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Paris Saint-Germain
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[DRAFT]Bet On It

Postby Paris Saint-Germain » Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:39 am

Related to the recent cases of athletes engaging in sports betting and the ethical concerns it raises for participants within the industry. A player could theoretically place bets against their own team and thus they would be compelled to perform worse to have a better shot at winning their own bets (i.e., a goalie playing for a top team bet $100,000 on the underdogs and thus purposefully performs bad so his own team loses but he wins his bet).

Description: @@RANDOMMALENAME_1@@, a prominent @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ footballer, was indefinitely suspended by sporting authorities for placing thousands of sports bets, including those on his own team. He joins a growing list of @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ athletes implicated in sports betting activities, raising grave ethical concerns and conflicts of interest for those within the sports industry.

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[option]"Letting athletes place sports bets makes as much sense as letting politicians use the stock market," queries nosy investigative sports journalist @@RANDOMNAME_1@@ while scrutinizing your personal files. "Let's say a player has placed a bet against his own side. What's stopping them from playing terribly in an attempt to sabotage his own team while simultaneously benefitting financially if the bet succeeds? My investigations have exposed hundreds of players who collectively have placed millions of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ in sports bets. Even coaches, managers, referees, and backroom staff are actively involved in this grift! We need to ban anyone in the sports industry to engage in sports betting and promote fair play, decency, and sportsmanship."
[effect]athletes caught playing mobile games featuring slot machines are banned indefinitely

[option]"Come on, man! I didn't do anything wrong, and I certainly don't ever want to sabotage my own team," retorts @@RANDOMMALENAME_1@@ as he continues to place bets on BetKings. "I have committed over 20 years of hard work and torture into perfecting my craft and I'm being punished for having a little fun? My teammates and I love to play fantasy games and there's no harm in placing a fiver on an underdog willing his team to victory. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to double or nothing my current bets for a chance to win a million @@CURRENCY@@ prize!"
[effect]players often squander their entire multimillion @@CURRENCY@@ contracts on sports betting activities

[option]"Gambling is a sin, and the entire practice must be outlawed!" shouts @@RANDOMNAME_2@@, the head of anti-gambling group Concerned Citizens Against Gambling. "Every day, I hear stories of people gambling away their entire life savings in some shady casino, ruining the lives of themselves and their family. Let's call it like it is: gambling and betting is a plague infecting @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ minds. We must ban all casinos, punish the executives of this mob, and give people the help and support to rid them of this virus!"
[effect]the numbers 777 must never be grouped together

[option]"You know what, this issue has got me thinking," inquires @@RANDOMNAME_3@@, CEO of Augustus Sportsbook. "Sports is a form of entertainment. People watch it to have fun in their dull lives. Why don't we raise the stakes? Enable every athlete to receive free bets! Give promotions and incentives for people to sign up and bet on games! Allow children to bet their allowances on their favorite sports teams! It will be grand, and you can bet on my plans to succeed and take over @@NAME@@! All you have to do is give our industry more government support and a small deposit of a million @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@!"
[effect]it is impossible to tell whether or not a missed shot counts as genuine or an attempt to cover the spread
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:47 am

Option 4- Free bets? What?
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Postby Paris Saint-Germain » Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:05 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Option 4- Free bets? What?

Betting companies frequently run promos which give new users a certain amount of dollars of free bets. For example, if you sign up, you will receive $200 in free bets as a bonus.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:03 pm

Paris Saint-Germain wrote:A player could theoretically place bets against their own team... i.e., a goalie playing for a top team bet $100,000 on the underdogs and thus purposefully performs bad so his own team loses but he wins his bet

I must ask... on the off chance you do happen to make this particular theme more explicit in draft two instead of just talking about some generic footballer, would you consider "What Is @@RANDOMNAME@@'s Net Worth?" as a title? :lol:
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Postby Superpower Spain » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:14 pm

Was this issue funded by oil money too, PSG? :P

Jokes aside... the premise is nice, but could be improved. Perhaps you could have football coaches/managers fix matches, bet on those matches, and gain money that way. Players don't have as much of an impact nor are they as prestigious as the managers (generally speaking anyway). You can look into the 2011 Turkey match-fixing scandal if you want something to work off of (even though they were acquitted, the accusations could make for a nice framework).
Be careful though, there are a few football issues -- don't have them overlap!

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Postby Paris Saint-Germain » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:13 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Paris Saint-Germain wrote:A player could theoretically place bets against their own team... i.e., a goalie playing for a top team bet $100,000 on the underdogs and thus purposefully performs bad so his own team loses but he wins his bet

I must ask... on the off chance you do happen to make this particular theme more explicit in draft two instead of just talking about some generic footballer, would you consider "What Is @@RANDOMNAME@@'s Net Worth?" as a title? :lol:

I was taking a dip in the waters and see what theme or direction I could work with - considering how there were gambling scandals in the past that have tainted sports (the Black Sox scandal in 1919 when the White Sox threw away a World Series for bribes). I felt the focus on a generic athlete would be better since they were viewed as a regular Joe who happened to place a ton of bets (think Ivan Toney or the recent NFL crackdown on players who placed bets) and the issue would have an ethics perspective on who can engage in sports betting. While the general public can easily go on Betway or DraftKings and place a few bets here and there without much repercussion, those who play the game or engage in it directly doing so does constitute a conflict of interest. But yes, I would consider that title if I center it around a certain someone based on a big event instead of just it being about the ethics of sports betting.
Superpower Spain wrote:Was this issue funded by oil money too, PSG? :P

Jokes aside... the premise is nice, but could be improved. Perhaps you could have football coaches/managers fix matches, bet on those matches, and gain money that way. Players don't have as much of an impact nor are they as prestigious as the managers (generally speaking anyway). You can look into the 2011 Turkey match-fixing scandal if you want something to work off of (even though they were acquitted, the accusations could make for a nice framework).
Be careful though, there are a few football issues -- don't have them overlap!

I think the match fixing angle has been adequately covered in prior issues, so I decided to focus on the ethics of betting and mix it in with sports. Now, a referee caught rigging specific games to match his bets (underdog or favorites) would be a potentially interesting angle.
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Postby West Barack and East Obama » Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:41 am

I think a potentially interesting addition to the dilemma (rather than gambling bad, gambling good, gambling VERY bad and gambling VERY good) would be to consider betting on yourself in a positive way. The first option complains about players betting against themselves and sabotaging the match. What about betting on yourself to win, or score a goal? It could be considered an incentive to play better and not have thrown games, or argued against as still harmful as it may increase selfishness in play or just that gambling addictions are bad.
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Postby Paris Saint-Germain » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:08 am

West Barack and East Obama wrote:I think a potentially interesting addition to the dilemma (rather than gambling bad, gambling good, gambling VERY bad and gambling VERY good) would be to consider betting on yourself in a positive way. The first option complains about players betting against themselves and sabotaging the match. What about betting on yourself to win, or score a goal? It could be considered an incentive to play better and not have thrown games, or argued against as still harmful as it may increase selfishness in play or just that gambling addictions are bad.

That would indeed be an interesting angle. Allowing just athletes to engage in sports betting but only so that they are incentivized to place bets on themselves for performance-related reasons or on their own team but just so they could win and thus be extra motivated to do so. Like you mention how it could also be negative as the potential selfishness of star players could increase and then the spillover of that happens and so on.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:18 am

Paris Saint-Germain wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Option 4- Free bets? What?

Betting companies frequently run promos which give new users a certain amount of dollars of free bets. For example, if you sign up, you will receive $200 in free bets as a bonus.

That could actually work- if the betting agencies give free bets to the team that said player plays for, it will eliminate conflicts of interest and encourage the player to perform better. (And it could also cause also lead to a follow up issue where betting agencies give free bets in favour of the team they want to win in order to attempt to rig games in their favour). But all this requires better explanation
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