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Minskiev
Minister
 
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Founded: Apr 20, 2020
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Minskiev » Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:58 am

oops, pretend this isn't here. have a good day :)
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Minskiev
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Minskiev » Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:58 am

Some People Never Listen [Terrabod; Candlewhisper Archive]

Caught #1477.

The Issue
Two senior officials caught having affairs, five separate expenses scandals and the leaking of top-secret plans for the Cabinet Secretary’s birthday party is usually more than enough to cover in one public announcement. You were therefore surprised to find that another issue altogether has caught the public’s attention: activists representing the nation’s deaf and hearing-impaired communities have taken you to task over the lack of a Minskievian Sign Language interpreter at your public addresses.

The Debate
1. “Being deaf doesn’t have to be an impairment, so don’t make it one,” signs activist Finnick Smiley, adding a few more vulgar hand gestures that you are sure aren’t official sign language. “Having an interpreter is the least you could do. Deaf people in Minskiev are subject to a harmful mix of preconceptions and ignorance, so it’s about time you listened to us. Perhaps you could also establish a national ‘Deaf Awareness Week’ to celebrate the contributions deaf people have made to society, and to persuade organisations and individuals to bear us in mind.”

2. “I’m not paying for that!” scoffs your Minister of Equality, facing away from the activist to deter lip reading. “I watched an address by the leader of Albionia last month and was thoroughly distracted by a man waving his hands about and pulling faces behind her. She may not have died on stage, but it was a near-deaf experience! If these deaf people really want to know what’s going on, they can watch us on the television and just turn the subtitles on. Automatic closed captioning is getting really good these days, and preserves the dignity of your excellent oratory.”

3. “Speaking to the public is overrated, and clearly a waste of your valuable time,” your crusty Minister of Public Relations whispers, his dry lips all but brushing against your ear. “As long as you do the job well, the people of Minskiev won’t care what goes on behind closed doors. And if things don’t go to plan, well, won’t you be glad you don’t have to talk to them?”
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Rocain Founder
Envoy
 
Posts: 278
Founded: Aug 01, 2020
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rocain Founder » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:31 am

My post from some days ago on issue #1309.

Rocain Founder wrote:The spoiler for issue #1309 shows options 3 and 4 as alternatives to each other: 3 for meat-eating nations, and 4 for vegetarian nations. This is incorrect. Puppet Cain A R-E El v1 received this issue with both 3 and 4 as possible choices. Further, while it makes a lot of sense that option 3 is conditional on the absence of vegetarianism, nothing in the text of option 4 seems to have anything to do with meat-eating or the lack thereof. Further, the nation which received option 4 along with option 3 is not vegetarian.

I suggest that option 3 is clearly conditional on meat-eating, but that option 4 is either unconditional, or conditional on some other policy or national attribute not related to meat-eating.


Yet the #1309 spoiler has been edited so that options 3 and 4 are shown as *3 and *4. This is not right. Another puppet of mine, Cain B A-LT v0, has now received #1309 with the same phenomenon of both option 3 and option 4 being present as possible choices. Option 3 should be spoiled as [3], NOT *3. I do not know if option 4 is always present or sometimes absent, but if it is sometimes absent, it must also be [4], not *4. I have this issue flagged, and if any puppet of mine gets the issue with option 4 absent, then there will be information which may allow speculation on what determines whether it is present or not (namely, the policies and history of the nation which gets it). Unless other recent posts I have missed establish that option 4 is sometimes absent, I don't think we have enough information to say whether [4] or just plain old 4 is more accurate for that option.

Since two nations have gotten both 3 and 4, it is not possible that 3 is conditional on meat-eating and 4 is conditional on meat-eating banned. That would make it impossible for both to show up at once, and that is unquestionably happening.

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Valentine Z
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Valentine Z » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:33 am

Yeah, I am still not very sure on that as of yesterday, so I will need to fix that accordingly come the next changelog. So I will leave 4 out for the time being, and change *3 to [3] in the next one.

There are also one or two things that I might have skipped, which is not out of malice and rather because I am uncertain.
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Rocain Founder
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rocain Founder » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:51 am

Option 4 of issue #72 is now shown as conditional on No Computers. But my puppet Cain G HiP Wea v0 just received this issue with option 4 present (and option 3 absent), and it does not have the No Computers policy. Option 3 is shown as Must Not Ban Computers. If this were correct, my puppet WOULD have received option 3, and it did not. I have no insight into what the conditions are for these two options, but the spoilers at present show conditions for both which are clearly wrong.

No malice suggested or implied.

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Valentine Z
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Valentine Z » Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:02 am

Rocain Founder wrote:Option 4 of issue #72 is now shown as conditional on No Computers. But my puppet Cain G HiP Wea v0 just received this issue with option 4 present (and option 3 absent), and it does not have the No Computers policy. Option 3 is shown as Must Not Ban Computers. If this were correct, my puppet WOULD have received option 3, and it did not. I have no insight into what the conditions are for these two options, but the spoilers at present show conditions for both which are clearly wrong.

No malice suggested or implied.

Yeah, I know, I didn't mean this at you - just a general point. ♥

If I skipped it, chances are good that I genuinely missed it, or I just don't know how to add it in without more info or clarity. ^^; They will still be eventually added.

Thanks for all of your work and help! It does make me wonder with you reporting for the old issues, is it a recent thing to add/modify/remove options for the older issues? It doesn't seem to be that much of a thing back in the previous reports, minus the italic/formatting changes. Not that I am complaining, of course!
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Rocain Founder
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Founded: Aug 01, 2020
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rocain Founder » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:29 pm

I suspect that there may be a campaign underway behind the scenes to fix up old issues that need work to take into account the complexities that all the Policies (including the ones that aren't immediately visible) have introduced. Or it could be that there is no more such activity now than before, but that previously, the community was not paying close attention to changes in the boring and familiar issues with numbers of only three digits.

But my issues game play is founded on the spoilers, and in particular on which options are optional and which are doppelgangers, and when the spoilers are wrong, it usually comes to my attention because my script crashes upon receiving a supposedly impossible set of options for an issue. So I have a strong impetus to report this kind of problem when it happens, which others active in this arena might not have. The flip side of that is that, because I only started this about a year ago and many of my nations are not nearly that old, I am very bad at finding new issues, because the game still has many more old issues to send my nations than new ones. I think in my year of activity I've only had the opportunity to report a single new issue.

As time has passed, I've taken steps to make my script report when it gets a TBD option, or one where I doubt the validity of the spoilers without having actually observed a problem. As I make my script more careful about noting possible problems, the frequency with which I report them also naturally goes up, even though in some cases, I find that something I suspected was a problem is in fact completely correct and not a problem. I am trying to take a good bit of care not to report things without hard evidence to back them up, even though I do still occasionally transpose digits in issue numbers and the like.

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Divine Cervine
Bureaucrat
 
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Founded: May 19, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Issue #1472: Home Is Where the Lung Is

Postby Divine Cervine » Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:26 pm

Here is the missing option 2 for issue #1472 Home Is Where the Lung Is [Osheiga; ed: USS Monitor]

The Issue

Recent studies have concluded that the indoor air quality in @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ buildings often reaches unhealthy levels, leading to decreased comfort and productivity across the nation. That explains why all your meetings this morning were interrupted by the sounds of your assistants sneezing and coughing throughout the office.

The Debate

1. "There's a simple solution to this!" declares @@RANDOMNAME@@, CEO of the trendy tech startup Vaporware LLC. "Our smart air purifiers will clean all those pesky particulates out of your homes and workplaces, and they even come with a bright LED display that glows one of 500 different colors to tell the user exactly what the machine's doing. Just sign here and my company will sell you enough air purifiers to put those bad boys in every building in @@NAME@@!"

2. “There’s a simple solution to this!” declares Konstantin McBoatface, your ambitious Minister of Flashy Technology. “We’ve been experimenting with smart air purifiers that will clean all those pesky particulates out of your homes and workplaces, and they even come with a bright LED display that glows one of 500 different shades of red to tell the user exactly what the machine’s doing. Just build us a new factory where we can mass-produce them, and we’ll put those bad boys in every building in @@NAME@@!”

3. "There's no need to blow through money like that," snuffles your runny-nosed Minister of Safety, still clutching the tissue box that @@HE/SHE@@ has been carrying all morning. "Many indoor air pollutants come from the organic compounds found in building materials, paint, and cleaning products. If we restrict the use of these chemicals, we'll tackle the root of the problem, and we won't have to worry about biting off more than we can a-a-CHEW!"

4. "This wouldn't be such a problem if people weren't spending all their time inside," rebuts lonely park ranger @@RANDOMNAME@@, who deserted @@HIS/HER@@ post to meet with you without anybody noticing. "If you invest in public parks, plazas, and hiking trails, I think you'll see more people enjoying the great outdoors and less people complaining about this whole indoor air quality thing, since they won't be exposed to it anymore! Well, not as much, anyway."

5. "New machines? New restrictions? You're all absolutely insane!" interrupts a disgruntled old man who you don't recall inviting to this meeting. "You know what we did back in my day when we wanted fresh air? That's right, open a goddang window! You should just mandate that every building open all their windows for two hours a day. Problem solved." The man then exits the room via the open window behind him.

Issue by Osheiga
Edited by USS Monitor
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Trotterdam
Postmaster-General
 
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Founded: Jan 12, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:36 pm

#1477's only name is confirmed random.

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USS Monitor
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 30747
Founded: Jul 01, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby USS Monitor » Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:52 pm

Divine Cervine wrote:2. “There’s a simple solution to this!” declares Konstantin McBoatface, your ambitious Minister of Flashy Technology. “We’ve been experimenting with smart air purifiers that will clean all those pesky particulates out of your homes and workplaces, and they even come with a bright LED display that glows one of 500 different shades of red to tell the user exactly what the machine’s doing. Just build us a new factory where we can mass-produce them, and we’ll put those bad boys in every building in @@NAME@@!”


FYI, this highlighting is basically illegible on dark theme.
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Founded: Nov 08, 2015
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Valentine Z » Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:13 pm

The text inside the highlighting can be forced to black or white if you use #000001 and #FFFFFE. Dark theme and Light theme has a habit of automatically formatting, but using these two codes will make sure they are always black, or white.

Like so!

2. “There’s a simple solution to this!” declares Konstantin McBoatface, your ambitious Minister of Flashy Technology. “We’ve been experimenting with smart air purifiers that will clean all those pesky particulates out of your homes and workplaces, and they even come with a bright LED display that glows one of 500 different shades of red to tell the user exactly what the machine’s doing. Just build us a new factory where we can mass-produce them, and we’ll put those bad boys in every building in @@NAME@@!”

I personally am fine with it because I simply copy-paste blocks of text into my local text editor, but yes, The More You Know and to help preserve the eyesights! :P

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On the note of formatting, please do keep an eye out and account for italics as well; they will not be preserved with an italics tag when you copy-paste into a forum post. Thanks! ^^
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SherpDaWerp
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Founded: Mar 02, 2016
Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby SherpDaWerp » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:36 am

#1478: Two Sides of a Coin [The Ankhalic Vaspriot; ed: Verdant Haven]

The Issue
Following the abolition of the nation's smallest denomination coin, the millions of unreleased pennies already minted with the next year's date were ordered to be melted down. Since then, a few of these pennies have periodically emerged in the collector market, where they command a tremendous price, having apparently been smuggled out of the mint by an unknown employee.

The Debate
1. "Unissued coins are government property, and the mere act of possessing them is a crime!" proclaims mint superintendent Nellie Deal, binder in hand. "Those coins should be seized for destruction in compliance with the original order, and the full force of law should be brought against everybody involved in this blatant criminal enterprise." Opening the binder to show a listing of auction records, she points to a particular sale. "I think I know where to start."

2. ???

3. Museum donor Isaiah Swift-Longboard makes his way to your desk, carrying a long box. "Seize the coins and prosecute the criminals, yes, but destroying the few remaining pennies would make no cents! These coins survived against the odds, and should be placed in museums alongside @@NAME@@'s other numismatic artifacts." He opens the box to reveal a dozen slight variants of a similar coin, encapsulated in plastic slabs and differing only by date. "Aren't they so interesting?"

4. "You can't just take these away!" howls shoe designer and coin collector Farouk Whiteman, clutching a penny in his hand. "A functionary at the local licensing office put an approval stamp on the auctioneer's filing paperwork, so that means the government approved the sale. I had no idea it was stolen!" Sliding a grainy photocopy of the alleged document across the table, he continues. "See this? If you go back on your word and seize it now, that would be like a second theft!"


I checked internal numbers, option 2 wasn't presented to me. Signs point to it being an in-edit doppelganger. "Whiteman" is similar to "Wittman", from the draft, but I suspect it might still be random. Interesting to see "@@name@@'s" making an appearance; it's fallen out of fashion recently.
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Jutsa
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Capitalizt

Postby Jutsa » Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:43 am

YEEERRSSS!!! No coins reversal! Rejoice! Well-deserved to be a contest winner :)
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Envoy
 
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Founded: Aug 01, 2020
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rocain Founder » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:02 am

My puppet Rocain Reaper has uncovered the never-spoiled option 2 of issue #1046. Here is the text:

“I can’t do it anymore!” gasps pharmacist Yui Morricone breathlessly, currently squashed up against the elevator doors. “I get that wearing clothing is illegal, but I can’t work like this anymore. I had a patient come in looking to get their eczema prescription compounded. Do you know what it was? Coal tar ointment. You ever compound with coal tar? If it gets on your skin, it doesn’t come out. I repeat, IT DOESN’T. COME. OUT. My friends haven’t hung out with me for MONTHS. Please just reverse the ban on clothing. PLEASE.” Morricone slides down against the doors and starts weeping.

I presume that "Yui Morricone" is another instance of @@RANDOMNAME-1@@. This option is clearly a doppleganger of option 1 for nations which have banned marriage. "My friends haven't hung out with me" replaces "My spouse made me sleep on the couch" in option 1.

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Bears Armed Broadcasting Corporation
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Founded: Sep 10, 2017
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed Broadcasting Corporation » Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:15 am

Just received #1479 _
Fares Fair?

The Issue
A recent audit of transit systems across @@NAME@@ revealed more cobwebs than coins in ticket vending machines, even though trains, buses, and ferries are as crowded as ever. Worried about rising numbers of fare evaders and the resulting decline in revenue, your Minister of Transportation urges you to take action — starting by going down into the local subway and seeing the problem for yourself.

The Debate
1. “The trains are barely running!” laments a subway driver, leaning out the window as the train releases a worrisome hiss. “I got stuck in the tunnel for an hour yesterday because of a faulty electrical line, but the higher-ups say there’s not enough money to fix it. To get transit budgets back on track, we need to raise ticket prices until we have enough to cover the full cost of keeping systems in operation. Sure, some people still won’t pay, but with the extra money from riders who do, this ol’ train could finally get a tune-up.”

2. “Like fares aren’t already a rip off!” yells a teenager who was just arrested for attempting to jump over a fare gate. “Transit should be free! Everyone has the right to get where they need to go — rich people, poor people, people like me who, uh... left their transit pass at home. You have some tax money lying around to cover free fares, right?”

3. “If you can’t pay the fare, don’t ride the train,” retorts police officer Kevin Pelosi as he handcuffs the teen. “What we really need is more cops on the system to make sure everyone pays. Not only will it ensure steady fare revenue, but the trains will be safer too. To stop scofflaws like this one, we’ve also gotta get new security cameras, impregnable fare gates, heftier fines for fare-evading, and — hey, get back here!”

4. “It’s not about the quantity of tickets you sell, but quality,” sneers Mr. Ron Opoly, a tycoon who owns all four railroads in a nearby coastal resort city. “It is only proper that the upper crust should travel in a manner befitting our wealth and status. My peers and I could be convinced to leave our limos if you added luxury train cars to subways, first-class reclining seats to buses, and private cabins to ferries. Those of us who like to travel in style will gladly pay more for a more refined transit experience, and our premium tickets will easily keep your budget afloat. The rest of the teeming masses can pack into steerage like they always have.”

Issue by The Protectorate of Paffnia
Edited by USS Monitor


I'm presuming that "Ron Opoloy", in the fourth option, is a fixed name.
This is 'as received', I forgot to check for hidden options.
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TalAkMaChen
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Democratic Socialists

Postby TalAkMaChen » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:37 pm

1463: has random names in option 2,3,4
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Valentine Z
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Valentine Z » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:27 pm

My own personal note to indicate that there is a small error in Issue 102.3 thanks to my careless copy-pasting (or Sublime adding quotes automatically):

worth it for a bit of fresh air and safe streets for the children?""
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Voxija
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Founded: Jan 17, 2019
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Voxija » Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:38 am

#1480: Motherlode

The Issue

Former child star ‘Jolly’ Jacquetta Cogan featured in 45 films between the ages of three and eleven years, earning a vast fortune. Jacquetta is now of age, and has made a shocking discovery: of her once-great wealth, there is now only a handful of kals left.

The Debate

1? “My money was stolen by my mother,” insists Jacquetta, not breaking into one of her trademark tap dances to turn that frown upside down. “When I was eleven, I had enough money to live well for the rest of my life. But my mother has since spent every kal on diamond jewellery, luxury holidays and a private island for her poodle. You have to ensure all earnings of a child performer are held in trust until the child is of age, and that any monies already spent for any reason are paid back.”

2. “Simply put, a parent has legal control of both offspring and finances ’til adulthood,” drawls Emily Cogan, lifting her wrist with difficulty to glance at her diamond-laden watch. “To interfere with that would disrupt the natural parent-child relationship, and teach a child to disrespect their parent’s choices. And, she forgets, I bought things for her, too. Fed her, even after directors wouldn’t cast her any more. I don’t ask for my money back. Anyway, she was only ever playing in front of a camera. Do children get paid for make-believe?”

3. A young girl runs up to you, holding a box of part-eaten cookies. “Wait! Parents using child actors like piggy-banks is just mean, but my family only eats this week if I get this Bicquick commercial – ‘my mummy says they’re scrummy in your tummy; now with honey’. I don’t want my family to starve ’til I’m a grown-up. Maybe our parents can just buy what they need to take good care of us, and your government can check they’re not buying silly things with our money and saving some for our futures. By the way, did I sound like a Bicquick Girl? I really hate them.”

Issue by The Petrifying Procrastinations of The Free Joy State

Edited by Candlewhisper Archive


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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:22 pm

#1478 Two Sides of a Coin

The Issue

Following the abolition of the nation's smallest denomination coin, the millions of unreleased pennies already minted with the next year's date were ordered to be melted down. Since then, a few of these pennies have periodically emerged in the collector market, where they command a tremendous price, having apparently been smuggled out of the mint by an unknown employee.

The Debate

2. "Unissued coins are government property, and the mere act of possessing them is a crime!" proclaims mint superintendent Nellie Deal, binder in hand. "Those coins should be seized for destruction in accordance with the original order, and the full force of law should be brought against everybody involved in this blatant criminal enterprise." She shuffles through the binder and withdraws an intelligence report detailing a black-market coin sale. "I think I know where to start."

3. Museum donor Isaiah Swift-Longboard makes his way to your desk, carrying a long box. "Seize the coins and prosecute the criminals, yes, but destroying the few remaining pennies would make no cents! These coins survived against the odds, and should be placed in museums alongside @@NAME@@'s other numismatic artifacts." He opens the box to reveal a dozen slight variants of a similar coin, encapsulated in plastic slabs and differing only by date. "Aren't they so interesting?"

5. "You can't just take these away!" howls shoe designer and coin collector Farouk Whiteman, clutching a penny in his hand. "An employee at the very real and definitely not shady place I got it showed me a government receipt with an approval stamp from the Deputy Secretary of Rationing's wife's brother's son who works in the local administrative office, so that means the government approved the sale. I had no idea it was stolen!" Sliding a grainy photocopy of the alleged document across the table, he continues. "See this? If you go back on your word and seize it now, that would be like a second theft!"

Issue by The Ankhalic Vaspriot
Edited by Verdant Haven
It looks like none of the names are random.

Validity for both 1/2 and 4/5 appears to be socialism, and in any case both pairs pretty obviously depend on the same validity.

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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:16 am

Voxija wrote:I don't know about the randomness of any of the names.

RL singer Alma Cogan's career was initially influenced by her mother, but it began in her teens rather than earlier and I don't recall reading about any complaints like this on her part (in her sister's memoirs about those days, at least one other biography, or album sleeve notes).
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Postby The Candy Of Bottles » Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:45 am

Bears Armed Broadcasting Corporation wrote:Just received #1479 _
Fares Fair?

The Issue
A recent audit of transit systems across @@NAME@@ revealed more cobwebs than coins in ticket vending machines, even though trains, buses, and ferries are as crowded as ever. Worried about rising numbers of fare evaders and the resulting decline in revenue, your Minister of Transportation urges you to take action — starting by going down into the local subway and seeing the problem for yourself.

The Debate
1. “The trains are barely running!” laments a subway driver, leaning out the window as the train releases a worrisome hiss. “I got stuck in the tunnel for an hour yesterday because of a faulty electrical line, but the higher-ups say there’s not enough money to fix it. To get transit budgets back on track, we need to raise ticket prices until we have enough to cover the full cost of keeping systems in operation. Sure, some people still won’t pay, but with the extra money from riders who do, this ol’ train could finally get a tune-up.”

2. “Like fares aren’t already a rip off!” yells a teenager who was just arrested for attempting to jump over a fare gate. “Transit should be free! Everyone has the right to get where they need to go — rich people, poor people, people like me who, uh... left their transit pass at home. You have some tax money lying around to cover free fares, right?”

3. “If you can’t pay the fare, don’t ride the train,” retorts police officer Kevin Pelosi as he handcuffs the teen. “What we really need is more cops on the system to make sure everyone pays. Not only will it ensure steady fare revenue, but the trains will be safer too. To stop scofflaws like this one, we’ve also gotta get new security cameras, impregnable fare gates, heftier fines for fare-evading, and — hey, get back here!”

4. “It’s not about the quantity of tickets you sell, but quality,” sneers Mr. Ron Opoly, a tycoon who owns all four railroads in a nearby coastal resort city. “It is only proper that the upper crust should travel in a manner befitting our wealth and status. My peers and I could be convinced to leave our limos if you added luxury train cars to subways, first-class reclining seats to buses, and private cabins to ferries. Those of us who like to travel in style will gladly pay more for a more refined transit experience, and our premium tickets will easily keep your budget afloat. The rest of the teeming masses can pack into steerage like they always have.”

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Edited by USS Monitor


I'm presuming that "Ron Opoloy", in the fourth option, is a fixed name.
This is 'as received', I forgot to check for hidden options.

No hidden options, barring an option 5, and the police officer is fully random, with the pronoun changing appropriately.
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Postby Eshialand » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:56 pm

Voxija wrote:
#1480: Motherlode

The Issue

Former child star ‘Jolly’ Jacquetta Cogan featured in 45 films between the ages of three and eleven years, earning a vast fortune. Jacquetta is now of age, and has made a shocking discovery: of her once-great wealth, there is now only a handful of kals left.

The Debate

1? “My money was stolen by my mother,” insists Jacquetta, not breaking into one of her trademark tap dances to turn that frown upside down. “When I was eleven, I had enough money to live well for the rest of my life. But my mother has since spent every kal on diamond jewellery, luxury holidays and a private island for her poodle. You have to ensure all earnings of a child performer are held in trust until the child is of age, and that any monies already spent for any reason are paid back.”

2. “Simply put, a parent has legal control of both offspring and finances ’til adulthood,” drawls Emily Cogan, lifting her wrist with difficulty to glance at her diamond-laden watch. “To interfere with that would disrupt the natural parent-child relationship, and teach a child to disrespect their parent’s choices. And, she forgets, I bought things for her, too. Fed her, even after directors wouldn’t cast her any more. I don’t ask for my money back. Anyway, she was only ever playing in front of a camera. Do children get paid for make-believe?”

3. A young girl runs up to you, holding a box of part-eaten cookies. “Wait! Parents using child actors like piggy-banks is just mean, but my family only eats this week if I get this Bicquick commercial – ‘my mummy says they’re scrummy in your tummy; now with honey’. I don’t want my family to starve ’til I’m a grown-up. Maybe our parents can just buy what they need to take good care of us, and your government can check they’re not buying silly things with our money and saving some for our futures. By the way, did I sound like a Bicquick Girl? I really hate them.”

Issue by The Petrifying Procrastinations of The Free Joy State

Edited by Candlewhisper Archive


I don't know about the randomness of any of the names.

Jacquetta Cogan is not a random name, it is a reference to Jackie Coogan. As for the mother's first name, that is random; I got Kate myself.
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Postby Minoa » Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:38 pm

Regarding the Issue #1348 listing:

All but Ziggy Stardust are random names.
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Postby Valentine Z » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:33 am

#1481: Livin’ on a Prayer [Sacara; ed: The Marsupial Illuminati]

The Issue
A church in @@CAPITAL@@ has been acting as a sanctuary for illegal immigrants in danger of being deported. This is because, in accordance with long-standing tradition, members of law enforcement avoid entering places of worship and arresting people while services are ongoing. The church is now on the twentieth day of a marathon service in an attempt to keep a family from facing immediate deportation.

The Debate
0. “This is nothing more than a blatant attempt to keep the laws of @@NAME@@ from being enforced,” sermonizes the Director of @@DEMONYM_ADJECTIVE@@ Border Enforcement, standing over a terrain model of the church and the surrounding area. “We cannot allow these rats to take advantage of our system. This dumb tradition should be scrapped. Just give me the word, and my people will storm the church and apprehend these illegals in a matter of minutes. We’ll also arrest all those who sheltered the family. No one should get away with aiding and abetting criminals, no matter how godly they think they are.”

1. “God will judge you harshly if you let these officers storm a sacred place, since he cares for the homeless, the tempest-tost,” pontificates a clergy member from the church at the crux of the matter. “For the government to forcibly enter our church, interrupt our service, and arrest church members is a violation of our religious freedom. Instead of doing something so evil, this poor family should be granted asylum for all the hardships @@NAME@@ has put them through. Make it easier for people like them to become residents of @@NAME@@.”

2. “Fire and brimstone!” preaches Elena Herod, your Minister for State Security. “These churchgoers need to be taught a lesson. The clergy claim they are following the will of their god by protecting this family, but how can they truly know unless they are able to ask? We can do them a favor and sure as hell send them to whatever higher power they believe in to get a definitive answer. Just imagine this: in a tragic accident, the church burns down, trapping everyone inside an unfortunate, fiery grave. We can pin it on one of those extremist groups.”

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Postby Philosica » Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:36 pm

I got Issue #1432 today. I chose the 2nd choice, which reminded me of the SCP Foundation because a mysterious creature was being captured and kept for study, which is pretty much what the SCP Foundation does. Therefore, I liked that option the Most Unexceptional because I am a big fan of SCP.

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