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Gnejs » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:21 am

While we're pointing out things, 459 needs a couple of @@CAPITAL@@ at select places.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:39 am

Luna Amore wrote:Looks like 468 is missing auth/edit. [Caracasus; ed:Lenyo]

Finally. When the issue was first posted, nobody had author and editor names.

viewtopic.php?p=27126178#p27126178

Gnejs wrote:While we're pointing out things, 459 needs a couple of @@CAPITAL@@ at select places.

Oops. Fixed.
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
^ repealed resolution
#360: Electile Dysfunction
#452: Foetal Furore
#560: Bicameral Backlash
#570: Clerical Errors

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I didn't get this, but it's on the regular forum so...

Postby Annihilators of Chan Island » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:17 am

Income gaps in Charles Dexter Ward have become so tiny that the pay check of a Pizza Delivery leader barely surpasses that of their janitors. While some decry this as a sign of the end of days, others hail it as the beginning of something great.

The Debate

"You are effectively killing Charles Dexter Ward," bemoans Ayn Bland, homespun philosopher and author of the long forgotten novel 'The Fountain Pen'. "Our most prominent minds are barely making more than average second-handers. There is no incentive to work your way up, and if we continue like this I guarantee that productivity will plummet and creativity and ingenuity will be a thing of the past. The government needs to stop forcing businesses to pay their workers such similar wages, cut taxes, and abolish any and all welfare. Only then will our prime movers flourish and the common plebeians put forth their best effort."

Accept

"What is this I hear about some citizens making more than others? Everybody is a winner and all must have prizes!" shouts Virginia Sato, obscure anthropologist and author of absurdist children's books. "Every last man and woman should be paid the same amount of mNas. This must be our #1 goal. My studies of the Dodo tribe in East Lebatuck clearly shows that complete equality of outcome promotes and nurtures stability, compassion and harmony within the community. The government needs to make sure that everybody is awarded their exact share of our common riches."

Accept

"Equality without direction or purpose is just useless moralism," bluntly states Karl Sparx, a first-year economy student . "For the time being, we should pay people based on their contribution to the social product. The same amount you give to society, the same amount you shall receive in return. It's the only rational way to promote productivity. Yes, my plan will entail less income equality in the short run, but a blissful paradise of abundance and workers' comradery in the Glorious People's Republic of Charles Dexter Ward once we progress from the lower phases! Oh, did I forget to mention that this is contingent on you nationalizing all industry in the name of the proletariat? Well, yeah, you need to do that."

Accept

"Good points, terrible solution," declares Alexander Giono, one of your Bigtopian consultants, a strong proponent of the increasingly popular 'Third Wheel' approach to economic policy. "Some genuine income disparity could really help you promote growth, but you don't want come across all insensitive and harsh. Maybe a way out of this is a little rebranding? Roll back wage regulations and reprioritize funds from welfare and social policy to education and business, while simultaneously stressing that the government values equality of opportunity above outcome. You'll come across as a modern and socially responsible leader, while saving money and stimulating the economy. There, problem solved. As for my fee, should I send you a bill, or do you prefer cash up front?"

Accept

"Some people do deserve to be paid more than others..." opines a local bus driver. "We should pay people progressively, based on how important their jobs truly are to the the Dominion and its citizens. Trust me, a bus driver knows these things; I've seen them all and can tell you what they're really worth. Like bus drivers, for instance. I'm responsible for hundreds of peoples life's every day, from Down Town Charles Dexter Ward City up across a 110th street. Or the people looking after your kids all day, the little old lady making jam for our toasts. Those are the true heroes of Charles Dexter Ward, and they should be paid accordingly."

Issue by: The Socialist Federal Republic of Czechostan
Editor: Gnejs
Last edited by Annihilators of Chan Island on Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Drachmaland » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:06 am

Issue #483: Do You Want Fries With That?

The Issue

Mobs of disgruntled employees picket fast-food chains across @@NAME@@, tossing cheeseburgers at customers and burning their uniforms – all in the name of dignity and fairer wages.

The Debate

1. "MERRY MEALS, MERRY WORKERS!" chants a pubescent protester. "For far too long have our families starved because of pitiful wages. I mean, really, what are we supposed to do with one @@CURRENCY@@ a day? Eat it!? @@NAME@@ needs to set a new minimum floor for wages, and protect workers – the least that can go wrong is a little bump in the price of your Big Max - what's the big deal?"

2. "Oh the horror! THE HORROR!" gasps the McRonalds CEO as he watches a video of protesters deep-frying the company mascot. "Not Ronald! Anyone but Ronald! They've gone bananas! Leader, their complaints are ridiculous, I assure you. They should be grateful for the wage they get for, what, flipping a few burgers? Give me a break. I implore you to send in the police and stop these mouth-breathers from scaring away our custom- eh, I mean, to protect our citizens, of course..."

3. "The problem isn't wages, darling," says a 'chatty cathy' working the counter at Papa Pallocci's Pizza Pagoda. "It's all the 'part time' hours - the 'seasonal' work, 'overtime', 'no overtime', 'zero-contracts' – before you know it, we'll all be working part-part-part-time! We should go back to a simple work-week for all us slaves to the retail industry. 8-5. Sure, it'll make places hard to staff, but who wants a burger at midnight anyways?"

4. "Eww, fast food," says @@RANDOMNAME@@, sipping a glass of almond milk to wash down a fresh kale salad. "We should just get rid of it altogether. Who could be bothered with those cheap, greasy trans-fats? Yuck! Gluttony gone amok as far as I'm concerned. We should aim for a higher standard of food: vegetarian, vegan, organic. C'est magnifique!"

Issue by: The rejected realms issue committee
Editor: Sanctaria
Last edited by Drachmaland on Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:09 am

Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:I didn't get this, but it's on the regular forum so...
Let me macrofy that for you.
Income gaps in @@NAME@@ have become so tiny that the pay check of a @@MAJORINDUSTRY@@ leader barely surpasses that of their janitors. While some decry this as a sign of the end of days, others hail it as the beginning of something great.

1. "You are effectively killing @@NAME@@," bemoans Ayn Bland, homespun philosopher and author of the long forgotten novel 'The Fountain Pen'. "Our most prominent minds are barely making more than average second-handers. There is no incentive to work your way up, and if we continue like this I guarantee that productivity will plummet and creativity and ingenuity will be a thing of the past. The government needs to stop forcing businesses to pay their workers such similar wages, cut taxes, and abolish any and all welfare. Only then will our prime movers flourish and the common plebeians put forth their best effort."

2. "What is this I hear about some citizens making more than others? Everybody is a winner and all must have prizes!" shouts @@RANDOMNAME@@, obscure anthropologist and author of absurdist children's books. "Every last man and woman should be paid the same amount of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@. This must be our #1 goal. My studies of the Dodo tribe in East Lebatuck clearly shows that complete equality of outcome promotes and nurtures stability, compassion and harmony within the community. The government needs to make sure that everybody is awarded their exact share of our common riches."

3. "Equality without direction or purpose is just useless moralism," bluntly states Karl Sparx, a first-year economy student . "For the time being, we should pay people based on their contribution to the social product. The same amount you give to society, the same amount you shall receive in return. It's the only rational way to promote productivity. Yes, my plan will entail less income equality in the short run, but a blissful paradise of abundance and workers' comradery in the Glorious People's Republic of @@NAME@@ once we progress from the lower phases! Oh, did I forget to mention that this is contingent on you nationalizing all industry in the name of the proletariat? Well, yeah, you need to do that."

4. "Good points, terrible solution," declares @@RANDOMNAME@@, one of your Bigtopian consultants, a strong proponent of the increasingly popular 'Third Wheel' approach to economic policy. "Some genuine income disparity could really help you promote growth, but you don't want come across all insensitive and harsh. Maybe a way out of this is a little rebranding? Roll back wage regulations and reprioritize funds from welfare and social policy to education and business, while simultaneously stressing that the government values equality of opportunity above outcome. You'll come across as a modern and socially responsible leader, while saving money and stimulating the economy. There, problem solved. As for my fee, should I send you a bill, or do you prefer cash up front?"

5. "Some people do deserve to be paid more than others..." opines a local bus driver. "We should pay people progressively, based on how important their jobs truly are to the the @@TYPE@@ and its citizens. Trust me, a bus driver knows these things; I've seen them all and can tell you what they're really worth. Like bus drivers, for instance. I'm responsible for hundreds of peoples life's every day, from Down Town @@CAPITAL@@ up across a 110th street. Or the people looking after your kids all day, the little old lady making jam for our toasts. Those are the true heroes of @@NAME@@, and they should be paid accordingly."

Issue by: Czechostan
Editor: Gnejs


Drachmaland wrote:I mean, really, what are we supposed to do with one @@CURRENCY@@ a day? Eat it!?
New plan: use chocolate coins as my country's currency. Why isn't that an option?

Drachmaland wrote:"the least that can go wrong is a little bump in the price of your Big Max - what's the big deal?"
Huh. Usually people who support a course of action talk about the most that can go wrong...

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Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf
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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:55 pm

Issue #482 Whose Fault Is It Anyways?

The Issue

After a frantic and disgruntled couple set the record for most domestic violence complaints in a single month, people have begun to reconsider the nation's uncompromising opposition to divorce.

The Debate

"Get your dirty hands off my kids!" screams Miranda Lee while strangling her husband. "I never want to see you ever again! Saymuellyn Charles Champlaeignei, all that I want is to divorce my idiotic husband for ... reasons I won't explain. I demand that you legalize divorce so I can get rid of this scumbag once and for all. Hold still dear, my hands are slipping."

Accept

"Arghhh! Get your hands off my throat!" croaks her husband while frantically trying to escape his wife's grasp. "Of course you're gonna bring up that instance with your sister. I only did that because of what you did with my brother!" The man catches his breath, then continues, "Saymuellyn Charles Champlaeignei, my shrew of a wife fails to recognize the real problem. The government is doing nothing to help strained couples stay together. Marriage counseling needs to be free, for the sake of families across Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf. Any problem can be solved with enough... arghh! Get off me!"

Accept

"Matrimony is a sacred union that cannot be broken," intones your grandmother, Doris McKay, reciting holy texts. "What would happen to spouses if we allowed them to separate? How do you explain to children that their parents no longer love each other? And you mustn't forget that divorce tears families apart every day in godless Bigtopia and Marche Noire. So even if the romance ended a long time ago in a marriage, couples must remain faithful, for which they will be rewarded in the afterlife."

Accept

"You know, this all could have easily been prevented," states Will Eye the Science Guy, after petitioning for state funds to build a doomsday device. "Scientific advancements in Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf have made it possible for us to give all people compatibility tests to determine exact matches for their future spouses. Assuming the tests are administered perfectly, marital strife will be a thing of the past. The only people that could possibly want a divorce would be those who lied on the test, and we have ways to know if they are lying." At this, his rubs his hands together and laughs maniacally.

Accept

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The government has yet to formalize a position on this issue.

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Issue by: The Ubermensch Serene Socialists of Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf
Editor: Lenyo

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Postby Christian Democrats » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:12 am

Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:Income gaps in Charles Dexter Ward have become so tiny that the pay check of a Pizza Delivery leader barely surpasses that of their janitors. While some decry this as a sign of the end of days, others hail it as the beginning of something great.

The Debate

"You are effectively killing Charles Dexter Ward," bemoans Ayn Bland, homespun philosopher and author of the long forgotten novel 'The Fountain Pen'. "Our most prominent minds are barely making more than average second-handers. There is no incentive to work your way up, and if we continue like this I guarantee that productivity will plummet and creativity and ingenuity will be a thing of the past. The government needs to stop forcing businesses to pay their workers such similar wages, cut taxes, and abolish any and all welfare. Only then will our prime movers flourish and the common plebeians put forth their best effort."

Accept

"What is this I hear about some citizens making more than others? Everybody is a winner and all must have prizes!" shouts Virginia Sato, obscure anthropologist and author of absurdist children's books. "Every last man and woman should be paid the same amount of mNas. This must be our #1 goal. My studies of the Dodo tribe in East Lebatuck clearly shows that complete equality of outcome promotes and nurtures stability, compassion and harmony within the community. The government needs to make sure that everybody is awarded their exact share of our common riches."

Accept

"Equality without direction or purpose is just useless moralism," bluntly states Karl Sparx, a first-year economy student . "For the time being, we should pay people based on their contribution to the social product. The same amount you give to society, the same amount you shall receive in return. It's the only rational way to promote productivity. Yes, my plan will entail less income equality in the short run, but a blissful paradise of abundance and workers' comradery in the Glorious People's Republic of Charles Dexter Ward once we progress from the lower phases! Oh, did I forget to mention that this is contingent on you nationalizing all industry in the name of the proletariat? Well, yeah, you need to do that."

Accept

"Good points, terrible solution," declares Alexander Giono, one of your Bigtopian consultants, a strong proponent of the increasingly popular 'Third Wheel' approach to economic policy. "Some genuine income disparity could really help you promote growth, but you don't want come across all insensitive and harsh. Maybe a way out of this is a little rebranding? Roll back wage regulations and reprioritize funds from welfare and social policy to education and business, while simultaneously stressing that the government values equality of opportunity above outcome. You'll come across as a modern and socially responsible leader, while saving money and stimulating the economy. There, problem solved. As for my fee, should I send you a bill, or do you prefer cash up front?"

Accept

"Some people do deserve to be paid more than others..." opines a local bus driver. "We should pay people progressively, based on how important their jobs truly are to the the Dominion and its citizens. Trust me, a bus driver knows these things; I've seen them all and can tell you what they're really worth. Like bus drivers, for instance. I'm responsible for hundreds of peoples life's every day, from Down Town Charles Dexter Ward City up across a 110th street. Or the people looking after your kids all day, the little old lady making jam for our toasts. Those are the true heroes of Charles Dexter Ward, and they should be paid accordingly."

Issue by: The Socialist Federal Republic of Czechostan
Editor: Gnejs

Before I update the issues, may I ask what this one is named?
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
^ repealed resolution
#360: Electile Dysfunction
#452: Foetal Furore
#560: Bicameral Backlash
#570: Clerical Errors

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Gnejs » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:41 am

There has been some changes made to this one, so please use this version:

#481 Social Equality Reaching Embarrassing Levels

Income gaps in @@NAME@@ have become so tiny that the paychecks of @@MAJORINDUSTRY@@ CEOs barely surpass that of their secretaries. While some decry this as a sign of the end of days, others hail it as the beginning of something great.

The Debate

"You are effectively killing @@NAME@@," bemoans Ayn Bland, homespun philosopher and author of the long forgotten novel 'The Fountain Pen'. "Our most prominent minds are barely making more than average second-handers. There is no incentive to work your way up, and if we continue like this I guarantee that productivity will plummet and creativity and ingenuity will be a thing of the past. The government needs to stop forcing businesses to pay their workers such similar wages, cut taxes, and abolish any and all welfare. Only then will our prime movers flourish and the common plebeians put forth their best effort."

"What is this I hear about some citizens making more than others? Everybody is a winner and all must have prizes!" shouts @@RANDOMNAME@@, obscure anthropologist and author of absurdist children's books. "Every last man and woman should be paid the same amount of Leaves. This must be our #1 goal. My studies of the Dodo tribe in East Lebatuck clearly shows that complete equality of outcome promotes and nurtures stability, compassion and harmony within the community. The government needs to make sure that everybody is awarded their exact share of our common riches."

"Equality without direction or purpose is just useless moralism," bluntly states Karl Sparx, a first-year economy student . "For the time being, we should pay people based on their contribution to the social product. The same amount you give to society, the same amount you shall receive in return. It's the only rational way to promote productivity. Yes, my plan will entail less income equality in the short run, but a blissful paradise of abundance and workers' comradery in the Glorious People's Republic of @@NAME@@ once we progress from the lower phases! Oh, did I forget to mention that this is contingent on you nationalizing all industry in the name of the proletariat? Well, yeah, you need to do that."

"Good points, terrible solution," declares @@RANDOMNAME@@, one of your Bigtopian consultants, a strong proponent of the increasingly popular 'Third Wheel' approach to economic policy. "Some genuine income disparity could really help you promote growth, but you don't want come across all insensitive and harsh. Maybe a way out of this is a little rebranding? Roll back wage regulations and reprioritize funds from welfare and social policy to education and business, while simultaneously stressing that the government values equality of opportunity above outcome. You'll come across as a modern and socially responsible leader, while saving money and stimulating the economy. There, problem solved. As for my fee, should I send you a bill, or do you prefer cash up front?"

"Some people do deserve to be paid more than others..." opines a local bus driver. "We should pay people progressively, based on how important their jobs truly are to the the @@TYPE@@ and its citizens. Trust me, a bus driver knows these things; I've seen them all and can tell you what they're really worth. Like bus drivers, for instance. I'm responsible for hundreds of peoples life's every day, from Down Town @@CAPITAL@@ up across a 110th street. Or the people looking after your kids all day, the little old lady making jam for our toasts. Those are the true heroes of @@NAME@@, and they should be paid accordingly."

Author: Czechostan

Editor: Gnejs

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Postby Christian Democrats » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:01 pm

Issues updated. :)
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
^ repealed resolution
#360: Electile Dysfunction
#452: Foetal Furore
#560: Bicameral Backlash
#570: Clerical Errors

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Postby Rejistania » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:19 pm

#484: Patriot Or Patri-not?

A recent poll of the population has revealed that patriotism is at an all-time low. The nation's few remaining patriots have crowded in your office, as they desperately try to boost @@NATION@@'s public pride.


1. "I'm shocked and appalled!" gasps @@CAPITAL@@ town crier Zack Shiomi, decked out in an obnoxious outfit with the same color scheme as the national flag. "People should be proud to call themselves a citizen of @@NATION@@, and we ought to start their proper political education when they're young. History and civics classes need to be mandatory, so long as those lefty liberal loons aren't providing the material. Kids must be forced to recite the national anthem and the Pledge of @@NATION@@ in schools. That'll show those godless commies in East Lebatuck! Long live the @@TYPE@@!"

2. "Frankly, that doesn't go far enough!" argues your military aide-de-camp, General Sashona Cruz while flexing her muscles. "The government must instill pride in @@NATION@@ at every opportunity. The national anthem should be played over public loudspeakers. Flags and propaganda posters need to be on every street corner. We can even place subliminal messages in movies, music, and art. Oh, and we can have big military parades in major cities. Nothing says @@MOTTO@@ like the display of raw military might!"

3. "Maybe if the people saw the government doing something good for a change, they would feel differently," suggests Klaus Parke, who was the only person to show up for a scheduled tour group. "All I see on the news are issues about government scandals, partisan blowhards insulting each other, or some military official threatening war with Maxtopia. No wonder our citizens think this country is a disgrace. The government could tone down the craziness and say oh, I don't know, help out the victims of that earthquake in Blackacre or enact some policies to help end homelessness. Who knows, maybe people will be proud to call themselves @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ once again?"

4. "Or, you know, we can do none of that," yawns an apathetic citizen wearing a Bigtopian football jersey, who only came to the meeting because of your offer of free pizza. "I mean, not everyone wants to support the country or whatever. People shouldn't be forced into loving the country through government action. Sure, then maybe you won't have people caring as much, but... hey! The Real Housewives of @@CAPITAL@@ is coming on. Is there a television somewhere in here?"
Rejis sjiki, linux sjiki, alari sjiki, korona sjiki!
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"Tekneluru mi'aru mi aji, il'sidekhir'ra mi, lajistas. Mi'ki'vasu kynha'het kijitax." Hank͜hila Sede, first lentine (translation: A dream is only a dream until it is reached. After that, it becomes something trivial)

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This person is pro-EU and proud of it! They are also a Eurofederalist and want the Federated States of Europe!

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Postby Christian Democrats » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:49 pm

Rejistania wrote:#484: Patriot Or Patri-not?

A recent poll of the population has revealed that patriotism is at an all-time low. The nation's few remaining patriots have crowded in your office, as they desperately try to boost @@NATION@@'s public pride.


1. "I'm shocked and appalled!" gasps @@CAPITAL@@ town crier Zack Shiomi, decked out in an obnoxious outfit with the same color scheme as the national flag. "People should be proud to call themselves a citizen of @@NATION@@, and we ought to start their proper political education when they're young. History and civics classes need to be mandatory, so long as those lefty liberal loons aren't providing the material. Kids must be forced to recite the national anthem and the Pledge of @@NATION@@ in schools. That'll show those godless commies in East Lebatuck! Long live the @@TYPE@@!"

2. "Frankly, that doesn't go far enough!" argues your military aide-de-camp, General Sashona Cruz while flexing her muscles. "The government must instill pride in @@NATION@@ at every opportunity. The national anthem should be played over public loudspeakers. Flags and propaganda posters need to be on every street corner. We can even place subliminal messages in movies, music, and art. Oh, and we can have big military parades in major cities. Nothing says @@MOTTO@@ like the display of raw military might!"

3. "Maybe if the people saw the government doing something good for a change, they would feel differently," suggests Klaus Parke, who was the only person to show up for a scheduled tour group. "All I see on the news are issues about government scandals, partisan blowhards insulting each other, or some military official threatening war with Maxtopia. No wonder our citizens think this country is a disgrace. The government could tone down the craziness and say oh, I don't know, help out the victims of that earthquake in Blackacre or enact some policies to help end homelessness. Who knows, maybe people will be proud to call themselves @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ once again?"

4. "Or, you know, we can do none of that," yawns an apathetic citizen wearing a Bigtopian football jersey, who only came to the meeting because of your offer of free pizza. "I mean, not everyone wants to support the country or whatever. People shouldn't be forced into loving the country through government action. Sure, then maybe you won't have people caring as much, but... hey! The Real Housewives of @@CAPITAL@@ is coming on. Is there a television somewhere in here?"

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Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
^ repealed resolution
#360: Electile Dysfunction
#452: Foetal Furore
#560: Bicameral Backlash
#570: Clerical Errors

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Postby Nation of Quebec » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:12 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Rejistania wrote:#484: Patriot Or Patri-not?

A recent poll of the population has revealed that patriotism is at an all-time low. The nation's few remaining patriots have crowded in your office, as they desperately try to boost @@NATION@@'s public pride.


1. "I'm shocked and appalled!" gasps @@CAPITAL@@ town crier Zack Shiomi, decked out in an obnoxious outfit with the same color scheme as the national flag. "People should be proud to call themselves a citizen of @@NATION@@, and we ought to start their proper political education when they're young. History and civics classes need to be mandatory, so long as those lefty liberal loons aren't providing the material. Kids must be forced to recite the national anthem and the Pledge of @@NATION@@ in schools. That'll show those godless commies in East Lebatuck! Long live the @@TYPE@@!"

2. "Frankly, that doesn't go far enough!" argues your military aide-de-camp, General Sashona Cruz while flexing her muscles. "The government must instill pride in @@NATION@@ at every opportunity. The national anthem should be played over public loudspeakers. Flags and propaganda posters need to be on every street corner. We can even place subliminal messages in movies, music, and art. Oh, and we can have big military parades in major cities. Nothing says @@MOTTO@@ like the display of raw military might!"

3. "Maybe if the people saw the government doing something good for a change, they would feel differently," suggests Klaus Parke, who was the only person to show up for a scheduled tour group. "All I see on the news are issues about government scandals, partisan blowhards insulting each other, or some military official threatening war with Maxtopia. No wonder our citizens think this country is a disgrace. The government could tone down the craziness and say oh, I don't know, help out the victims of that earthquake in Blackacre or enact some policies to help end homelessness. Who knows, maybe people will be proud to call themselves @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ once again?"

4. "Or, you know, we can do none of that," yawns an apathetic citizen wearing a Bigtopian football jersey, who only came to the meeting because of your offer of free pizza. "I mean, not everyone wants to support the country or whatever. People shouldn't be forced into loving the country through government action. Sure, then maybe you won't have people caring as much, but... hey! The Real Housewives of @@CAPITAL@@ is coming on. Is there a television somewhere in here?"

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The name macros should be fixed. #1 is @@RANDOMNAME@@, #2 is @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, #3 is @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, and the character in #4 is left unnamed.

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Postby Annihilators of Chan Island » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:12 am

I was just about to do something about patriotism :( Oh well, back to the drawing board.
This nation is modeled on being my absolute worst dystopia imaginable. In no way do the Annihilators reflect my opinions, in fact I am totally against almost every single policy they enact.
I support insanely high tax rates, do you?

I honestly really like to write issues.

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Postby Unibot III » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:57 am

For a long time, patriotism was not allowed as a topic of discussion in NS Issues.
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:55 pm

Unibot III wrote:For a long time, patriotism was not allowed as a topic of discussion in NS Issues.
Why not? And why did you change your mind?

Does this open the possibility to someday having a Most Patriotic Citizens / National Pride census? Not a high priority, obviously, but would still be interesting.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:05 pm

Issue #484 has been added with the appropriate corrections.
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
^ repealed resolution
#360: Electile Dysfunction
#452: Foetal Furore
#560: Bicameral Backlash
#570: Clerical Errors

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Postby Drachmaland » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:18 pm

Does anyone know what the validity for receiving option 479.3 is?
I see a nation got only option 479.1, 479.2 and 479.4.
Last edited by Drachmaland on Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:32 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Postby Trotterdam » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:45 pm

Drachmaland wrote:Does anyone know what the validity for receiving option 479.3 is?
I see a nation got only option 479.1, 479.2 and 479.4.
Only the editors can know for sure, but I suspect it has to do with having a high Scientific Advancement, or at least not having banned computers.

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Postby Drachmaland » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:26 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
Drachmaland wrote:Does anyone know what the validity for receiving option 479.3 is?
I see a nation got only option 479.1, 479.2 and 479.4.
Only the editors can know for sure, but I suspect it has to do with having a high Scientific Advancement, or at least not having banned computers.

Sometimes I see option validities being given at the issue inventory (e.g. 358.4 or 472.2/3).

This nation has a SciAdv of 73 (World Average: 62) and has not banned computers.
And we know that a nation can receive the self-driving regulations issue albeit having a SciAdv of just –63, so I wouldn't expect such an exclusion here.

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Postby Drachmaland » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:02 pm

Unibot III wrote:For a long time, patriotism was not allowed as a topic of discussion in NS Issues.

Bumped into Issue #378 (The War To End All Wars) earlier today, and I believe it is an issue clearly dealing with patriotism — so I don't know when this "embargo on dealing with patriotism in NS issues" ended.

Of course some patriotism-boosting decisions can be made by nations adopting options like e.g. 104.1 or 464.2. (Some RL Americans could say that even option 319.2 is literally patriotic.)

But generally speaking, numerous other issues use the "patriot(ic)" trope to suggest either clear-cut anti-foreigner (and a few times pro-tradition) — or someone claiming the term for what fits one's own narrow and/or personal views/profit/benefit/interests scope.

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Postby Trotterdam » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:40 pm

Drachmaland wrote:Sometimes I see option validities being given at the issue inventory (e.g. 358.4 or 472.2/3).
These are simply educated guesses. The circumstances are straightforward enough that they're like 99% likely to be right, but I don't believe they have been confirmed. (At least in the case of #472, I'm pretty sure that they were only listed so on my say-so, and I know I don't have any inside info! I'm pretty confident I'm right, though.)

Drachmaland wrote:This nation has a SciAdv of 73 (World Average: 62) and has not banned computers.
And we know that a nation can receive the self-driving regulations issue albeit having a SciAdv of just –63, so I wouldn't expect such an exclusion here.
Well, I'm stumped.

Self-driving cars were previously mentioned in #272 and #463, but neither of those have a context that makes it seem likely any particular choice on them would be a prerequisite for having self-driving cars in the future. (#272 only appears in nations that have made a weird decision - abolishing speed limits - and #463 assumes you already have the technology for self-driving cars and are just nitpicking the details.)

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Postby Naasseners » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:51 pm

The listing for issue #109 (Karate Kids Cause Controversy) is missing the fourth option:
"Discipline? Oh heavens no, our lives are already too restricted by the iron cage of rules and policing," says unorthodox youth pastor George W. Goethe, seen weaving a basket from blades of grass. "Our young people need to reconnect with the spirit within, and the best way to do that is to be one with nature and appreciate the bounty all around us. Redirect some of those police funds to my summer camps, and then youths can learn how to live freely and simply by crafting their own supplies from scratch."


...actually, I don't remember seeing that choice before. Even though I've seen the issue itself numerous times by now.

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Postby Phydios » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:38 pm

Naasseners wrote:The listing for issue #109 (Karate Kids Cause Controversy) is missing the fourth option:
"Discipline? Oh heavens no, our lives are already too restricted by the iron cage of rules and policing," says unorthodox youth pastor George W. Goethe, seen weaving a basket from blades of grass. "Our young people need to reconnect with the spirit within, and the best way to do that is to be one with nature and appreciate the bounty all around us. Redirect some of those police funds to my summer camps, and then youths can learn how to live freely and simply by crafting their own supplies from scratch."


...actually, I don't remember seeing that choice before. Even though I've seen the issue itself numerous times by now.

Some options have validities, just like issues. "Gone A Stray!" has one example, which suggests just shooting all the strays in the head. I don't know the validity, but sometimes it appears for me and sometimes it doesn't.
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If you claim to be religious but don’t control your tongue, you are fooling yourself, and your religion is worthless. Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. | Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’

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