[ABANDONED] Vats the way (uh-huh, uh-huh) I like it

[Mabeleyabato]

Not too long ago I was confronted with the Can’t Get Enough of You Baby issue, and went with the option to allow for vat-grown babies, as an interesting way to help solve the crisis of an aging population through scientific and medical means, while avoiding forcing women to have to give birth, banning contraceptives or opening up my nation's borders. To my surprise, apparently ALLOWING for vat-grown babies is the same as MANDATING that every single new child born MUST be a vat-grown baby, and apparently it is the case now that "Biological reproduction is prohibited".

I have yet to find an issue that allows this rather extreme (and not altogether clear from the original issue) result to be revisited. As such I propose the following issue to allow this result to either be moderated (allowing for both vat-grown and biologically born children), doubled down on (cracking down on women who still try to give birth to biological babies), or completely and violently reversed (banning vat-grown babies, massacring those vat-grown babies who already exist, and going full Handmaid's Tale on women).

Please let me know what you think and what I can edit / clean up.

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Vats the way (uh-huh, uh-huh) I like it

Validity: Biological reproduction is prohibited.

After your government passed laws mandating that all new babies must be grown in vats while banning biological babies, some women started giving birth to biological babies in secret, often in dangerous illegal clinics operated at premium rates by opportunistic midwives.

Option 1: "I just want to be allowed to give birth to my own child" weeps aspiring mother @@RANDOMNAMEFEMALE1@@, rocking back in forward in distress. "I have no problem with vat-babies, I really don't, I just want to be able to give birth to my own little Shnookums. You wouldn't deny a woman this most natural of rights would you? Sure, there might be some tensions between biologically born kids and vat-grown kids down the line, but that is just the price of freedom."

(Effect: "yo mama so vat, she gives birth to millions of kids at the same time" is a common insult hurled at vat-growns by bio-borns)

Option 2: "Don't listen to this hysterical clown" scoffs successful businesswoman @@RANDOMNAMEFEMALE2@@, as she lays out a number of charts before you. "Since we've started vat-growing babies, we've seen a spike in the employment of women, the complete eradication of any need for maternity leave prior to the delivery of the product ... I mean child, and a sharp reduction in maternal deaths. The handful of women still giving birth illegally clearly just need to attend mandatory re-education camps on why vat-grown is the best and only way!"

(Effect: police track down pregnant women and send them to re-education camps)

Option 3: "Vat born babies? Re-education camps? Women working?!? How far we have fallen from the good old days!" preaches @@RANDOMNAMEFEMALE3@@, shaking her head in disgust. "For the sake of the nation mandate that all women must be mothers, that all babies are born rather than grown in a lab, and that those soulless vat-grown abominations are destroyed and sent back to the dark void from whence they came!"

(Effect: lacking a bellybutton is a death sentence)

[The Free Joy State]

Jeez, I hate to do this to a brand-new issuer.

But the concept of secret illegal childbirths and potentially allowing natural births alongside vat-produced infants has been covered by #1340.

EDIT: Do keep writing though.

[Mabeleyabato]

Jeez, I hate to do this to a brand-new issuer.

But the concept of secret illegal childbirths and potentially allowing natural births alongside vat-produced infants has been covered by #1340.

EDIT: Do keep writing though.

Is there space for two such issues on this, given that they take different approaches? As this issue providing a complete 180 option. The fact that issue #1340 hasn't cycled through to me yet might also suggest the value in having two different opt-outs to potentially receive at some stage.

If it is not possible then I do understand, and I'll just try out some different issues.

[Pogaria]

Jeez, I hate to do this to a brand-new issuer.

But the concept of secret illegal childbirths and potentially allowing natural births alongside vat-produced infants has been covered by #1340.

EDIT: Do keep writing though.

Is there space for two such issues on this, given that they take different approaches? As this issue providing a complete 180 option. The fact that issue #1340 hasn't cycled through to me yet might also suggest the value in having two different opt-outs to potentially receive at some stage.

If it is not possible then I do understand, and I'll just try out some different issues.

I would agree that the premise seems a bit too similar. However, there are plenty of other vat-themed dilemmas that we haven't covered yet. For example, what happens if you have vat-produced infants, but also have the policy where all children are released into the wild to grow up on their own?

[Trotterdam]

For example, what happens if you have vat-produced infants, but also have the policy where all children are released into the wild to grow up on their own?

That combination... actually makes a disturbing deal of sense.

When we said no parents, we meant no parents.

[Mabeleyabato]

For example, what happens if you have vat-produced infants, but also have the policy where all children are released into the wild to grow up on their own?

That combination... actually makes a disturbing deal of sense.

When we said no parents, we meant no parents.

Hmmm, that is interesting, I'll give it some thought. I do have another issue idea rolling around in my head about something else though, but both that one and an edited version of this one would be for a separate issue. I'll let this one die. Thanks for the feedback.

[Australian rePublic]

Option 1- Sure, there might be some tensions between biologically born kids and vat-grown kids down the line
Why?

[Mabeleyabato]

Option 1- Sure, there might be some tensions between biologically born kids and vat-grown kids down the line
Why?

Because people are arseholes. We've spent centuries oppressing one another over differences in skin pigmentation. I'm pretty sure humans being grown in vats would cause some political commentator to have something to say about how it defies God's will or is an attack on the family.

With that in mind, I am thinking of reapproaching the issue at some stage from a different angle, maybe from the perspective of the political clashes that may emerge between a growing vat-grown electorate, and the biologically old guard who feel bitter about being "replaced".